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Surely that is a piss take. I love giddy but 2nd team all nba? Come on.
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Surely that is a piss take. I love giddy but 2nd team all nba? Come on.
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You didn't notice they had picture of half a Steph Curry?
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Would have thought Banchero will win ROTY in a landslide myself
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The moment
Memphis
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Half a Steph is still top 5.
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Elmer_Judd
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Thought Quickley would win it but still Mal has been sensational all season for us and really invaluable in stretches/games without either or the Jays
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AD not getting a single vote for DPOY is surprising to me.
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He didnt play much though.
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The 2023 KIA MVP award is awarded to
Jöël Embiid credits his team mates for the award.
Congratulations Warsaw Drummer_19 samFFC Willo_ EMVP Riviat Sydney Kicker danielnajdek
Jöël Embiid credits his team mates for the award.
Congratulations Warsaw Drummer_19 samFFC Willo_ EMVP Riviat Sydney Kicker danielnajdek
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wonder if Ben sent a congrats message?
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Happy for JoJo, thoroughly deserved his MVP.
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I was originally of the opinion that any of Jokic, Joel or Giannis would be worthy winners, but a closer look at the team records for all three with and without their star players, paints an interesting picture.
The 76ers actually play better without Joel. The Bucks are still a winning side (just) without Giannis and the Nuggets are a losing side when Jokic doesn't play.
In fact, the Sixers just sealed a sweep of the Nets by beating them in game 4 without Joel, and have now beaten the Championship favourites, on their home court, in game 1 of their 2nd round matchup with the Celtics.
If it was really awarded to the MOST VALUABLE player, then Joel would come 3rd.
Anyway, can't change anything now, so congratulations to Joel on a great season.
The 76ers actually play better without Joel. The Bucks are still a winning side (just) without Giannis and the Nuggets are a losing side when Jokic doesn't play.
In fact, the Sixers just sealed a sweep of the Nets by beating them in game 4 without Joel, and have now beaten the Championship favourites, on their home court, in game 1 of their 2nd round matchup with the Celtics.
If it was really awarded to the MOST VALUABLE player, then Joel would come 3rd.
Anyway, can't change anything now, so congratulations to Joel on a great season.
The sample size of that is way too small to draw any meaningful conclusions, you also need to dive deeper. Some of those Jokic games at the end he was not the only player missing for the Nuggets so of course they are more likely to lose. Also who were those games against, how many above and below .500.
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Fair enough on the small sample size. I think it's large enough to draw some conclusions though. I haven't got the time to delve into it any deeper.
Given they have now beaten two playoff teams without him, including Boston in Boston, the evidence is still mounting in favour of the Sixers being a better team without him.
He's had a great season. I just don't think he's more valuable than the other two. It was a good race to the end though.
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GmSc MVP correct again
Embiid wasn't undeserving and I love how much it means to him, I just think Jokic had the edge.
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Post season is irrelevant to mvp discussion however.
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The Joker was robbed
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Jokic is clearly the most valuable player
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Yeah I thought Jokic was the MVP but voter fatigue meant he was never gonna win a third. Voter fatigue has kept plenty of MVP's from deserving guys like LeBron and MJ.
Like there is no way LeBron has only been the best player in the NBA 4 times in his near on 20 year career. Same for Jordan just 5 times.
It's all about the narrative though really rather than giving it to the best player.
Like there is no way LeBron has only been the best player in the NBA 4 times in his near on 20 year career. Same for Jordan just 5 times.
It's all about the narrative though really rather than giving it to the best player.
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