2022 Bathurst 1000

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Not long now. DJR going retro mode with their cars.

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Love the retro look.

Was supposed to be up there camping again this year but we have a 12 week scan on the Saturday.

In truth, I was only going up to spend time with the old boy and uncle. I'll still watch this race but the series has lost all interest for me.
 

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One last win for Holden, as long as its not Triple 8. Chaz is our only hope.

In all honesty Gen 3 can get ****ed, make Bathurst a one make race for VT Commodore station wagons.
 

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You'd suspect they'll move up the start time like in 2020 if the forecast holds. Gotta finish it in time for 7 news and all
 

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24mls is enough to can the race. Water would be flowing down the gutters.
Depends on how it falls. If it's one big thunderstorm, dumping 24mm in 1-2 hours (12-24mm per hour), then that would definitely see the race red flagged - though a re-start may be possible, depending on the timing. If it's a steady 1-3mm per hour, then "let's go racing".

The joker in the pack is the fact that the ground is already completely saturated, with more rain forecast in the days leading up to the race. It's not just the Sunday forecast that we need to be worried about. Anything that falls is going to run straight off the mountain, so we're definitely going to see how effective the track design is at managing run-off from the areas around the track. Rain that falls on the track itself is one thing - but the ability to manage run-off from surrounding areas will determine whether or not the race can proceed.
 

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Depends on how it falls. If it's one big thunderstorm, dumping 24mm in 1-2 hours (12-24mm per hour), then that would definitely see the race red flagged - though a re-start may be possible, depending on the timing. If it's a steady 1-3mm per hour, then "let's go racing".

The joker in the pack is the fact that the ground is already completely saturated, with more rain forecast in the days leading up to the race. It's not just the Sunday forecast that we need to be worried about. Anything that falls is going to run straight off the mountain, so we're definitely going to see how effective the track design is at managing run-off from the areas around the track. Rain that falls on the track itself is one thing - but the ability to manage run-off from surrounding areas will determine whether or not the race can proceed.

Wet from Wednesday : http://www.bom.gov.au/places/nsw/bathurst/
 

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... as I said - the ground is already completely saturated, with more rain forecast in the days leading up to the race.

It's going to be a massive test for the track's engineering, as we see how well it deals with water running off from the areas surrounding the track, particularly the properties inside the track.
 

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... as I said - the ground is already completely saturated, with more rain forecast in the days leading up to the race.

It's going to be a massive test for the track's engineering, as we see how well it deals with water running off from the areas surrounding the track, particularly the properties inside the track.
Considering how much traffic the infield gets (camping, caravans etc), I'd be bloody worried about how much water comes rolling down the mountain.

Just seems a recipe for disaster.
 

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Considering how much traffic the infield gets (camping, caravans etc), I'd be bloody worried about how much water comes rolling down the mountain.

Just seems a recipe for disaster.
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the camping & parking areas are closed. I know the Temora Aviation Museum cancelled their bi-annual Warbirds Airshow, because the ground was so wet that it would have been unsafe to have thousands of people on site. I will not be surprised if they are forced to do the same with many of the camping & parking areas at Bathurst.

It's not just a matter of run off created by "traffic" - it's just going to run off the whole area, because the ground is so wet.

Here's the Warbirds cancellation media release - I am expecting the same logic to apply at Bathurst:
Warbirds Downunder 2022 Cancelled - Temora Aviation Museum.
 

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The weather forecast minimum rainfall Wed -Sun is 65mm. Max 110mm.

Saturday & Sunday the wettest days.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the camping & parking areas are closed. I know the Temora Aviation Museum cancelled their bi-annual Warbirds Airshow, because the ground was so wet that it would have been unsafe to have thousands of people on site. I will not be surprised if they are forced to do the same with many of the camping & parking areas at Bathurst.

It's not just a matter of run off created by "traffic" - it's just going to run off the whole area, because the ground is so wet.

Here's the Warbirds cancellation media release - I am expecting the same logic to apply at Bathurst:
Warbirds Downunder 2022 Cancelled - Temora Aviation Museum.
It's a big ask, all these spots have been booked out for months and months.

Not just easy to rehouse them all. That's provided they still go of course.
 

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BoM Forecast for Bathurst: http://www.bom.gov.au/nsw/forecasts/bathurst.shtml

Currently predicting:
Wed: 15-25mm
Thurs: 5-10mm
Fri: 15-20mm
Sat: 15-30mm
Sun: 15-30mm

I don't see how they can keep the parking & camping areas open under those conditions, particularly given the pre-existing saturation levels.

There will be a lot of run-off from the surrounding areas, particularly the properties inside the track (particularly either side of Conrod & Mountain straights). How the track engineering handles this run-off will be the key to whether or not we get a race.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the camping & parking areas are closed. I know the Temora Aviation Museum cancelled their bi-annual Warbirds Airshow, because the ground was so wet that it would have been unsafe to have thousands of people on site. I will not be surprised if they are forced to do the same with many of the camping & parking areas at Bathurst.

It's not just a matter of run off created by "traffic" - it's just going to run off the whole area, because the ground is so wet.

Here's the Warbirds cancellation media release - I am expecting the same logic to apply at Bathurst:
Warbirds Downunder 2022 Cancelled - Temora Aviation Museum.

Next time I get to Bathurst, Temora is on the hit list.
 

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It's a big ask, all these spots have been booked out for months and months.

Not just easy to rehouse them all. That's provided they still go of course.
It's a safety issue. They won't have any choice.

Where people will park, and what alternative camping arrangements are, I have no idea. I'm actually surprised that an announcement hasn't already been made, given that Temora has already made the call over Warbirds.
 

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Next time I get to Bathurst, Temora is on the hit list.
I've been a couple of times - it's highly recommended.

They have Flying Days about every 2 months. Most of their aircraft collection is in flying condition, and they get them all airborne. It's not as big as Warbirds, which draws historic aircraft from everywhere, but it's still well worth seeing.

Maintaining all those aircraft in flying condition is horrendously expensive. It's all paid for by David Lowy, the son of Frank Lowy, who owns Westfield.
 

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I'd also add that Temora is 250km from Bathurst, so "hitting" Temora on a trip to Bathurst probably isn't viable.

The point is that both are major outdoor activities, with large crowds, with similar weather & ground conditions forecast. The people at the Temora Aviation Museum have already cancelled their big event. I can't see Bathurst being stopped, but I can see large areas being closed to the public, on safety grounds.