List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft Discussion

[Scorpus]

Our draft haul:

Pick 17 - Max Michalanney (matched F/S)
Pick 43 - Billy Dowling
Pick 50 - Hugh Bond

Rookie Pick 5 - Andrew McPherson

36

Andrew Mcpherson

Age

26

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(re-listed)
Rookie Pick 21 - Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

33

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(re-listed)

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Nearly as big a pipe dream as bringing in all of Rankine, Phillipou, Keeler and Michalanney?

We don't even know if our recruiting team rate those 3 draftees...you do realise the recruiting team will no doubt have cast their net Australia wide assessing the available talent.?

Rankine we know is on his way, Philippou seems like a no-brainer considering we've already, and i can't say this enough, publicly come out and said that a big bodied mid is what we're looking for. Keeler is a specific need in terms of having another developing ruck on the list and Michalanney could be the first decent F/S prospect. I know that you get your jollies from being constantly contrarian, but none of the above is a stretch of the imagination.

Rankine future 1st
Philippou 2022 1st
Keeler - Pick 15-25
Michalanney - Pick 25-30 (but will esentially be points value as F/S)

We certainly have the picks for these, in what would be an excellent draft outcome.

 

[Mutineer]

Rankine we know is on his way, Philippou seems like a no-brainer considering we've already, and i can't say this enough, publicly come out and said that a big bodied mid is what we're looking for. Keeler is a specific need in terms of having another developing ruck on the list and Michalanney could be the first decent F/S prospect. I know that you get your jollies from being constantly contrarian, but none of the above is a stretch of the imagination.

Rankine future 1st
Philippou 2022 1st
Keeler - Pick 15-25
Michalanney - Pick 25-30 (but will esentially be points value as F/S)

We certainly have the picks for these, in what would be an excellent draft outcome.

A lot of WeedsMullet assunptions here, unless you're privy to Hamish and his crew's draft board.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

A lot of WeedsMullet assunptions here, unless you're privy to Hamish and his crew's draft board.

It's the 2022 AFL Draft Discussion thread, the whole thing is full of guesswork and assumptions.

 

[Dangerousfield]

Rankine we know is on his way, Philippou seems like a no-brainer considering we've already, and i can't say this enough, publicly come out and said that a big bodied mid is what we're looking for. Keeler is a specific need in terms of having another developing ruck on the list and Michalanney could be the first decent F/S prospect. I know that you get your jollies from being constantly contrarian, but none of the above is a stretch of the imagination.

Rankine future 1st
Philippou 2022 1st
Keeler - Pick 15-25
Michalanney - Pick 25-30 (but will esentially be points value as F/S)

We certainly have the picks for these, in what would be an excellent draft outcome.

Rankine future first - maybe

Philipou with pick 6 looks a no brainer to me if we still hold it, exactly what we need and an SA boy, that we take him a bit earlier, who cares

I'm ok up until you have Keeler pick 15-25. We currently hold pick 23 which could be pushed out, by up to three F/S matchings and Norf PP, to 27. We can only select Keeler if he's not bid on before that pick we hold. We won't have a pick 15-25

There's also a possibility Max gets a bid before our second pick in which case it gets burned matching. Remember clubs can no longer just use a heap of picks in the 50's and 60's (the type we might accumulate for low value trades) to accumulate the points to match higher bids as for every pick you use to amass those points, you have to have a senior list vacancy which currently we don't, but hopefully do.

So I reckon we won't be able to get both Keeler and Michalanney except for the slim chance the cards fall our way, fingers crossed

 

[Mutineer]

Rankine future first - maybe

Philipou with pick 6 looks a no brainer to me if we still hold it, exactly what we need and an SA boy, that we take him a bit earlier, who cares

I'm ok up until you have Keeler pick 15-25. We currently hold pick 23 which could be pushed out, by up to three F/S matchings and Norf PP, to 27. We can only select Keeler if he's not bid on before that pick we hold. We won't have a pick 15-25

There's also a possibility Max gets a bid before our second pick in which case it gets burned matching. Remember clubs can no longer just use a heap of picks in the 50's and 60's (the type we might accumulate for low value trades) to accumulate the points to match higher bids as for every pick you use to amass those points, you have to have a senior list vacancy which currently we don't, but hopefully do.

So I reckon we won't be able to get both Keeler and Michalanney except for the slim chance the cards fall our way, fingers crossed

If Max gets a bid before our 2nd we will likely pass on him IMO.

 

[Jirkago75]

???..

Trade Pick 5 and our 2023 2nd for pick 7 this year?..

On what planet is that even close to a good deal?.

“Here Gold Coast move up two spots in the draft and we’ll pay you to do so!”..

Sorry I meant for Rankine

 

[Bearded Clam]

If Max gets a bid before our 2nd we will likely pass on him IMO.

Why?…

Our second pick could end up being a pick in the 40’s or 50’s that we’ve been given for frampton, Rowie or Crouch..

If we use our actual second pick (23) in a trade..

 

[Mutineer]

Why?…

Our second pick could end up being a pick in the 40’s or 50’s that we’ve been given for frampton, Rowie or Crouch..

If we use our actual second pick (23) in a trade..

Maybe because our recruiting team will have fully assessed his talent base and where they see his place in our draft order talent wise..

They won't be as fixated on the SA players and F/S romance like some on this board when assessing talent..

We saw how the SA talent stacked up at the Nationals might be a clue remembering the SA boys didn't miss a total year of football in their development like the Vic lads.?

 

[Crows I Am]

Why do that when we can bring in Rankine, Philippou, Keeler and MM this year, by trading our future 1st.

Why do people keep looking past what our actual recruitment team have publicly told us?

Waiting on JHF is an absolute pipe dream, and even in the remote chance he does opt to leave North next year there's no guarantee it's to us, and we'd be just as well to use our 2024 1st as part of a deal anyway.

We have plenty of developing youngsters already on our list, we really don't need to heavily invest in the draft anymore aside from a few players each year or the occasional Hamish special.

I agree with all of this, ending up with Rankine and the players you have mentioned would be the dream scenario for me. That basically addresses all of our biggest needs in 1 hit.

 

[Crows I Am]

Rankine future first - maybe

Philipou with pick 6 looks a no brainer to me if we still hold it, exactly what we need and an SA boy, that we take him a bit earlier, who cares

I'm ok up until you have Keeler pick 15-25. We currently hold pick 23 which could be pushed out, by up to three F/S matchings and Norf PP, to 27. We can only select Keeler if he's not bid on before that pick we hold. We won't have a pick 15-25

There's also a possibility Max gets a bid before our second pick in which case it gets burned matching. Remember clubs can no longer just use a heap of picks in the 50's and 60's (the type we might accumulate for low value trades) to accumulate the points to match higher bids as for every pick you use to amass those points, you have to have a senior list vacancy which currently we don't, but hopefully do.

So I reckon we won't be able to get both Keeler and Michalanney except for the slim chance the cards fall our way, fingers crossed

You are right that our 2nd will be pushed out due to F/S selections, but that shouldn't really be taken into account when looking at what range Keeler will be selected. The Father son kids are not really available to the other teams anyway unless one of the teams pass them up. So even though our pick gets pushed out, we will still have the same pool of players to chose from at 27 that we did at 23.

But in saying all that he could easily be taken before that pick anyway

 

[Crows#1]

You need to get some new material mate, that has to be the most overstated fallacy on this board and by a fair margin...

Not really, given how much focus was on Rachele's family and background whrn he was drafted.

 

[whattagun07]

What’s the latest talk on Billy Dowling?

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Rankine future first - maybe

Philipou with pick 6 looks a no brainer to me if we still hold it, exactly what we need and an SA boy, that we take him a bit earlier, who cares

I'm ok up until you have Keeler pick 15-25. We currently hold pick 23 which could be pushed out, by up to three F/S matchings and Norf PP, to 27. We can only select Keeler if he's not bid on before that pick we hold. We won't have a pick 15-25

There's also a possibility Max gets a bid before our second pick in which case it gets burned matching. Remember clubs can no longer just use a heap of picks in the 50's and 60's (the type we might accumulate for low value trades) to accumulate the points to match higher bids as for every pick you use to amass those points, you have to have a senior list vacancy which currently we don't, but hopefully do.

So I reckon we won't be able to get both Keeler and Michalanney except for the slim chance the cards fall our way, fingers crossed

Mutineer Dangerousfield yep i'll put my hand up and say i got that wrong my apologies, i thought it was only a 4th rounder we didn't have this year, i didn't realise we also don't have a 3rd.

Makes things pretty squeezy even with anticipated departures. Let's hope the recruitment team is getting real creative...

 

[Brett Cummings]

You should email the club with this strategy

Yeah because their strategies have worked so well in the past. St kilda laughed at us. Should of traded b crouch when he won the bnf a year earlier but they were too stubborn.

 

[StonesThrow]

Yeah because their strategies have worked so well in the past. St kilda laughed at us. Should of traded b crouch when he won the bnf a year earlier but they were too stubborn.

 

[Thetrader15]

Yeah because their strategies have worked so well in the past. St kilda laughed at us. Should of traded b crouch when he won the bnf a year earlier but they were too stubborn.

Who should we trade this year? Dawson would get us a good pick, maybe we can bundle Dawson and Laird to North for pick 1.

 

[Brett Cummings]

Who should we trade this year? Dawson would get us a good pick, maybe we can bundle Dawson and Laird to North for pick 1.

They gotta find a way to get both rankine and phillipou to the club. Phillipou is the big bodied bontempelli mid we need. You don't give him up for rankine.

 

[morris086]

They gotta find a way to get both rankine and phillipou to the club. Phillipou is the big bodied bontempelli mid we need. You don't give him up for rankine.

Hes 'potentially' a Bont type

 

[Danger_zone]

Hes 'potentially' a Bont type

The only Bont type is Bonteempelli !

 

[Mego Red]

Not really, given how much focus was on Rachele's family and background whrn he was drafted.

There's one fluff piece about how his family are good country stock - but they sounded pretty normal.

Who cares?

Are you suggesting we should only be recruiting the children of smack heads?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

This is the hardest aspect of Drafting .....not who has the talent, but who has the work effort to improve ....to be consistent

Can Keeler become consistent at AFL Level ......Adam Goodes was at #26 in his Draft Year, due to similar concerns of a lackadaisical behaviour

 

[Mutineer]

This is the hardest aspect of Drafting .....not who has the talent, but who has the work effort to improve ....to be consistent

Can Keeler become consistent at AFL Level ......Adam Goodes was at #26 in his Draft Year, due to similar concerns of a lackadaisical behaviour

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All I can say is those clubs must have been watching with blindfolds on..

 

[crow2crow]

All I can say is those clubs must have been watching with blindfolds on..

im all in on keeler are you saying thats right or wrong?

 

[Mutineer]

im all in on keeler are you saying thats right or wrong?

Caleb Serong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[eDPS]

All I can say is those clubs must have been watching with blindfolds on..

And also disregarded his 21.1 yo-yo test and a 6.24 in the KM which is not elite but very decent.