List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft & Rookie Draft

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[Faz 2000]

I think we should draft an 18yo who can run 100m in 9 seconds, a marathon in 2 hours, bench press 200kg, has elite skills on both sides, sees the game like Scott Pendlebury

10

Scott Pendlebury

Age

37

Ht

191cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.5

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

13.3

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

12.9

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

3star

CL

3.6

4star

D

12.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.8

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

and will sign a long contract for well unders.

Or perhaps just best player available.

 

[djw1952]

I think we should draft an 18yo who can run 100m in 9 seconds, a marathon in 2 hours, bench press 200kg, has elite skills on both sides, sees the game like Scott Pendlebury and will sign a long contract for well unders.

Or perhaps just best player available.

No I prefer the first kid actually....by the way, what`s his name so I can look him up?

 

[bmaurizio]

I think we should draft an 18yo who can run 100m in 9 seconds, a marathon in 2 hours, bench press 200kg, has elite skills on both sides, sees the game like Scott Pendlebury and will sign a long contract for well unders.

Or perhaps just best player available.

That’s about it in a nutshell, agree totally , best available, with mature attitude and competitive determination is about all any club can wish for.
We all have out favorite, but ultimately, in Curly Jr we trust.
I hope we’re lucky.

 

[teknodeejay]

Brayden George.

This would be my selection if available. Reckon he may well become a gun. A bit of Bruest about him imo.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Yep. He was eligible last year too. Outside chance.

Is Dane a better chance than Fischer McAsey to make it?


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[Juice030103]

So it’s pick 10 which will become 11 with Ashcroft. Whose available there

 

[Christou2Kouta]

Bailey Humphrey kicked another 4 goals on the weekend, this time without any behinds. He's moving towards my preferred player status.

 

[Blue__Balls]

So it’s pick 10 which will become 11 with Ashcroft. Whose available there

Probably too early to get a read on, but going by the phantom drafts/rankings to date the ones that would be of interest to us (and could be reasonably expected to be available at Pick 10-11):

Busslinger (KPD) (probably goes top 10, though)
Hustwaite (utility)
Hewett (stoppage mid)
Clark (balanced mid)
Mackenzie (balanced mid)
Hayes (KPD)
Hollands (balanced mid)
George (small/medium forward)
Phillipou (medium forward/mid)
Jefferson (KPF)

The three bolded are the ones who interest me most. Cycling in a classy mid to the list is never a bad thing, especially one who could start life on a wing. And a dynamic small/medium forward option is something we could easily make use of sooner rather than later.

Not a fan of the calls to draft a KPP early, think it's just asking for them to be poached in a few years anyway. Take a rough gem late instead.

 

[bmaurizio]

Bailey Humphrey kicked another 4 goals on the weekend, this time without any behinds. He's moving towards my preferred player status.

Yup Baiely would be a great addition to our midfield if we could snared him, reckon he'll be a top 6/8 thought, just as happy with Holland, Ginbey, George or Mackenzie all quality youngsters.

 

[Juice030103]

I’d like to pick someone whose gonna play 15 games in the first year. Not really interested in a long term project

 

[Arr0w]

Think the way the draft/quality is playing out, seems to me that we may now take a mid with our 1st pick, maybe even with our 2nd (although there are some interesting talls in this range), then take 1 or 2 developing talls later in the draft

Of those mids, Hollands could be there, but some of his work with the ball is rushed and does turn it over more than I like. Mitch Szybkowski is of more interest for me, has slightly more toe to burst in traffic and has a more penetrating kick, where he places it in good areas for teammates. Humphrey is rising, can rest forward and kick goals while being a very solid midfielder

If you are going for talls at our 1st, you would need to go slightly early for the likes of Barnett or a Hayes, 1 of which could slide to our 2nd. Jefferson could be there, but will take some years to develop, similar to a Harrison Jones. If a guy like Phillipou drifts to pick 10, snap him up

2nd round and beyond, talls, Scaife, Knobel, Petric, Northam, Foster, Tregenza-Cashell, Van Es, Scully, all have appeal for different reasons. 2nd round and beyond, runners/better users and or impact types, McDonald, Edmends, Binns (later in the draft), George (probably late 1st)

Then you have under sized types that have different levels of impact. Drury, Long, Jones, Hagan. Late round xfactor, Dewar

Hardness/Mongrel Ginbey, Cleaver, Tregenza-Cashell

A player I really like and would be there for our 2nd, Billy Dowling. Elite reader of the game, great hands and uses great options when distributing the ball, just lack toe and we would be adding another one paced mid

Best mid in the draft, overall, Jhye Clark, bust proof

 

[No1Suspect]

Id be looking at our 2nd and Jones compo and seeing if brisbane want to take that for points. We dont need to big of an overhaul, 2 picks sub #18 would be ideal.

 

[The Return of the Paf]

The draft rankings go up and down like a yo-yo. People take the draft range of players too literally and forget the human factor in all this.

 

[bmaurizio]

Think the way the draft/quality is playing out, seems to me that we may now take a mid with our 1st pick, maybe even with our 2nd (although there are some interesting talls in this range), then take 1 or 2 developing talls later in the draft

Of those mids, Hollands could be there, but some of his work with the ball is rushed and does turn it over more than I like. Mitch Szybkowski is of more interest for me, has slightly more toe to burst in traffic and has a more penetrating kick, where he places it in good areas for teammates. Humphrey is rising, can rest forward and kick goals while being a very solid midfielder

If you are going for talls at our 1st, you would need to go slightly early for the likes of Barnett or a Hayes, 1 of which could slide to our 2nd. Jefferson could be there, but will take some years to develop, similar to a Harrison Jones. If a guy like Phillipou drifts to pick 10, snap him up

2nd round and beyond, talls, Scaife, Knobel, Petric, Northam, Foster, Tregenza-Cashell, Van Es, Scully, all have appeal for different reasons. 2nd round and beyond, runners/better users and or impact types, McDonald, Edmends, Binns (later in the draft), George (probably late 1st)

Then you have under sized types that have different levels of impact. Drury, Long, Jones, Hagan. Late round xfactor, Dewar

Hardness/Mongrel Ginbey, Cleaver, Tregenza-Cashell

A player I really like and would be there for our 2nd, Billy Dowling. Elite reader of the game, great hands and uses great options when distributing the ball, just lack toe and we would be adding another one paced mid

Best mid in the draft, overall, Jhye Clark, bust proof

Agree on Jhye he'll be a ripper as with Bailey my favorite, reckon both will be kncoking down the door to top 5 thought.

 

[mochacinolatte]

I swear, these buzz words "Balanced" midfielders does my head in. Tell me what he can and can't do.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Think the way the draft/quality is playing out, seems to me that we may now take a mid with our 1st pick, maybe even with our 2nd (although there are some interesting talls in this range), then take 1 or 2 developing talls later in the draft

Of those mids, Hollands could be there, but some of his work with the ball is rushed and does turn it over more than I like. Mitch Szybkowski is of more interest for me, has slightly more toe to burst in traffic and has a more penetrating kick, where he places it in good areas for teammates

If you are going for talls at our 1st, you would need to go slightly early for the likes of Barnett or a Hayes, 1 of which could slide to our 2nd. Jefferson could be there, but will take some years to develop, similar to a Harrison Jones. If a guy like Phillipou drifts to pick 10, snap him up

2nd round and beyond, talls, Scaife, Knobel, Petric, Northam, Foster, Tregenza-Cashell, Van Es, Scully, all have appeal for different reasons. 2nd round and beyond, runners/better users and or impact types, McDonald, Edmends, Binns (later in the draft), Humphrey, George (probably late 1st)

Then you have under sized types that have different levels of impact. Drury, Long, Jones, Hagan. Late round xfactor, Dewar

Hardness/Mongrel Ginbey, Cleaver, Tregenza-Cashell

A player I really like and would be there for our 2nd, Billy Dowling. Elite reader of the game, great hands and uses great options when distributing the ball, just lack toe and we would be adding another one paced mid

Best mid in the draft, overall, Jhye Clark, bust proof

Take the draft/quality out of it and it's just the right play anyway.

We don't have a key position vacancy opening up in the next 6 years for anything except injury. Drafting a KPP in the first round is a waste of resources. They'll toil away in the 2's, hoping Charlie does a knee, getting frustrated at the lack of opportunity. If they perform well down there, we might get our investment back. Or they might pull a McAsey, struggle to impact, and then we'll be lucky to get a second rounder for them.

Take a balanced mid who can start on a wing, half back or half forward flank. Or take a specialised small/medium forward who can play early and give us a different dynamic (and maybe a hit of energy).

 

[Blue__Balls]

I swear, these buzz words "Balanced" midfielders does my head in. Tell me what he can and can't do.

Inside mid.
Outside mid.
Balanced mid.

It's pretty straightforward.

Inside mids skew towards ball winning over disposal (ie. Cripps), outside mids skew towards disposal over ball winning (ie. LOB). Balanced mids usually display a good blend of strength, composure and skills without being as proficient in one area over another (ie. Cerra).

You want to know what the individual players can do? Google, it's not hard to find, especially for people like us who waste hours on BigFooty

 

[Arr0w]

Take the draft/quality out of it and it's just the right play anyway.

We don't have a key position vacancy opening up in the next 6 years for anything except injury. Drafting a KPP in the first round is a waste of resources. They'll toil away in the 2's, hoping Charlie does a knee, getting frustrated at the lack of opportunity. If they perform well down there, we might get our investment back. Or they might pull a McAsey, struggle to impact, and then we'll be lucky to get a second rounder for them.

Take a balanced mid who can start on a wing, half back or half forward flank. Or take a specialised small/medium forward who can play early and give us a different dynamic (and maybe a hit of energy).

I guess it's a balance and injuries, poor form, will always play a part

At our pick in the first round, there isn't a Mckay and even he took 3-4 years to really play games that were of AFL consistent standard. You can also shuffle a guy like Young forward, to play that high CHF/relief ruck, or TDK and Young sharing these duties.

A guy like Harry Barnett, who has been used anywhere down the spine, would still take time to develop, it's an investment to the future. A guy like Hayes could start by playing as a 3rd tall, until he was ready to take a key post

So, it gets back to my original post, given where we have our picks and the quality/quantity available, makes better sense to take a non tall with our 1st and a tall with our 2nd.

This could change again, as we may trade back to have multiple hits with a late 1st and an additional early 2nd

 

[The Return of the Paf]

Take the draft/quality out of it and it's just the right play anyway.

We don't have a key position vacancy opening up in the next 6 years for anything except injury. Drafting a KPP in the first round is a waste of resources. They'll toil away in the 2's, hoping Charlie does a knee, getting frustrated at the lack of opportunity. If they perform well down there, we might get our investment back. Or they might pull a McAsey, struggle to impact, and then we'll be lucky to get a second rounder for them.

Take a balanced mid who can start on a wing, half back or half forward flank. Or take a specialised small/medium forward who can play early and give us a different dynamic (and maybe a hit of energy).

I disagree, Curnow can play as a third tall. I think McKay is struggling because his job is secure, and I don't see De Koning being that foil I think we need. It's tactical as much as anything.

 

[Blue__Balls]

I guess it's a balance and injuries, poor form, will always play a part

At our pick in the first round, there isn't a Mckay and even he took 3-4 years to really play games that were of AFL consistent standard. You can also shuffle a guy like Young forward, to play that high CHF/relief ruck, or TDK and Young sharing these duties.

A guy like Harry Barnett, who has been used anywhere down the spine, would still take time to develop, it's an investment to the future. A guy like Hayes could start by playing as a 3rd tall, until he was ready to take a key post

So, it gets back to my original post, given where we have our picks and the quality/quantity available, makes better sense to take a non tall with our 1st and a tall with our 2nd.

This could change again, as we may trade back to have multiple hits with a late 1st and an additional early 2nd

Talls taken later may take just as long to develop, but as a general rule they're prepared to do that. A KPF drafted at Pick 50 is less likely to get frustrated at a lack of opportunity inside the first couple of seasons, whereas a top 10 pick (and their manager) are expecting opportunities early, and if they don't come then opposition list managers are absolutely targeting them.

Even our third tall posts are currently occupied for the foreseeable future. We've already got Kemp developing and he couldn't get a look in there despite injuries.

Take a Mitch Lewis type late and build them up, sure, but use our first (and probably second) round pick on a dynamic player who stands a good chance of cracking the seniors within the next year or two. Pace, aggression and skills are traits we need to add to our list, and I'd rather get footballers with those traits using early picks than take some more athletic projects like Honey so that we can stockpile KPPs we can't fit into the side.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

We absolutely need a developing tall forward in the twos, what we don’t need is to buy in a ready made one.

He will get opportunities, injuries are an everyday occurrence at our club. What he won’t get is the pressure to be ready too early, just develop your craft.



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[Arr0w]

A kid that I wouldn't mind taking late/rookie is Sam Grant. 199cm KPP, will take time

 

[Blue__Balls]

We absolutely need a developing tall forward in the twos, what we don’t need is to buy in a ready made one.

He will get opportunities, injuries are an everyday occurrence at our club. What he won’t get is the pressure to be ready too early, just develop your craft.



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Yep, not disputing that. Just making my claim that we're better served taking one later in the draft than investing a top 10 pick.

 

[No1Suspect]

Fingers crossed a couple of teams take a KPP before our pick and theres a left field crazy pick ie reece conca

6

Reece Conca

Age

33

Ht

181cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

10.8

4star

HB

7.4

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.6

5star

MG

228.0

3star

D

13.8

3star

K

11.2

4star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.5

3star

MG

228.0

3star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

, so we get a solid slider.... 1 of tsatas, sheezel, humphrey or hewett please

 

[Markyd]

Isaac Smith

7

Isaac Smith

Age

36

Ht

188cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.4

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.7

4star

D

19.4

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.3

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.5

3star

CL

1.3

4star

D

19.2

5star

K

10.6

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

7.6

5star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.6

3star

- Mk II