List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft Discussion

[Scorpus]

Our draft haul:

Pick 17 - Max Michalanney (matched F/S)
Pick 43 - Billy Dowling
Pick 50 - Hugh Bond

Rookie Pick 5 - Andrew McPherson

36

Andrew Mcpherson

Age

26

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(re-listed)
Rookie Pick 21 - Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

33

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(re-listed)

 

[Danger in Texas]

You think Gold Coast wouldn’t have preferred our F1 over 5 in this shitty, excremental draft????

This year's top picks definitely seem to have less value than other years (look at how easily WCE gave up pick 2)

I honestly don't mind this draft myself based on what I've seen, but I'm only a spectator

 

[CROW in BALI]

A year ago I would have bet London to a brick we were positioning to draft Phillipou, it just made sense to me.
Can’t remember if it was Silvers or Reid’s comments eluding to trading and free agents moving forward, but feel now this is the way we may go to fill the deficiency of a dominant big ( insert E Hollands ) mid over the next couple of years.
Keeler going 40+ seems like a pipe dream but a sliding Barnett as others have mentioned would be ideal to go with Max for this year now imo.

Unrelated but not sure if anyone caught Rowey’s meltdown on 5AA last night , totally lost it calling Reid a “Dud” and “should
be sacked” our list management “a joke amongst AFL circles” and went on to “wasted draft picks” then mentioning McAsey, McHenry and Jones.

Guessing Jimmy may have not had any interest so Rowey going all in.

 

[George CantStandYa]

A year ago I would have bet London to a brick we were positioning to draft Phillipou, it just made sense to me.
Can’t remember if it was Silvers or Reid’s comments eluding to trading and free agents moving forward, but feel now this is the way we may go to fill the deficiency of a dominant big ( insert E Hollands ) mid over the next couple of years.
Keeler going 40+ seems like a pipe dream but a sliding Barnett as others have mentioned would be ideal to go with Max for this year now imo.

Unrelated but not sure if anyone caught Rowey’s meltdown on 5AA last night , totally lost it calling Reid a “Dud” and “should
be sacked” our list management “a joke amongst AFL circles” and went on to “wasted draft picks” then mentioning McAsey, McHenry and Jones.

Guessing Jimmy may have not had any interest so Rowey going all in.

Good and he’s being going hard for awhile now

 

[latinoheat]

A year ago I would have bet London to a brick we were positioning to draft Phillipou, it just made sense to me.
Can’t remember if it was Silvers or Reid’s comments eluding to trading and free agents moving forward, but feel now this is the way we may go to fill the deficiency of a dominant big ( insert E Hollands ) mid over the next couple of years.
Keeler going 40+ seems like a pipe dream but a sliding Barnett as others have mentioned would be ideal to go with Max for this year now imo.

Unrelated but not sure if anyone caught Rowey’s meltdown on 5AA last night , totally lost it calling Reid a “Dud” and “should
be sacked” our list management “a joke amongst AFL circles” and went on to “wasted draft picks” then mentioning McAsey, McHenry and Jones.

Guessing Jimmy may have not had any interest so Rowey going all in.

Wow did Rowe really say that? I’ll have to try and have a listen

 

[crow2crow]

A year ago I would have bet London to a brick we were positioning to draft Phillipou, it just made sense to me.
Can’t remember if it was Silvers or Reid’s comments eluding to trading and free agents moving forward, but feel now this is the way we may go to fill the deficiency of a dominant big ( insert E Hollands ) mid over the next couple of years.
Keeler going 40+ seems like a pipe dream but a sliding Barnett as others have mentioned would be ideal to go with Max for this year now imo.

Unrelated but not sure if anyone caught Rowey’s meltdown on 5AA last night , totally lost it calling Reid a “Dud” and “should
be sacked” our list management “a joke amongst AFL circles” and went on to “wasted draft picks” then mentioning McAsey, McHenry and Jones.

Guessing Jimmy may have not had any interest so Rowey going all in.

yep i thought the same on rowey but to be honest its a bit too personal as those top picks have nothing to do with jimmy delisting

 

[CROW in BALI]

Wow did Rowe really say that? I’ll have to try and have a listen

Yes , was early on in the show and then went again @ 5 pm with Bickley.
Came across as salty and unprofessional .

 

[Mutineer]

How can anyone take Rowe serious when he has skin in the game?

Amazing how people that usually rate Rowe as a W agree with him when it suits their agenda.

 

[George CantStandYa]

How can anyone take Rowe serious when he has skin in the game?

Amazing how people that usually rate Rowe as a W agree with him when it suits their agenda.

At least he has his own opinions, unlike some who just support the clubs decisions no matter how poor.

Plus what did he say that was wrong?

 

[craig crowing]

I don't know why you bother Colonel I couldn't give 2 shits about what you think.

I guess you had a little victory because I reacted like you had hoped.

I agree why don't we all ignore him and don't respond to any of his posts.

 

[latinoheat]

At least he has his own opinions, unlike some who just support the clubs decisions no matter how poor.

Plus what did he say that was wrong?

Your like a dog with a bone , you don’t let it go do you

 

[baldandbroke]

I agree why don't we all ignore him and don't respond to any of his posts.

How will he cope? Think of the children!

 

[Mostyn]

We wouldn't but we might be tempted if Mattaes is still there at #10.

Personally I doubt he's still there after #10.

Surely it would be 10 and a future 1st for our F1 and F2?

Pick swap I could see, but straight up giving up our future first seems crazy.

 

[Mostyn]

How are we getting terrible value for our future first pick?

We'd be getting pick 10 for a future top 10 pick which I actually project to be about pick 10 in 2023.

But regardless of those future unknown players, in the future draft that's always better.... we'd be getting a bottom age tall SA midfielder who looks pretty damn good, and could be exactly what we need. We'd potentially be getting a top 5 player in this draft that has fallen due to interstate clubs not wanting to draft him.

It's bad value because a possible top five pick next year should MINIMUM get us a top five pick this year.

And if we in any way rated him, we could have traded the future 1st and kept our pick and drafted him.

 

[George CantStandYa]

Your like a dog with a bone , you don’t let it go do you

No. Especially when he opens the door by criticising others.

 

[Mostyn]

You honestly think we'll be bottom 5 next year? I have us just outside finals.

10th AFC
11th Saints
12th Suns
13th Essendon
15th GWS
16th Hawks
17th WC
18th North

I think we're better than Hawthorn, NM and WCE but that's it.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

At least he has his own opinions, unlike some who just support the clubs decisions no matter how poor.

Plus what did he say that was wrong?

No he doesn’t. He now has a different opinion since his son got booted. Before that he was a big advocate for guys like McHenry.

 

[cleanhands]

How can anyone take Rowe seriously full-stop.

He is quite intelligent and a good bloke, it’s just for the radio clicks

 

[Ruby Clydesdale]

Got a hot tip from a very reliable source that we have a trade worked out with another club, which is quite aggressive and may land us a big draft fish.

 

[George CantStandYa]

No he doesn’t. He now has a different opinion since his son got booted. Before that he was a big advocate for guys like McHenry.

With McHenry he has defended his place in the team because he says he plays that role better than anyone on our list, that in itself says something about the state of our list.

He has criticised our drafting, list management and has called change all year. He went off when we overlooked Charmichael.

Surely you’re not disagreeing with him?

 

[cleanhands]

Got a hot tip from a very reliable source that we have a trade worked out with another club, which is quite aggressive and may land us a big draft fish.

Are you going to tell us when it wins or stay quiet because it run second

 

[George CantStandYa]

Are you going to tell us when it wins or stay quiet because it run second

Faiths back I reckon, this guys sources are as reliable

 

[cleanhands]

Faiths back I reckon, this guys sources are as reliable

I could release the xlotto to numbers

 

[baldandbroke]

I thought our draft hand was done?

MM + upgrades.

Next year’s pick should be saved for trades!

I’d much rather we went to Free Agents and trading in exposed talent with high picks.

We seem to have done really well with our outside 1st round picks recently, nabbing the likes of Berry - Soligo - Worrell - Parnell - Gollant - Butts - Shoenberg.

Compare that to the first rounders on the list in 2023 (I’ve probably forgotten someone!):

2 Thilthorpe
3 Rankine
6 McAsey, Rachele
9 Jones
11 Milera, Pedlar
12 Fogarty
14 Smith, Hately
16 McHenry
17 Doedee
25 Cook

I mean some of that top end talent is going to be the pointy end of our next push, the difference makers … I’d still argue that the non-first rounders are the meat on the bone.

I recently re-watched the first 3 games of the season.

It reminded me of a few things.

McHenry is a whole lot more than people on here think.
Thilthorpe is going to be something else.
Rachele is absurd, how I ever thought of uttering his name in any pie in the sky JHF trade scenario is beyond me.
Jones is still improving.
I feel like Shoenberg is going to be a player once his body develops, he moves and acts like a more powerful unit than is right now.
Himmelberg still has potential, i hope he reaches it.
Laird is a very good footballer.
Dawson is the most influential player on our team, outside of Tex

Happy to sit out this year, Pick up MM … bring in some more talent via trade at the end of 2023 - have a proper crack at it from 2024 onwards.

 

[Crow till I die]

A year ago I would have bet London to a brick we were positioning to draft Phillipou, it just made sense to me.
Can’t remember if it was Silvers or Reid’s comments eluding to trading and free agents moving forward, but feel now this is the way we may go to fill the deficiency of a dominant big ( insert E Hollands ) mid over the next couple of years.
Keeler going 40+ seems like a pipe dream but a sliding Barnett as others have mentioned would be ideal to go with Max for this year now imo.

Unrelated but not sure if anyone caught Rowey’s meltdown on 5AA last night , totally lost it calling Reid a “Dud” and “should
be sacked” our list management “a joke amongst AFL circles” and went on to “wasted draft picks” then mentioning McAsey, McHenry and Jones.

Guessing Jimmy may have not had any interest so Rowey going all in.

And he would be right and its a crying shame rowe is out and mchenry stays. I'd have j rowe 100 times out of 100 ahead of mchenry. Rowe has his limitations but is a natural footballer. Mchenry is a headless chicken that runs all day

 

[Mutineer]

Got a hot tip from a very reliable source that we have a trade worked out with another club, which is quite aggressive and may land us a big draft fish.

So have I but it will depend if we can find a buyer at fair value, no mention of a deal being already nutted out though.....2 SA players involved as well as Michalanney who is a lock apparently....only one of the two though due to list space, 1st player can't be had, move on to the 2nd.

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