2021 Wooden Spoon

2021 Wooden Spoon

  • Adelaide Crows

    Votes: 113 12.9%
  • Brisbane Lions

    Votes: 2 0.2%
  • Carlton Blues

    Votes: 17 1.9%
  • Collingwood Magpies

    Votes: 20 2.3%
  • Essendon Bombers

    Votes: 131 14.9%
  • Fremantle Dockers

    Votes: 4 0.5%
  • Geelong Cats

    Votes: 6 0.7%
  • Gold Coast Suns

    Votes: 9 1.0%
  • GWS Giants

    Votes: 8 0.9%
  • Hawthorn Hawks

    Votes: 91 10.4%
  • Melbourne Demons

    Votes: 8 0.9%
  • North Melbourne Kangaroos

    Votes: 414 47.2%
  • Port Adelaide Power

    Votes: 3 0.3%
  • Richmond Tigers

    Votes: 20 2.3%
  • St Kilda Saints

    Votes: 1 0.1%
  • Sydney Swans

    Votes: 15 1.7%
  • West Coast Eagles

    Votes: 14 1.6%
  • Western Bulldogs

    Votes: 1 0.1%

  • Total voters
    877

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sydney_gws

Team Captain
Oct 31, 2016
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Hawthorn now $10. $18 a week ago
I think they won't finish last, but a very good bet for bottom 4. A worse list than any clubs in recent memory. Having won 3 flags in a row probably causes this ( a lack of picks and too much input in list management given to clarko)
 
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BJK#5

Norm Smith Medallist
Aug 9, 2017
8,454
27,041
AFL Club
Hawthorn
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Hurricanes, Panthers
I think they won't finish last, but a very good bet for bottom 4. A worse list than any clubs in recent memory. Having one 3 flags in a row probably causes this ( a lack of picks and too much input in list management given to clarko)
You may need to improve that memory if that is the case.
 

Bjchan13

Club Legend
Jul 23, 2018
2,320
2,193
AFL Club
Essendon
I think they won't finish last, but a very good bet for bottom 4. A worse list than any clubs in recent memory. Having one 3 flags in a row probably causes this ( a lack of picks and too much input in list management given to clarko)
I wouldn't think dead last either but $18 was silly. $10 is about right. If they lose to Essendon round 1 they'll go shorter again.
 

Bradkli

Norm Smith Medallist
Apr 11, 2012
5,364
3,184
AFL Club
Hawthorn
I wouldn't think dead last either but $18 was silly. $10 is about right. If they lose to Essendon round 1 they'll go shorter again.
We lose to Essendon round 1 and we are a lock to be 0-5 to start the season...after the bombers:

Tigers
Cats
Dockers in Perth
Demons

There’s at least 3 x 40+ point losses there.

Still think we win 6 games. North and crows will win 5 max
 

Gavin Excell

Hall of Famer
Apr 22, 2007
33,533
37,920
Bentleigh
AFL Club
Geelong
We lose to Essendon round 1 and we are a lock to be 0-5 to start the season...after the bombers:

Tigers
Cats
Dockers in Perth
Demons

There’s at least 3 x 40+ point losses there.

Still think we win 6 games. North and crows will win 5 max
Hawks can trouble Geelong and certainly can beat Melb
 

Bradkli

Norm Smith Medallist
Apr 11, 2012
5,364
3,184
AFL Club
Hawthorn
Hawks can trouble Geelong and certainly can beat Melb
Even if we had Sicily, Gunston & a fit Tom Mitchell , I would still back Geelong by 30 points.. neither Sicily or Gunston will be playing and Tom Mitchell will only be playing his first or second match after a limited pre-season..you will win by 40+. bookmark this.
 

benji2

Club Legend
May 19, 2011
2,004
1,679
Canberra
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Adelaide
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What odds the Demons having another horror even-numbered year? Hore out for the season, Brown and Weideman with injury issues already
 

Johnny Karate

Club Legend
Apr 13, 2015
1,496
3,983
AFL Club
Melbourne
What odds the Demons having another horror even-numbered year? Hore out for the season, Brown and Weideman with injury issues already
No team is ‘better’ at hitting rock bottom. However, I suspect there are at least 3-4 teams as sh*t/worse that will save our blushes.
 

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Yoda_

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May 6, 2007
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Essendon
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Tottenham Hotspurs, Melbourne Vixen
Reckon Essendon would be firming, with news that Stringer and Hurley would need to "make dramatic recoveries" from their respective issues (which are both somewhat indefinite) in order to be ready for R1.
Stringer possibly but Hurley hasn’t been a main guy for a while now.

Stringer could only miss a month which obviously sets us back but heading into Anzac Day (rd5) we could feasibly be 2 & 2 with games against Sydney and Hawthorn very plausible winning chances whilst Port and Saints should see us easily accounted for.


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Yoda_

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No team is ‘better’ at hitting rock bottom. However, I suspect there are at least 3-4 teams as sh*t/worse that will save our blushes.
It’s issues like the Brown & Weidemann one to Melbourne and the one we have to Stringer who both sides will struggle to replace (depth) that holds key for how high they can finish.


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HairyO

Brownlow Medallist
Jul 13, 2015
24,084
25,644
AFL Club
Hawthorn
I think they won't finish last, but a very good bet for bottom 4. A worse list than any clubs in recent memory. Having won 3 flags in a row probably causes this ( a lack of picks and too much input in list management given to clarko)
Sounds like we wont miss Graham Wright at all then !
 

Virgin Dog

Norm Smith Medallist
Oct 29, 2017
7,063
13,520
AFL Club
Western Bulldogs
Stringer possibly but Hurley hasn’t been a main guy for a while now.

Stringer could only miss a month which obviously sets us back but heading into Anzac Day (rd5) we could feasibly be 2 & 2 with games against Sydney and Hawthorn very plausible winning chances whilst Port and Saints should see us easily accounted for.


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I'm not picking Essendon for the spoon anyway, but genuine question - who replaces Hurley? I know he's a shell of his former self, but I was under the impression he's still a pretty vital component of your spine. I can't see who on your list steps in outside of a draftee/fringe player
 

eth-dog

Premium Platinum
Jan 11, 2007
92,280
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I'm not picking Essendon for the spoon anyway, but genuine question - who replaces Hurley? I know he's a shell of his former self, but I was under the impression he's still a pretty vital component of your spine. I can't see who on your list steps in outside of a draftee/fringe player
He was supposedly going to be playing forward, where he's no good anyway
 

Jcpdragonx

Brownlow Medallist
Sep 19, 2010
11,842
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Adelaide
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Adelaide
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Hawks list is the worst and its not close.

North have a reasonable midfield and defense, forward line is major issue in the short term.

Essendon's worst is literally the worst in the league but they generally have some good patches in seasons.
 

owen87

Norm Smith Medallist
Apr 23, 2016
9,306
11,863
AFL Club
Essendon
I'm not picking Essendon for the spoon anyway, but genuine question - who replaces Hurley? I know he's a shell of his former self, but I was under the impression he's still a pretty vital component of your spine. I can't see who on your list steps in outside of a draftee/fringe player
Hooker, he's apparently had his best preseason for years and is a few kg's lighter. I'm not sure Hurley & Hooker can play in the same backline anymore, so if there's only one of the two available that probably works out.
 

Milanista28

Brownlow Medallist
Dec 2, 2014
14,463
23,587
AFL Club
Essendon
Hawks list is the worst and its not close.

North have a reasonable midfield and defense, forward line is major issue in the short term.

Essendon's worst is literally the worst in the league but they generally have some good patches in seasons.
We gave up in games under Worsfold all the time and he always made excuses for the players and then let them all play the next week to respond, he would never drop players. Hopefully that changes going forward.
 

AnEmptyChair

Team Captain
Nov 12, 2020
377
1,331
AFL Club
North Melbourne
North have a reasonable midfield and defense, forward line is major issue in the short term.
Completely agree with you on this, mate. Our defence is our most experienced line, led by Tarrant and McDonald, with Corr, Atley, Ben McKay and now Ziebell. We lack a classy speedy half-back -- hopefully it ends up being Flynn Perez -- but otherwise it's quite solid.

I love the midfield that we're building with Simpkin and LDU in particular, but Cunnington, Anderson, Polec, Dumont, Scott, then youth in Phillips and Powell, and a few others means there's actually a bit of depth there too.

But you're right, the forward line is a real worry and I'm concerned about where the goals are coming from. With Ziebell earmarked for a defensive role, it's led by Larkey (22, 29 games, 40 goals), Zurhaar (22, 44 games, 48 goals) and Tarryn Thomas (20, 26 games, 19 goals), with other positions probably taken by the likes of Curtis Taylor (20, 11 games, 5 goals), Jack Mahony (19, 10 games) as well as solid pressure players but not noted goalkickers in Taylor Garner and Kayne Turner, while there might be the odd midfielder that plays there. EDIT: LOL completely forgot Stephenson here. He makes it look better, but is being talked about as a mid/forward for 2021.

The other factor that will determine if we are certs for the spoon will be the fitness of the experienced players, especially Cunnington, Tarrant, and Goldstein. Any combination of those three go down for a significant period of time and it will be tough to see us finish anywhere other than last simply because of how important they are and how little depth there is to replace them (maybe not so much Cunnington in that respect, but we really struggled without his presence in the midfield last year).
 
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the Ziebull

Brownlow Medallist
Nov 14, 2010
21,678
17,836
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North Melbourne
Hawks list is the worst and its not close.

North have a reasonable midfield and defense, forward line is major issue in the short term.

Essendon's worst is literally the worst in the league but they generally have some good patches in seasons.
I’ll back Zurhaar Larkey and stevo up front in the short term with Curtis Taylor and Tarryn buzzing around too to get a winning score (hopefully a fit garner also)
 

Engimal v3

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Sep 21, 2017
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North Melbourne
I’ll back Zurhaar Larkey and stevo up front in the short term with Curtis Taylor and Tarryn buzzing around too to get a winning score (hopefully a fit garner also)
Can Larkey perform as a #1 target though? Definitely a lot of unknowns regarding our forwardline. If everything somehow clicks up forward, I could see us finishing 9th-14th.
 

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