List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft

[davesnothere]

Scouting notes from WAFL Colts week 1.

Joshua Draper noteworthy.

Scouting Notes: 2022 WAFL Colts - Finals Week 1

Peel Thunder and South Fremantle advanced in week one of the WAFL Colts finals series. We noted some of the top performers from either win.

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[Coobk001]

Why the * did we not bring in a KPD last year?

I know we brought in Skinner but looking at the ages of McKenzie, Clurey, Jonas and Aliir it was obvious we needed more.

Rarely do our recruiting staff cop it, but that Skinner selection should 100% be on their hands. That was a horrible, horrible selection. We would've been better off selecting a kid in the draft.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Rarely do our recruiting staff cop it, but that Skinner selection should 100% be on their hands. That was a horrible, horrible selection. We would've been better off selecting a kid in the draft.

It wasn't really. Based on what he was showing last year he seemed like a good choice, and he had experience in the AFL system. For some reason (possibly his body wasn't up to AFL workload?) he dropped off enormously this year. Easy to say with the benefit of hindsight it was a bad call, but at the time it made sense.

 

[JakeNeadeFan]

Even Skinner's SANFL went off a cliff. He went from being the best defender in the SANFL to looking like a reserves level player.


It wasn't even like he struggled with the speed of AFL, for whatever reason he just struggled in the AFL system.

 

[PatientMental]

Skinners fall of form from 2021 to 2022 was remarkable.

2021

2022

 

[Long live PAFC]

Unfair to compare the stats as he went from a rounded SANFL side to an incompetent one, where he played in the ruck and forward line as well as defence.

The issue was, he wasn’t a break glass in emergency type as he had injury concerns and wasn’t a proven AFL player (ie compared to say Josh Walker or Daniel Talia

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Daniel Talia

Age

34

Ht

197cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.0

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

169.9

3star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.5

2star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.1

2star

MG

187.6

3star

D

11.4

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

3.4

5star

- not saying we should have brought them in) nor was he a likely development option (like Pasini) due to his lack of speed and agility after 3 knee recons. So it was a real nothing pick.

To his credit he gave it a real crack and tried hard for the club.


Are we really delisting McEntee, Dumont and Frederick now, considering we have already announced the other delistings?

 

[Long live PAFC]

If we somehow manage Harry Barnett, Van Es and Magor, would be pants down lap around the table time.

 

[PortVic]

I would love Kobe Ryan @ 60. Something special about him, watching his highlight package. Probably not ready for AFL level next year, but get him in the gym and watch out.

 

[240volt]

I would love Kobe Ryan @ 60. Something special about him, watching his highlight package. Probably not ready for AFL level next year, but get him in the gym and watch out.

He plays for Glenelg?
He looks good bog against Vic metro

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

He plays for Glenelg?
He looks good bog against Vic metro

West Adelaide Midfielder

#9​

Kobe Ryan​

height: 183cm
weight: 73kg
D.O.B: 17-02-2004

West Adelaide - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

 

[240volt]

West Adelaide Midfielder

#9​

Kobe Ryan​

height: 183cm
weight: 73kg
D.O.B: 17-02-2004

West Adelaide - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

Sorry I’m thinking of Jakob Ryan from Glenelg.

 

[Tibbs]

So odd.

Even if you’re unwell, surely you get it done then drop.

Suggests some real concerns on preparation and mindset.

He was like one of those runners you see finishing the marathon on shakey legs ... Poor dude was just done in!

Here it is ...

 

[FishingRick04]

Poor kid, how embarrassing for him. He obviously pushed way out of his ability level

 

[Jonts]

Looks like when you see a baby giraffe trying to walk

And hows they all clap him

Just for it to awkwardly stop when he collapses again

 

[davesnothere]

Pretty sure all the GPS data of the players from the U18 comp is available to the clubs so they would have a fair idea of what players can and can’t do.

Would still like to see Hayes’s run in its entirety before passing judgment on him. Obviously needs work but I’m sure there’s more to that run than the last 50 metres.

 

[240volt]

Pass

 

[EskimoPAFC]

I would love Kobe Ryan @ 60. Something special about him, watching his highlight package. Probably not ready for AFL level next year, but get him in the gym and watch out.

I reckon if Kobe Ryan played basketball with BT they'd be a fearsome duo.

 

[Bevoman]

If we somehow manage Harry Barnett, Van Es and Magor, would be pants down lap around the table time.

Today's paper has a Top 40 Draft list, possible defenders around our pick 33 include:

28 Max Gruzewski Oakleigh Chargers Forward/Defender 192cm 84kg​

29 Ed Allan Claremont mid 194cm 82kg​

32 Max Michalanney​

Norwood/SA/Crows father-son – Defender, 192cm, 78kg​

24 Isaac Keeler 198cm 88kg (both worth considering to upset the Crows)​

17 Lewis Hayes 197cm 81kg​

17 Henry Hustwaite 194cm 84kgs (alas, both probable long gone before 33)​

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[1954]

That Haye's time trial was extremely uncomfortable to watch, and unless it was caused by a known issue that clubs are prepared to take into account it could push him well down the draft order from where he is expected to go.

The above aside I believe he is a longer term project than we probably need at this stage with the current list, and we already have project talls in Lord and Visentini (with the former already having the physical attributes to be some chance of making the grade, and the latter looking very promising plus showing a lot of versatility in his first season with the Maggies), so unless Hayes drops way down the order I believe the club will be better off selecting a 195 cm plus kpd who is at least some chance of playing from day one, even if he's a mature ager from one of the state comps.

 

[JakeNeadeFan]

Don't need a midfielder unless there is an unbelievable slider. I can't see how a midfielder we draft will make it into our midfield in the coming years unless they are extremely good. We already have Mead and Drew who will struggle to get a place.

Could be partial to a small forward if there is a decent one available.

This is probably a draft to take two genuine talls in my opinion. One in the back half and one forward. It will be speculative but if you take two there is a fair chance one works out.

I think Lemmey might still be worth taking a punt on if he is there at 33. I like how he plays in comparison to our other talls. Good leading patterns, nice kicking action and can do some work up the ground. He needs to use his size better but that is developable. His leading is a nice.point of difference compared to a Visentin or Teakle for example.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

SA based players being tested tomorrow at 10am (i.e. not invited to the national testing so only a couple of clubs interested:

2022 NAB AFL State Combine Invitees - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

 

[Sleezy]

Don't need a midfielder unless there is an unbelievable slider. I can't see how a midfielder we draft will make it into our midfield in the coming years unless they are extremely good. We already have Mead and Drew who will struggle to get a place.

Could be partial to a small forward if there is a decent one available.

This is probably a draft to take two genuine talls in my opinion. One in the back half and one forward. It will be speculative but if you take two there is a fair chance one works out.

I think Lemmey might still be worth taking a punt on if he is there at 33. I like how he plays in comparison to our other talls. Good leading patterns, nice kicking action and can do some work up the ground. He needs to use his size better but that is developable. His leading is a nice.point of difference compared to a Visentin or Teakle for example.

I would like another mid if we can squeeze one in, purely because we don't actually have that many genuine mids of proven quality (note I have excluded flankers that have yet to show that genuine mid can be their permanent home. This includes Butters, Bergman, Duursma, Houston, Jones & Sinn. They might make it, but at this stage we shouldn't be banking on it and ignoring the risk that they don't):

• Boak 34
• Wines 28
• Drew 24 capable but can step up a level
• SPP 24 playing as a HFF
• Rozee 22
• Horne Francis 20 potential star, but unproven at this stage

And then below that:

• Dumont 27 AFL quality, but limited - excellent depth
• Mead 21 unproven, may never reach the level
• Jackson 20 unproven, project player

One more developing would be nice.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

SA based players being tested tomorrow at 10am (i.e. not invited to the national testing so only a couple of clubs interested:

2022 NAB AFL State Combine Invitees - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

Any over 195?

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[Holden Hillbilly]

Any over 195?

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Kyle Marshall 198cm/79kg Defender South Adelaide

Oscar Steene 201cm/95kg Ruckman West Adelaide

National screening >195cm from SA:

Harry Barnett 202cm/93kg Ruck West Adelaide

Harry Lemmey 199cm/93kg Key Forward West Adelaide

Isaac Keeler 198cm/88kg Key Forward/ruck North Adelaide

Phoenix Foster 197cm/87kg Key Forward/Ruck Norwood

Tom Scully 202cm/89kg Key Forward/Ruck West Adelaide

Will Verrall 200cm/92kg Ruckman South Adelaide

 

[robbo1981]

We should be picking big lads with our picks this yr unless someone we really like slides to 33.

 

[PJ Power]

We should be picking big lads with our picks this yr unless someone we really like slides to 33.

The one thing we can say is that we shouldn't be picking generic flankers. i.e. no Hugh Jackson types.