List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft Discussion

[Scorpus]

Our draft haul:

Pick 17 - Max Michalanney (matched F/S)
Pick 43 - Billy Dowling
Pick 50 - Hugh Bond

Rookie Pick 5 - Andrew McPherson

36

Andrew Mcpherson

Age

26

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(re-listed)
Rookie Pick 21 - Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

33

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(re-listed)

 

[jbanger]

2km TT, 20m sprint, standing vertical jump, agility test etc. It's all p!ss and wind. Can they actually football? Like kick the ball? Makes me laugh watching games when the commentators validate some spud who can't kick to save his life with useless draft combine stats.

 

[Mutineer]

2km TT, 20m sprint, standing vertical jump, agility test etc. It's all p!ss and wind. Can they actually football? Like kick the ball? Makes me laugh watching games when the commentators validate some spud who can't kick to save his life with useless draft combine stats.

If it's all piss and wind why are the recruiters hanging off the rafters watching and taking notes?

Of course being able to football is more important but there's not a whole lot of poor athletes running around in the AFL nowadays especially of late with the emphasis placed on speed and how the game has sped up. Also a lot of emphasis on endurance, much more than in the past.

 

[spenze]

Mutineer what's Barnett like and where do you expect his draft position?

Had a segment on him in the News tonight

 

[Mutineer]

Mutineer what's Barnett like and where do you expect his draft position?

Had a segment on him in the News tonight

Before our 2nd.

 

[Slippery Pete]

2km TT, 20m sprint, standing vertical jump, agility test etc. It's all p!ss and wind. Can they actually football? Like kick the ball? Makes me laugh watching games when the commentators validate some spud who can't kick to save his life with useless draft combine stats.

The number of players who come into the system not being able to kick and handball on both sides of their body is f*cking staggering.

 

[Mutineer]

The number of players who come into the system not being able to kick and handball on both sides of their body is f*cking staggering.

Most of them can it's just that a lot can't execute on their non preferred leg under pressure.

Jordan Dawson is elite on his preferred but very very ordinary on his non preferred as we've seen a couple of times.

 

[ams4crows]

Before our 2nd.

As in before 23? Or before 80odd

 

[Mutineer]

As in before 23? Or before 80odd

Our 2nd is 23...

 

[Danger in Texas]

Barnett's a funny one. I would grab him at 23 (FWIW I think he'd be there at that pick), but it might be better business to try and grab a player like Magor (185cm mid/forward with power and v. good marking ability) or Burgiel (183cm mid with speed, solid contested game and versatility in all parts of the ground), and look at a Verrall or Knobel, if available as a rookie

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

23 and Michalaney are likely to be our only live selections

What are the chances Verrall actually gets to the rookie draft?

I’d feel uncomfortable taking a ruck in the top 15, but 23 is probably about right if you want one of the more athletic types.

If we didn’t take Barnett we’d have to be confident one will be available in the rookie draft because we desperately need one imo.

 

[Mutineer]

 

[fuic08]

The number of players who come into the system not being able to kick and handball on both sides of their body is f*cking staggering.

It's crazy they don't get taught to handball on the non preferred. I played in a bush league and our whole under 17s team got it drummed in.

I guess it isn't as important now that its basically ok to throw it across your body.

 

[Crow_68]

The number of players who come into the system not being able to kick and handball on both sides of their body is f*cking staggering.

Pretty clear we targeted dual-sided players in last years draft. Have a look at Soligo’s and Taylor’s draft videos - hard to know which is their preferred foot.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Do you think we should grab one of the two?

Could Verrall slip to the rookie draft?

I would be happy with either of them, but I do think it's important that we do get one of them.

I wouldn’t want to use a pick in 20s on Barnett

I still doubt he goes that early

I like Verrall

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Barnett's a funny one. I would grab him at 23 (FWIW I think he'd be there at that pick), but it might be better business to try and grab a player like Magor (185cm mid/forward with power and v. good marking ability) or Burgiel (183cm mid with speed, solid contested game and versatility in all parts of the ground), and look at a Verrall or Knobel, if available as a rookie

I like Burgiel out of those , we could do with a > 186 though

Burgiel has good speed and kick though

 

[Mutineer]

Top 3 in every test at the National Combine today...

2km time trial​

Oliver Hollands (Murray Bushrangers) – 5:54 minutes
Jason Gillbee (Bendigo Pioneers) – 5:54
Jaxon Binns (Dandenong Stingrays) – 6:00

20m sprint​

Edward Allan (Claremont) – 2.81 seconds
Toby McMullin (Sandringham Dragons) – 2.880
Coby Burgiel (Gippsland Power) – 2.883

Agility​

Darcy Jones (Swan Districts) – 7.70 seconds
Jaxon Binns (Dandenong Stingrays) – 8.18
Elijah Hewett (Swan Districts) – 8.21

Vertical jump​

Darcy Jones (Swan Districts) – 75cm
James Van Es (Greater Western Victoria Rebels) – 75
Jack O'Sullivan (Oakleigh Chargers) – 71

Running vertical jump​

James Van Es (Greater Western Victoria Rebels) – 98cm
Aaron Cadman (Greater Western Victoria Rebels) – 93
Will Verrall (South Adelaide) – 90
Josh Weddle (Oakleigh Chargers) – 90

 

[Danger in Texas]

I like Burgiel out of those , we could do with a > 186 though

Burgiel has good speed and kick though

The only 186+ that you might get around that mark are D'Aloia and Szybkowski, neither of which are what we really need

Reckon Ginbey will be gone, I reckon that's who WCE wants to trade down for (him and Hewett)

 

[rabidcrow]

The only 186+ that you might get around that mark are D'Aloia and Szybkowski, neither of which are what we really need

Reckon Ginbey will be gone, I reckon that's who WCE wants to trade down for (him and Hewett)

Any chance Brayden George gets through due to his knee?


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[Danger in Texas]

Any chance Brayden George gets through due to his knee?


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It's a possibility. He's a heck of a talent (speed, power, goal nous etc), but most of his exposed form is up forward, so he might slide a bit

 

[Danger Zone]

The only 186+ that you might get around that mark are D'Aloia and Szybkowski, neither of which are what we really need

Reckon Ginbey will be gone, I reckon that's who WCE wants to trade down for (him and Hewett)

Wouldn't be surprised to see D'Aloia become this years Jack Graham. Seems like a similar player and maybe slips lower than he should for the same reasons.

 

[dogs105]

Like the idea of drafting Verrall, just because it would be exciting to watch a ruckman jump at centre bounces

 

[DJ75]

Like the idea of drafting Verrall, just because it would be exciting to watch a ruckman jump at centre bounces

Is that allowed?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

The only 186+ that you might get around that mark are D'Aloia and Szybkowski, neither of which are what we really need

Reckon Ginbey will be gone, I reckon that's who WCE wants to trade down for (him and Hewett)

Spot on , Dowling even suits more than those 2 even though I don’t like his kick

 

[Thetrader15]

Most of them can it's just that a lot can't execute on their non preferred leg under pressure.

Jordan Dawson is elite on his preferred but very very ordinary on his non preferred as we've seen a couple of times.

Bit of a crows thing that. Laird, Sloane, Crouch, Smith, Seedsman, Keays

 

[Bayno82]

So whose the consensus to select at pick 23? How far could Phillipou slide ? Could we try to get back into the early teens and grab him if that happens?