List Mgmt. 2022 draft pool.

[Dr Tigris]

I remember when we drafted Liam Baker and the melts on here (including me) about why the hell are we drafting another short ass sub 180cm small foward when we have 7 on the list already.

Thank god we did

I didn't see it at first. Now I just love the little bugger. Hard as a very hard thing, good skills, smarts and acts like the toughest guy in the bar room. Give him some growth hormones at 13 and he'd be a total super star.

 

[Dr Tigris]

Don’t understand how people can say this with confidence.
He’s tall, takes marks at its absolute peak, and is a booming kick.
Let’s see

Gibcus can be anything, got all the tools. Hope they give him a shot forward. We have a lot of KPD talent. But use smarts to decide if it's a good decision. Balta seemed like worth a shot, but looked a bit lost.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

I didn't see it at first. Now I just love the little bugger. Hard as a very hard thing, good skills, smarts and acts like the toughest guy in the bar room. Give him some growth hormones at 13 and he'd be a total super star.

I just love the way he always has that smile on his face , Doesnt matter if he smashes a player or gets smashed always smiling and giving 100%

 

[Dr Tigris]

I just love the way he always has that smile on his face , Doesnt matter if he smashes a player or gets smashed always smiling and giving 100%

That grin is weird. And the harder he gets hit the wider it is.

Love him.

 

[Growapair]

Agreed. Tarrant is a defender. Balta is a defender. Miller is probably a defender. Gibcus is an unknown at this stage.

Agreed, except for Miller, definitely a ruckman that can play as a defender.

Do you reckon Gibcus will do pre-season as a defender or forward?

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Agreed, except for Miller, definitely a ruckman that can play as a defender.

Do you reckon Gibcus will do pre-season as a defender or forward?

Personally i think he should be tried in both positions and not just deemed a defender
kid has good hands and a nice leap with decent kicking skills and there is no reason we couldnt have all of Balta , Miller & Gibcus playing cameo roles up foward

 

[prodigy]

I've been saying it since the end of the season, I fully expect Gibcus to do pre-season as a forward.
Jack can show him the ropes.

 

[Not Important]

Gibcus can be anything, got all the tools. Hope they give him a shot forward. We have a lot of KPD talent. But use smarts to decide if it's a good decision. Balta seemed like worth a shot, but looked a bit lost.

balta is a back, pure and simple. using him forward cost us. i do think gibcus is more a chance of making it as a forward, but let him settle in the back half first.

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

If thats the case.Forget about drafting a KPF this year and target Treacy(Freo).
From the outside looking in he looks the ideal KPF to play along side Lynch.
3yrs in the system by then.Way more advanced than a massive speculative kid at 50+.

Seems that you and I are regularly the only people around here, anywhere that like Treacy.

Seems to have a great attitude and work rate but it concerns me that Freo seemingly don’t rate him.

Using a high pick on Amiss and bringing in Corbett has me thinking I’m overrating him.

 

[_RT_]

With Gibcus I hope they leave him down back and allow him to settle into the position he looked most comfortable in during his first year. Much like what happened with Balta and before him Griffiths we don't want to start confusing the kid by throwing him back and forward and not letting him truly settle. IMO if we can get Balta Miller and Gibcus settled in the back line over the next 12-24 months we'll have the foundation of our back 6 for the next decade.

I don't get the desire to want to constantly reinvent players. First is was Balta that plenty wanted to turn into a forward and despite some brief signs of promise it quickly became apparent that he wasn't suited to playing up forward, it works fine as a pinch hit option to surprise opponents or change things up when we're struggling. Gibcus was drafted because he was arguably the best KPD in the draft in 2021 and he performed well enough to debut early on in the season and hold his spot for a fair part of the season. Now he needs to capitalise on that with him and have him spend another season, with Truck there to guide him, so that when the likes of Tarrant and Grimes move on sooner rather than later we're not then trying to find a replacement KPD when we've already got a few young ones with a bit of quality about them.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Seems that you and I are regularly the only people around here, anywhere that like Treacy.

Seems to have a great attitude and work rate but it concerns me that Freo seemingly don’t rate him.

Using a high pick on Amiss and bringing in Corbett has me thinking I’m overrating him.

We can only go by what we see on the field.There maybe issues off field like training standards that us punters don't know about.
Nevertheless the way he crashes packs etc it has Richmond man written all over him.Reminds me of the same ? marks when we got Nank.
Just think he'll be right wingman for Lynch.

 

[Marcel Proust]

I reckon that graphic was from the start of the year Marcel. There's a few of those blokes (eg. O'Sullivan) have fallen well back since then, and quite a few new ones will go well before of them.

Yes it was.

It may some phantom drafts had lemmey top3.

To get him with a late pick wouldn't be a terrible result?

 

[Mr Magic]

They were the leading tall goal kickers. In successful sides

To be fair Bruce has not played in a successful side.

Mcdonald started as a back and really is a bit of a swingman and Cameron clearly is a ruck that can kick goals

 

[Mr Magic]

With Gibcus I hope they leave him down back and allow him to settle into the position he looked most comfortable in during his first year. Much like what happened with Balta and before him Griffiths we don't want to start confusing the kid by throwing him back and forward and not letting him truly settle. IMO if we can get Balta Miller and Gibcus settled in the back line over the next 12-24 months we'll have the foundation of our back 6 for the next decade.

I don't get the desire to want to constantly reinvent players. First is was Balta that plenty wanted to turn into a forward and despite some brief signs of promise it quickly became apparent that he wasn't suited to playing up forward, it works fine as a pinch hit option to surprise opponents or change things up when we're struggling. Gibcus was drafted because he was arguably the best KPD in the draft in 2021 and he performed well enough to debut early on in the season and hold his spot for a fair part of the season. Now he needs to capitalise on that with him and have him spend another season, with Truck there to guide him, so that when the likes of Tarrant and Grimes move on sooner rather than later we're not then trying to find a replacement KPD when we've already got a few young ones with a bit of quality about them.

I am not trying to hype Gibcus but when was he uncomfortable forward?

To me Gibcus has a freak leap, good kick and good straight kick. In theory and his efforts at the SCG even for only a number of minutes, him hanging around half forward( we should all acknowledge its team football and we are not trying to take away from Lynch, JR and the others) is a bloody hard matchup for opponents.

Put it this way, I would prefer Sam Reid drifting around half forward than Gibcus if I was a back. Gibcus to me threatens the possibility of a number of goals as well as assists if I was defending him. Sam Reid is more a ruck/forward these days and I would not put Gibcus in the ruck.

Gibcus floats in the air more than Balta, I think he is a bigger marking threat than Balta in the forward line. Balta can mark to obviously but Balta uses his athleticism and power more and in that sense I think he is more suited as a back where he can win contests through strength and athleticism. I think Balta is a more natural key back even though he can rebound. Balta would be a little more like Lynch in how he would contest the ball in the forward line so less complimentary forward I think. This might come down to his vision to but Gibcus could be a more versatile marker able to mark in different ways and creating a bigger matchup problem for defences

Gibcus, without putting pressure on the guy, could be something more unique. He does not need to put massive weight on. He could drift around taking marks a bit like Royce Hart at half forward and simply see how he develops from there. I am not saying Gibcus will definitely be a super star forward like Royce but I think he has a few attributes that could help him a long way be very competitive in the forward line.

I would love to see Dusty CHF and Gibcus on a half forward flank. Dusty is the ground ball strength goal kicking maestro and Gibcus is more a aerial specialist that could really complement a Dusty at CHF or even a Taranto. I am not sure how oppositions would combat such a forward setup because it would allow Lynch to lead up from FF centrally without a key in the way while JR does his things with the small forward specialists.

The way Gibcus moves I am not sure he is definitely a back or forward. Having said this because he has such a great leap and is a good kick and good kick for goal he could be a dangerous addition to a forward line similar to a Gunston but in his own way. The trick is finding a role that works for the rest of the team making the overall combination better and more lethal. When I see Gibcus move I see lightness and composure for a guy his height. I think either way he is a matchup problem for oppositions because I think with Gibcus it will come down to smarts and craft and he will probably have to find his own way utilising his own strengths. The way Gibcus ends up playing would be slightly different than most and that is a good thing because we want him to maximise his strengths and compliment our teams other strengths. The thing is Gibcus brings the ball to ground eve without marking and Dusty and Bolton can swoop around half forward and be deadly dangerous. Also Gibcus gets the ball with his mobility and releases it to the likes of Bolton, Dusty and or Taranto and others in better positions and can opposition defences combat this effectively?

 

[RunningBounce]

Great draft guide from the Rookie Me Central crew.

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[jthanos]

I am not trying to hype Gibcus but when was he uncomfortable forward?

To me Gibcus has a freak leap, good kick and good straight kick. In theory and his efforts at the SCG even for only a number of minutes, him hanging around half forward( we should all acknowledge its team football and we are not trying to take away from Lynch, JR and the others) is a bloody hard matchup for opponents.

Put it this way, I would prefer Sam Reid drifting around half forward than Gibcus if I was a back. Gibcus to me threatens the possibility of a number of goals as well as assists if I was defending him. Sam Reid is more a ruck/forward these days and I would not put Gibcus in the ruck.

Gibcus floats in the air more than Balta, I think he is a bigger marking threat than Balta in the forward line. Balta can mark to obviously but Balta uses his athleticism and power more and in that sense I think he is more suited as a back where he can win contests through strength and athleticism. I think Balta is a more natural key back even though he can rebound. Balta would be a little more like Lynch in how he would contest the ball in the forward line so less complimentary forward I think. This might come down to his vision to but Gibcus could be a more versatile marker able to mark in different ways and creating a bigger matchup problem for defences

Gibcus, without putting pressure on the guy, could be something more unique. He does not need to put massive weight on. He could drift around taking marks a bit like Royce Hart at half forward and simply see how he develops from there. I am not saying Gibcus will definitely be a super star forward like Royce but I think he has a few attributes that could help him a long way be very competitive in the forward line.

I would love to see Dusty CHF and Gibcus on a half forward flank. Dusty is the ground ball strength goal kicking maestro and Gibcus is more a aerial specialist that could really complement a Dusty at CHF or even a Taranto. I am not sure how oppositions would combat such a forward setup because it would allow Lynch to lead up from FF centrally without a key in the way while JR does his things with the small forward specialists.

The way Gibcus moves I am not sure he is definitely a back or forward. Having said this because he has such a great leap and is a good kick and good kick for goal he could be a dangerous addition to a forward line similar to a Gunston but in his own way. The trick is finding a role that works for the rest of the team making the overall combination better and more lethal. When I see Gibcus move I see lightness and composure for a guy his height. I think either way he is a matchup problem for oppositions because I think with Gibcus it will come down to smarts and craft and he will probably have to find his own way utilising his own strengths. The way Gibcus ends up playing would be slightly different than most and that is a good thing because we want him to maximise his strengths and compliment our teams other strengths. The thing is Gibcus brings the ball to ground eve without marking and Dusty and Bolton can swoop around half forward and be deadly dangerous. Also Gibcus gets the ball with his mobility and releases it to the likes of Bolton, Dusty and or Taranto and others in better positions and can opposition defences combat this effectively?

Gibcus is a Lever clone, he will have the Grimes role as the interceptor in the backline. Premierships are built from defence. Once Grimes, Tarrant and Vlastuin have retired, he will be needed in defence. I can see the backline looking like this;

Gibcus Miller Brown
Short Balta Rioli

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Great draft guide from the Rookie Me Central crew.

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Few interesting ones.
Rating
#8-Cadman
#18-Humphrey

 

[Barunga Bullet]

Seems that you and I are regularly the only people around here, anywhere that like Treacy.

Seems to have a great attitude and work rate but it concerns me that Freo seemingly don’t rate him.

Using a high pick on Amiss and bringing in Corbett has me thinking I’m overrating him.

im with you. I rate him as well.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Gibcus is a Lever clone, he will have the Grimes role as the interceptor in the backline. Premierships are built from defence. Once Grimes, Tarrant and Vlastuin have retired, he will be needed in defence. I can see the backline looking like this;

Gibcus Miller Brown
Short Balta Rioli

Vlastuin still has 5 years left

 

[GoTigers2015]

Doesn't really fit a need but looks a good prospect in our draft range.




Models his game on [PLAYERCARD]Tim Taranto[/PLAYERCARD] apparently.

 

[cairo tiger]

Doesn't really fit a need but looks a good prospect in our draft range.

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Models his game on Tim Taranto apparently.

we dont need mids now. talls are our order.

 

[GoTigers2015]

we dont need mids now. talls are our order.

I know, but no point in getting a dud tall. The last decent tall forwards in the third round or later was in 2016.

In a shallow draft I would prefer that we draft a high risk / high reward player like Will Elliot if the other talls are spuds. It worked for Port when they drafted Georgiades who didn't play in matches due to injury in his draft year. He was rated higher than Will Elliot going into his draft year but still worth taking the risk on Elliot if the clubs doesn't rate any of the other KPF at our picks.

Matty Clarke on the Talking Tigers mentioned that the KPFs in SA and WA didn't have the year they would have liked for various reasons. Depends what the reasons are on whether we should consider them if they are available.

I hope there is a KPF or KPD available that we rate higher. If not a player like Hugh Bond might be a better option.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Was with some friends at a wedding last night and he has some connections in this space

Said we have spoken to this kid a couple of times during 2022

Archie Lovelock Draft Profile

Glenelg midfielder/forward Archie Lovelock impressed as a tough ball winner with good smarts and goal sense this year.

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[Toadvine]

we dont need mids now. talls are our order.

Blair always says...draft talent and trade for need.

We'll take best available.

 

[Wrenny]

Was with some friends at a wedding last night and he has some connections in this space

Said we have spoken to this kid a couple of times during 2022

Archie Lovelock Draft Profile

Glenelg midfielder/forward Archie Lovelock impressed as a tough ball winner with good smarts and goal sense this year.

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Did they say he was a lock? Or a Lovelock?