List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft Discussion

[Scorpus]

Our draft haul:

Pick 17 - Max Michalanney (matched F/S)
Pick 43 - Billy Dowling
Pick 50 - Hugh Bond

Rookie Pick 5 - Andrew McPherson

36

Andrew Mcpherson

Age

26

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(re-listed)
Rookie Pick 21 - Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

33

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(re-listed)

 

[Mutineer]

Is the young guns game on TV tomorrow or being streamed anywhere?

Live Stream on the AFL website or on the AFL App I believe...

 

[WheresGroomgone]

I'm a Verrall man personally.....Barnett will go fairly early, possibly before our 2nd whereas Verrall with his compromised preseason due to groin issues didn't really get up to full rat power until late in the season and therefore only played the last Nationals game where he had limited exposure. After that he absolutely dominated the local rucks with his leap and follow up work. Not keen on taking Rucks that early unless they're absolutely dominant against their peers at the Nationals, Barnett was good but not dominant.

Knobel playing in today's game another worth a look later in the draft/rookie draft.

so how would you order your preference from Verrall, Barnett and Keeler?

Keeler has 'potential' but seems very inconsistent, thoughts?

 

[bigman]

Live Stream on the AFL website or on the AFL App I believe...

thanks Bicks

 

[Mutineer]

so how would you order your preference from Verrall, Barnett and Keeler?

Keeler has 'potential' but seems very inconsistent, thoughts?

Keeler I don't see as anymore than a chop out ruck, he's best suited as a Forward IMO.

Barnett could very well go 1st round so Verrall later or even perhaps as a rookie would be the way I'd go.

 

[Mego Red]

Keeler I don't see as anymore than a chop out ruck, he's best suited as a Forward IMO.

Barnett could very well go 1st round so Verrall later or even perhaps as a rookie would be the way I'd go.

If we end up with two picks in the early 20s, I don't hate the idea of Kobe Ryan and whatever ruck we think is best at 25.

 

[Mutineer]

thanks Bicks

The game will be broadcast live and free on AFL.com.au, with the first bounce to take place at 9:35am.

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TEAM MURPHY​

#	NAME	SURNAME	STATE	STATE LEAGUE CLUB	COMMUNITY CLUB
1	Jake	Rogers	QLD	Gold Coast Suns Academy	Broadbeach
2	Caiden	Cleary	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Sydney University
3	Kynan	Brown	VIC M	Oakleigh Chargers	Blackburn
5	Harvey	Thomas	NSW/ACT	GWS Academy	Turvey Park
6	Lachlan	Cabor	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Shellharbour Swans
7	Cooper	Simpson	VIC C	Dandenong Stingrays	Mt Martha
8	Riley	Hardeman	WA	Swan Districts	Caversham
9	Orlando	Turner	NT	Norwood	South Alice Springs
10	Zane	Duursma	VIC C	Gippsland Power	Foster
11	Ben	Ridgway	SA	Glenelg	Brighton Districts & Old Scholars
12	Ryley	Sanders	TAS	Sandringham Dragons	North Launceston
15	Will	Patton	SA	West Adelaide	Mitcham
16	Arie	Schoenmaker	TAS	Tasmania Devils	Launceston
17	Will	McCabe	SA	Central District	Tanunda
18	Logan	Morris	VIC M	Western Jets	Werribee Districts
19	Billy	Richardson	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy	Wilston Grange
20	Kobe	Shipp	VIC C	Dandenong Stingrays	Beaconsfield
22	Will	Lorenz	VIC M	Oakleigh Chargers	Boroondara Hawks
23	Koltyn	Tholstrup	WA	Subiaco	Cunderdin
28	Archer	Reid	VIC C	Gippsland Power	Inverloch-Kongwak
29	William	Green	VIC M	Northern Knights	Northcote
30	Joe	Pike	VIC C	Geelong Falcons	Barwon Heads

TEAM HOULI​

#	NAME	SURNAME	STATE	STATE LEAGUE CLUB	COMMUNITY CLUB
2	Cam	Nyko	VIC M	Eastern Ranges	Healesville
3	Luamon	Lual	VIC C	GWV Rebels	South Warrnambool
4	Darcy	Wilson	VIC C	Murray Bushrangers	Wangaratta Rovers
5	Mahmoud	Taha	VIC M	Calder Cannons	Pascoe Vale
6	Jack	Delean	SA	South Adelaide	Reynella
7	Archie	Roberts	VIC M	Sandringham Dragons	Hampton Rovers
8	Nathan	Philactides	VIC M	Oakleigh Chargers	Blackburn
9	Alex	Holt	SA	Sturt	Glenunga
10	Luca	Slade	SA	Sturt	Glenunga
11	Colby	McKercher	TAS	Tasmania Devils	Launceston
13	Jack	Callinan	TAS	Tasmania Devils	Clarence
15	Michael	Rudd	VIC C	Geelong Falcons	St Mary's
16	Kane	McAuliffe	SA	North Adelaide	Central Augusta
17	Sam	Frangalas	VIC C	Dandenong Stingrays	Berwick
18	Harrison	Francis	SA	Glenelg	Phantoms
19	Connor	O'Sullivan	NSW/ACT	Murray Bushrangers	Albury
20	Will	Graham	QLD	Gold Coast Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin
21	Coen	Livingstone	WA	Perth	High Wycombe
22	Daniel	Curtin	WA	Claremont	West Coast
23	Bradley	McDonald	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy	Maroochydore
27	Jed	Walter	QLD	Gold Coast Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin
28	Ethan	Read	QLD	Gold Coast Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin

 

[Mutineer]

Another big tick for Aaron Cadman...

 

[Mutineer]

thanks Bicks

A player of particular interest...Wingnut's son Jack.

 

[StonesThrow]

The full squads for the match are listed below. Final teams for the match will be announced on Wednesday.

VICTORIA METRO​

#	NAME	SURNAME	DOB	NAB LEAGUE PROGRAM	COMMUNITY CLUB
3	Nick	Watson	24-02-05	Eastern Ranges	East Ringwood
4	Kai	Windsor	27-01-04	Eastern Ranges	South Belgrave
5	Alwyn	Davey	26-02-04	Oakleigh Chargers	Ashburton
6	Cameron	Kizan	03-06-04	Western Jets	Point Cook
7	Olli	Hotton	06-09-04	Sandringham Dragons	Hampton Rovers
8	Blake	Drury	11-01-04	Oakleigh Chargers	Vermont
9	George	Wardlaw	11-06-04	Oakleigh Chargers	St Peter's
10	Will	Ashcroft	06-05-04	Sandringham Dragons	Old Brighton Grammarians
11	Charlie	Clarke	04-01-04	Sandringham Dragons	Port Melbourne Colts
12	Paul	Pascu	20-08-04	Calder Cannons	Oak Park
13	Cooper	Harvey	12-07-04	Northern Knights	Yarrambat
14	Darcy	Edmends	28-05-04	Northern Knights	Heidelberg
15	Harry	Sheezel	13-10-04	Sandringham Dragons	Ajax
16	Rye	Penny	01-03-04	Calder Cannons	Gisborne
17	Bailey	Macdonald	04-08-04	Oakleigh Chargers	Surrey Park
18	Mitchell	Rowe	26-05-04	Sandringham Dragons	Mordialloc Braeside
19	Jakob	Anderson	12-09-04	Sandringham Dragons	Old Haileybury
20	Ben	Hempel	07-06-04	Sandringham Dragons	Mordialloc Braeside
21	Jaelen	Pavlidis	21-09-03	Western Jets	Werribee Districts
22	Cam	Mackenzie	21-01-04	Sandringham Dragons	Beaumaris
23	Elijah	Tsatas	18-10-04	Oakleigh Chargers	Surrey Park
24	Callum	Verrell	22-04-04	Eastern Ranges	Lysterfield
25	Yuyu	Ashwin	12-07-04	Oakleigh Chargers	Blackburn
26	Luke	Teal	20-05-04	Oakleigh Chargers	Glen Iris
28	Josh	Weddle	25-05-04	Oakleigh Chargers	Eltham
30	Matthew	Jefferson	08-03-04	Oakleigh Chargers	Ashburton
31	Clay	Tucker	09-08-04	Eastern Ranges	Rowville
32	Jovan	Petric	17-04-04	Western Jets	Keilor
33	Jerome	Lawrence	18-07-03	Oakleigh Chargers	Blackburn
34	Max	Gruzewski	21-07-04	Oakleigh Chargers	Caulfield Grammar
35	Lewis	Hayes	17-12-04	Eastern Ranges	Lysterfield
38	Sam	Grant	04-04-03	Northern Knights	Old Carey Grammarians
39	Hudson	O'Keeffe	16-12-04	Oakleigh Chargers	Camberwell

VICTORIA COUNTRY​

#	NAME	SURNAME	DOB	NAB LEAGUE PROGRAM	COMMUNITY CLUB
1	Jack	O'Sullivan	22-10-04	Oakleigh Chargers	Kyneton
2	Mitch	Szybkowski	09-01-04	Dandenong Stingrays	Beaconsfield
3	Harvey	Gallagher	26-09-03	Bendigo Pioneers	Sandhurst
4	Jaxon	Binns	29-10-04	Dandenong Stingrays	Berwick
5	Jhye	Clark	23-07-04	Geelong Falcons	Queenscliff
6	Noah	Long	23-08-04	Bendigo Pioneers	Echuca
7	Jacob	Konstanty	09-11-04	Gippsland Power	Drouin
8	Oliver	Hollands	16-01-04	Murray Bushrangers	Wodonga
9	Zane	Duursma	28-08-05	Gippsland Power	Foster
10	Jonti	Schuback	18-03-04	Gippsland Power	Maffra
11	Charlie	Barnett	28-04-04	Bendigo Pioneers	Kyabram
12	Coby	Burgiel	09-09-04	Gippsland Power	Maffra
13	Finn	Emile-Brennan	07-05-04	Dandenong Stingrays	Mt Eliza
14	Harley	Reid	17-04-05	Bendigo Pioneers	Tongala
15	Ted	Clohesy	09-06-04	Geelong Falcons	St Joseph's
17	Caleb	Mitchell	10-08-04	Murray Bushrangers	Yarrawonga
18	Toby	McMullin	06-08-04	Sandringham Dragons	Port Fairy
19	Felix	Fogaty	09-06-04	GWV Rebels	East Point
20	Bailey	Humphrey	11-09-04	Gippsland Power	Moe
22	Brayden	George	13-01-04	Murray Bushrangers	Wangaratta Rovers
25	Aaron	Cadman	03-03-04	GWV Rebels	Darley
27	Cooper	Vickery	16-12-04	Gippsland Power	Bairnsdale
28	Oscar	Murdoch	24-09-04	Geelong Falcons	Newtown & Chilwell
32	Hugh	Bond	25-09-04	GWV Rebels	North Ballarat
33	Henry	Hustwaite	20-07-04	Dandenong Stingrays	Rosebud
34	James	Van Es	07-08-04	GWV Rebels	North Ballarat
36	Jed	Brereton	09-06-03	Bendigo Pioneers	Echuca
37	Archer	Reid	19-09-05	Gippsland Power	Inverloch-Kongwak
38	Olivier	Northam	28-07-04	Geelong Falcons	St Joseph's
39	Harvey	Howe	26-10-04	Gippsland Power	Traralgon
40	Max	Knobel	27-06-04	Gippsland Power	Maffra

I don't think there were any stands outs from this game at our pick unless we're looking at a tall in Cadman (likely gone anyway) who is really impressive.

Sheezle I'm not sold on the hype. He does look quality but I haven't seen him dominate (outside of nab league) even in patches. Not really sure on his ultimate position either.

McKenzie didn't look to be favoured as a mid? Not sure where he was playing but probably suffered from lack of opportunity. Seems to make good decisions and has good skills, which I like. Some other areas of his game I haven't seen enough of to say whether I'd like him at 5 (accumulation, tackling etc).

Humphrey certainly has something about him. Has power and size. Kicking worries me though and is he going to be a forward?

Clark not his best game. Not overly clean or damaging.

Tsatas hasn't impressed me any any game I've watched. Hasn't used pace, size, kicking etc.

Hollands doesn't play like his brother, who has many elite traits. Pretty nice kick but I haven't seen anything else that puts him at the pointy end. More like 10+

It was probably one of those games that showed up a few of the lesser likes:

Konstanty would be a good pick up for those looking at a crafty forward.

MacDonald is interesting. Takes the game on and has great pace.

Hayes looks really solid. Neat disposal as well. He'd be a good pick up for someone looking for a KPD.

Mcmullin I really liked. Natural footballer. Similar with Binns and Burgiel. Could see them getting drafted and being neat players.

Gruzewski has a bit of Georgiades about him.

I think there were quite a few draftable players out there. Finding another Soligo would be nice

Reid does look like a serious player for next year and would be in the number 1 discussion this year. Looks like he could genuinely dominate anywhere on the ground.

 

[Mutineer]

South Adelaide's Jack Delean putting on a goal kicking clinic that quarter with 3 goals..

 

[Danger in Texas]

South Adelaide's Jack Delean putting on a goal kicking clinic that quarter with 3 goals..

Been on a flight during the game, any other prospects really impressed?

 

[Mutineer]

Not hard to see why clubs are looking to trade into next year's draft if the option presents watching today's U17's Future Stars game.

 

[Mutineer]

Been on a flight during the game, any other prospects really impressed?

Plenty...This is the best quality Future Stars game I've ever seen.

 

[Mutineer]

Been on a flight during the game, any other prospects really impressed?

McKercher my best but plenty of standouts.

Those Northern Academies are gonna get plenty of free hits next year. Cleary outstanding.

 

[Danger in Texas]

McKercher my best but plenty of standouts.

Those Northern Academies are gonna get plenty of free hits next year. Cleary outstanding.

McKercher's not aligned to anyone, right? Rate him super highly, with that speed/class/accumulation combo

 

[Crow_68]

Not hard to see why clubs are looking to trade into next year's draft if the option presents watching today's U17's Future Stars game.

Yep, starting to think Pick 5 may be used in some way in the Rankine trade & we'll hang on to our 2023/1.

 

[Jazny]

McKercher's not aligned to anyone, right? Rate him super highly, with that speed/class/accumulation combo

If Tasmania get a team I imagine him coming back, but whoever takes him in the mean time will be compensated.

 

[Miss Vanessa]

McKercher my best but plenty of standouts.

Those Northern Academies are gonna get plenty of free hits next year. Cleary outstanding.

Thank god for that. They need all the help they can get. Sydney almost didn’t even make the GF this year…

 

[Mutineer]

 

[Mutineer]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-draft-2023-10-top-prospects-to-watch-why-clubs-are-excited/news-story/1a3040f888061d80bee5b4932f3a5c71

AFL Draft 2023: 10 top prospects to watch, why clubs are excited​

An ‘unbelievable’ group of prospects next year is set to have a say on this year’s trade period. Find out the top 10 to watch ahead of the 2023 AFL draft.

While there is seen to be some depth in this year’s draft pool, the top-end talent is not considered to be as strong as other years and there are a lack of quality key-position players on offer.

Brisbane father-son prospect Will Ashcroft is a clear standout in this year’s draft, after winning the Larke Medal as the best and fairest player in the under 18 national championships last week.

However, fellow No. 1 pick contender George Wardlaw has barely been sighted since May due to multiple hamstring injury injuries.

Dynamic midfielder Elijah Tsatas played his first match of the national championships for Vic Metro only last week after missing a large part of the season with a fractured foot, while livewire small forward Harry Sheezel and agile key forward Aaron Cadman are considered the other top-five contenders.

Clubs are more buoyant about the top-end talent in the 2023 draft though, which includes Harley Reid, Nick Watson and Ashton Moir.

Reid has shown he can be a weapon in multiple positions this year, while Watson and Moir are crafty goalkicking forwards with serious X-Factor.

“Reid, Watson and Moir are unbelievable,” another veteran recruiter said.

That trio all missed last Saturday’s Under-17 All-Stars game – with Reid and Watson having played in the final under-18 national championships match two days earlier – but recruiters left the MCG with high excitement levels about many other prospects in next year’s draft pool.

Western Australia’s Daniel Curtin was named best afield for his work across halfback, but the 195cm tall has also shown he can play as a key forward this year.

Other top prospects for next year’s draft include Tasmanian pair Colby McKercher (who has been likened to Essendon’s Zach Merrett) and Ryley Sanders, along with Zane Duursma (the brother of Port Adelaide’s Xavier) and Archer Reid (the brother of Essendon’s Zach).

Will Lorenz – a midfielder-forward who is the grandson of Hawthorn great Graham Arthur – also caught the eye.

 

[crow2crow]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-draft-2023-10-top-prospects-to-watch-why-clubs-are-excited/news-story/1a3040f888061d80bee5b4932f3a5c71

AFL Draft 2023: 10 top prospects to watch, why clubs are excited​

An ‘unbelievable’ group of prospects next year is set to have a say on this year’s trade period. Find out the top 10 to watch ahead of the 2023 AFL draft.

While there is seen to be some depth in this year’s draft pool, the top-end talent is not considered to be as strong as other years and there are a lack of quality key-position players on offer.

Brisbane father-son prospect Will Ashcroft is a clear standout in this year’s draft, after winning the Larke Medal as the best and fairest player in the under 18 national championships last week.

However, fellow No. 1 pick contender George Wardlaw has barely been sighted since May due to multiple hamstring injury injuries.

Dynamic midfielder Elijah Tsatas played his first match of the national championships for Vic Metro only last week after missing a large part of the season with a fractured foot, while livewire small forward Harry Sheezel and agile key forward Aaron Cadman are considered the other top-five contenders.

Clubs are more buoyant about the top-end talent in the 2023 draft though, which includes Harley Reid, Nick Watson and Ashton Moir.

Reid has shown he can be a weapon in multiple positions this year, while Watson and Moir are crafty goalkicking forwards with serious X-Factor.

“Reid, Watson and Moir are unbelievable,” another veteran recruiter said.

That trio all missed last Saturday’s Under-17 All-Stars game – with Reid and Watson having played in the final under-18 national championships match two days earlier – but recruiters left the MCG with high excitement levels about many other prospects in next year’s draft pool.

Western Australia’s Daniel Curtin was named best afield for his work across halfback, but the 195cm tall has also shown he can play as a key forward this year.

Other top prospects for next year’s draft include Tasmanian pair Colby McKercher (who has been likened to Essendon’s Zach Merrett) and Ryley Sanders, along with Zane Duursma (the brother of Port Adelaide’s Xavier) and Archer Reid (the brother of Essendon’s Zach).

Will Lorenz – a midfielder-forward who is the grandson of Hawthorn great Graham Arthur – also caught the eye.

Watson is zero chance of top 10 he be lucky to be first round unless he grows 10cm in 12 months

 

[Mutineer]

Watson is zero chance of top 10 he be lucky to be first round unless he grows 10cm in 12 months

Pretty obvious you haven't watched a lot of his footy, his kind of smarts around goal are priceless, he's 16 years old, hard as a cat's head and already has the pressure side to his game that is rare at his age...he's a jet.

 

[PocketRocket08]

Pretty obvious you haven't watched a lot of his footy, his kind of smarts around goal are priceless, he's 16 years old, hard as a cat's head and already has the pressure side to his game that is rare at his age...he's a jet.

I agree he is a jet. I spoke with a few senior recruiters at two different times and both said won’t go top 10. I’d like to see him play more midfield next year.

 

[crow2crow]

Pretty obvious you haven't watched a lot of his footy, his kind of smarts around goal are priceless, he's 16 years old, hard as a cat's head and already has the pressure side to his game that is rare at his age...he's a jet.

Lets revisit this draft day next year. I've seen him too - he is not even close to moir or reid - recruiters will definitely be put off by his size. but yes he looks skilled.

 

[latinoheat]

So given 2023 is a better year than 2022, we’ll likely trade 2022 picks for Rankine.

Pick 5 for Rankine and pick 31?

Use our 2nd pick on best available and 31 matching michealanny?