List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft Discussion

[Scorpus]

Our draft haul:

Pick 17 - Max Michalanney (matched F/S)
Pick 43 - Billy Dowling
Pick 50 - Hugh Bond

Rookie Pick 5 - Andrew McPherson

36

Andrew Mcpherson

Age

24

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(re-listed)
Rookie Pick 21 - Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

32

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(re-listed)

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I haven’t watched outside highlights but it does look a little meh.

Some good top end but from the mid teens it seems like mostly role player types. Maybe a few high risk high reward players

I don’t see it as that strong either

First 11 or 12 were standouts

After that even ish without too much back end depth

 

[Maddogmetro]

So you don’t know

You’ve formed your argument based on nothing that has emerged yet and might not even exist

Proper 4D chess

I can understand why you're upset. He's stolen your MO.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

I still struggle to work out the Suns getting rid of a good player and a high draft pick to the current premiers for nearly nothing but a bit of cap relief.

 

[LoBu]

i honestly think north have screwed up

should have kept horne and pick 1 to take cadman

sheezel looks like a sloppy pick to me given who they already have

Was thinking the same thing today.

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[Kane McGoodwin]

So now the only remaining question is whether we trade back in tomorrow for a player we value who slips in the draft.

Odds are we save our picks for next year's draft.

 

[kirky]

We'll see, I'm betting Adelaide will be his club of choice if he's not happy at the Saints...

Only problem is if Port have better picks than us - them sliding down the ladder and us going up the ladder.

 

[Mutineer]

You need a buyer in order to sell.

Olli Hotton is still on the board, he's more than a role player as is Coby Burgiel.

 

[Mutineer]

Only problem is if Port have better picks than us - them sliding down the ladder and us going up the ladder.

In 2 years time I'm not seeing it.

 

[latinoheat]

Yeah, I'm not getting the people saying Sydney bid to screw us. He went within the range he was expected to.

If a bid came in slightly later it makes very little difference to the late picks we get back.

We've done pretty well. Swapped out our '22 second rounder for North's '23 second rounder then got Michalanney, a first round rated prospect for junk picks.

Feels like he was bid on to buy time for Sydney to trade that pick out. The old SOS trick

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Only problem is if Port have better picks than us - them sliding down the ladder and us going up the ladder.

Irrelevant as player nominates the club irrespective of picks.

 

[George Kramer]

Anyone with an understanding of this, what was the impact of getting the bid on Max at 17 as compared to 25?

 

[Golumless]

Anyone with an understanding of this, what was the impact of getting the bid on Max at 17 as compared to 25?

Our 3rd pick gets pushed back a bit further in the draft order. Really, how much impact that has depends on how quickly clubs want to get out of this draft.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Anyone with an understanding of this, what was the impact of getting the bid on Max at 17 as compared to 25?

Pick 51 with no discount, so a later pick in the 50's.

So pick 54.

 

[Crow-eater]

Anyone with an understanding of this, what was the impact of getting the bid on Max at 17 as compared to 25?

The late pick we got back would be higher than the 69 we got. Probably around 60-65.

With Max being considered a first rounder, it keeps our options to trade future 1sts open with the 2 firsts in 4 years rule.

 

[Vooligan]

I’m a little confused, did we go into deficit by matching the pick?

So going into the draft we had:
Pick #46 - 331 points
Pick #56 - 194 points
Pick #59 - 158 points
Total = 683 points

Bid on MM at Pick #17 which is worth 1025 points

Father/Son rules gift a discount of 20% on points (not 100% sure if it’s 15% or 20% discount, google shows mixed answers)

20% off 1025 brings it down to 820

So are we in deficit by 137 points?

 

[Tex Danger]

I’m a little confused, did we go into deficit by matching the pick?

So going into the draft we had:
Pick #46 - 331 points
Pick #56 - 194 points
Pick #59 - 158 points
Total = 683 points

Bid on MM at Pick #17 which is worth 1025 points

Father/Son rules gift a discount of 20% on points (not 100% sure if it’s 15% or 20% discount, google shows mixed answers)

20% off 1025 brings it down to 820

So are we in deficit by 137 points?

Our picks came in during the draft due to other bids being matched by picks before them

 

[Sanders]

i honestly think sheezel is too slow for AFL

we shall see

Flat earthers genuinely believe the planet is flat

Their sincerity isn’t the issue

 

[dogs105]

That trade for the future second looks better and better

This guy nails it again

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I’m a little confused, did we go into deficit by matching the pick?

So going into the draft we had:
Pick #46 - 331 points
Pick #56 - 194 points
Pick #59 - 158 points
Total = 683 points

Bid on MM at Pick #17 which is worth 1025 points

Father/Son rules gift a discount of 20% on points (not 100% sure if it’s 15% or 20% discount, google shows mixed answers)

20% off 1025 brings it down to 820

So are we in deficit by 137 points?

No, we are not in deficit because our picks improved in value with Lions x2 matching bids.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Anyone with an understanding of this, what was the impact of getting the bid on Max at 17 as compared to 25?

Don’t think it has much, pick 11 or 12 might have required 2023 deficit which wouldn’t have been ideal

Given we might not use our last pick or possibly get the same player we were going to get anyway not sure it matters

 

[Crow-eater]

I’m a little confused, did we go into deficit by matching the pick?

So going into the draft we had:
Pick #46 - 331 points
Pick #56 - 194 points
Pick #59 - 158 points
Total = 683 points

Bid on MM at Pick #17 which is worth 1025 points

Father/Son rules gift a discount of 20% on points (not 100% sure if it’s 15% or 20% discount, google shows mixed answers)

20% off 1025 brings it down to 820

So are we in deficit by 137 points?

After the Ashcroft and Fletcher matching our picks came in to 43, 51, 54 = 857 points.

All good.

 

[Drewie11]

This guy nails it again

But Reid has no idea what he is doing and needs to be sacked immediately

 

[crow2crow]

Why? Why not use the seconds in the better draft?

its not better only at the very pointy end which we wont be at anyway

 

[Vooligan]

No, we are not in deficit because our picks improved in value with Lions x2 matching bids.

Thank you, I knew there must’ve been something I was missing.

 

[Mostyn]

its not better only at the very pointy end which we wont be at anyway

Next year is a much deeper draft.