List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft Discussion

[Scorpus]

Our draft haul:

Pick 17 - Max Michalanney (matched F/S)
Pick 43 - Billy Dowling
Pick 50 - Hugh Bond

Rookie Pick 5 - Andrew McPherson

36

Andrew Mcpherson

Age

24

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(re-listed)
Rookie Pick 21 - Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

32

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(re-listed)

 

[NTRabbit]

Underwhelming? A pretty reasonable job IMO.

5, 23, 40, 23/3, 23/4 into Rankine, Michalanney, Dowling, Bond, and 23/2 (north)

5 = Rankine
23, 40 into Michalanney and 23/2 (north)
23/3 and 23/4 into Dowling and Bond

Did we get a ruck? No
Did we get Philippou? No

But it looks more than acceptable.

We gave up almost all of the draft capital that comes with finishing a win out of the bottom 4 solving none of our chronic problems, and held onto never will be and past it players so strongly that we used up two rookie draft picks getting two of them back.

Underwhelming was charitable

 

[morris086]

So we let Verrall do his apprenticeship under the two best rucks in the last decade and then we bring him back in around 4 years right?

 

[Danger in Texas]

Broadbent didn't get drafted. Could be an option for a SSP pick.

Can't say I'm overly impressed by what I saw of Broadbent

Would probably look at Hudson O'Keeffe over him

 

[Redleg Crow]

So no one saw any value in James Rowe...

 

[Mostyn]

I'm frustrated that we didn't grab a developing tall defender, and that we don't have a bluechip midfield prospect coming through.

Hopefully Rachele can actually be that in the midfield, and hopefully Pedlar becomes something.

I struggle to summon any concern about not having a young ruck. There's way more important things to prioritise.

 

[GameofSloanes]

Or we couldn't get back into the draft this year. Verrall to the Dees - it's a long way back for him to get a game, you'd think he was at least 4 years before he'd be pushing for selection with Gawn and Grundy on the list.

He can learn from them the next year or 2 and we can pick him up later if he looks any good, as he'll be 3rd choice minimum there

 

[Mutineer]

So no one saw any value in James Rowe...

Yeah that bullshit that the Dogs had interest when they took 2 smalls Charlie Clarke and Harvey Gallagher that both have what Jimmy lacks...serious speed

 

[Thetrader15]

So no one saw any value in James Rowe...

All 18 list managers are hopeless.

 

[Scorpus]

So no one saw any value in James Rowe...

Very little interest in delisted players in the rookie draft

Gold Coast took Connor Blakely and Jake Stein. North Melbourne took Daniel Howe. That's it.

 

[George Kramer]

The other team in the same position us don't seem too dumb. Weren't they a kick away from the Grand Final 2 months ago?

It's not bullshit - you are extremely negative.

Let’s see if they go 8 years without drafting a ruck.

I’m negative when it’s warranted, which is a lot.

 

[Mutineer]

Maybe we just pinch Harry Boyd off Norwood in the mid season draft....Oh to see the melts from a couple of the redlegs boys on here would be well worth it...

 

[crow2crow]

I'm frustrated that we didn't grab a developing tall defender, and that we don't have a bluechip midfield prospect coming through.

Hopefully Rachele can actually be that in the midfield, and hopefully Pedlar becomes something.

I struggle to summon any concern about not having a young ruck. There's way more important things to prioritise.

clearly mcasey is going to be fine and be ready for round 1 and is in the afl best 22

anyway agree and same for developing ruck for me

this has been a fail

 

[WeeBlake]

With the draft all done, here's the drafts since 2007

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That’s horrible to look at. It’s also why we are no good. 12-16 drafts, should be the core of our side, but not much left at all.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

It doesn’t creep into absolutely every aspect of my posting, that’s just bullshit.

Do you know why I am raising the lack of a developing ruck right now? Because guess what, we’ve just had the draft!! Knock me down with a feather that I should raise the list imbalance when we’ve just drafted more mids.

What I really should be posting about now is how good Sloaneys hair looks.

But as a club we have made many poor decisions and this is IMO is another example of one, my evidence? We are only one of 2 clubs without a ruck under 25 years old, but maybe we are the smart ones.

There’s no guarantee what we’ve done will turn out worse than if we had of drafted a ruck onto rookie list

I still got frustrated but that’s more about me thinking Verall could be something , maybe they think differbetly after meeting him or concerned re his injuries

Maybe they don’t want U18 rucks on their list at all , maybe the mid season draft has changed things

Only they have their reasons

 

[George Kramer]

All 18 list managers are hopeless.

Imagine being the club that used 2 picks on him

 

[LoBu]

Well so that makes it us and Collingwood without a ruck under 25

Why do you keep saying this, we have Thilthore and Himmelberg.

Himmelberg complete break in emergency, but we still have him - good enough in a rebuild year when we won't make finals.

Besides that, we have 3-4 years in ROB and Strachan.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Why do you keep saying this, we have Thilthore and Himmelberg.

Himmelberg complete break in emergency, but we still have him - good enough in a rebuild year when we won't make finals.

Besides that, we have 3-4 years in ROB and Strachan.

Really Thilthorpe should be a break-in-case-of-emergency too, forward development needs to be a priority with him as much as possible. Shouldn't struggle if put in the ruck, though

 

[NTRabbit]

With the draft all done, here's the drafts since 2007

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[BRL121]

Or we couldn't get back into the draft this year. Verrall to the Dees - it's a long way back for him to get a game, you'd think he was at least 4 years before he'd be pushing for selection with Gawn and Grundy on the list.

Perfect time to get him back here if he's any good.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Why do you keep saying this, we have Thilthore and Himmelberg.

Himmelberg complete break in emergency, but we still have him - good enough in a rebuild year when we won't make finals.

Besides that, we have 3-4 years in ROB and Strachan.

It wouldn’t surprise me if we end up playing Thilthorpe and Himmelberg as our ruck / forwards

I’m probably not as down on Himmelberg as some and rate TT’s potential in ruck

Still annoyed re Verrall though

 

[George Kramer]

There’s no guarantee what we’ve done will turn out worse than if we had of drafted a ruck onto rookie list

I still got frustrated but that’s more about me thinking Verall could be something , maybe they think differbetly after meeting him or concerned re his injuries

Maybe they don’t want U18 rucks on their list at all , maybe the mid season draft has changed things

Only they have their reasons

There is no guarantee with any player we draft, but we haven’t drafted one rookie ruck since 2014!! Which ended up being our lead ruck!!

I just don’t understand the logic in ignoring an area of your list.

As for trading one in, what’s easier? Drafting one or trying to convince one to come and then having to trade for one?

Look I have harped on about this long enough, it was an observation I’ve made that I’ve had to argue over and over.

I and 16 of the other clubs are wrong about the value of having a young ruck on the list and those defending this list management on here plus Hamish/Reid are correct.

 

[jackster83]

If we'd been able to offload Crouch onto someone and been able to grab a ruck/KPD with that last list spot, we'd look a lot more balanced.

 

[Josh Jenkins #1Fan]

Maybe we just pinch Harry Boyd off Norwood in the mid season draft....Oh to see the melts from a couple of the redlegs boys on here would be well worth it...

We will grab south’s premiership ruckman oh wait!!!

 

[George Kramer]

We will grab south’s premiership ruckman oh wait!!!

Whack

 

[AFC979810]

All 18 list managers are hopeless.

Wait until he gets picked up in the midseason draft by Melbourne and kicks 3 in a grand final win.

Oh boy oh boy will we hear about it then.