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List Mgmt. 2022 draft pool.

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Agree, don't go near a tall forward unless they have pace. So many gun U18 talls who go well at junior level due to the lack of tall backs generally but when they come up agains tall fast backs struggle because they can't get separation. Look at Boyd, Schache etc. and they were very high pics.

At least Bauer is pretty quick and really hits the ball hard in the air. Miller quick and a possibility. They don't have to be 198cm+. Plenty of good forward options around the 190-93cm mark, Membrey, Darling, Gunston.
bit tough on Boyd,handsome investment for the Dogs,got the flag and he was 1/2 metre left with his kick for his 3rd or 4th goal & from sewing the Norm Smith,thats elite,Schache on the hand is on the money
 
bit tough on Boyd,handsome investment for the Dogs,got the flag and he was 1/2 metre left with his kick for his 3rd or 4th goal & from sewing the Norm Smith,thats elite,Schache on the hand is on the money
Boyd was a number one pic and wasn't much chop all things considered. He had a great game in the GF for the dogs, but really not mobile enough to play that role that say the King boys do or even Carltons McKay. At our picks we will have to go for a roughy if we go tall but they will have to have something different about them, speed, great mark for size etc.
 
Agree, don't go near a tall forward unless they have pace. So many gun U18 talls who go well at junior level due to the lack of tall backs generally but when they come up agains tall fast backs struggle because they can't get separation. Look at Boyd, Schache etc. and they were very high pics.

At least Bauer is pretty quick and really hits the ball hard in the air. Miller quick and a possibility. They don't have to be 198cm+. Plenty of good forward options around the 190-93cm mark, Membrey, Darling, Gunston.
I like your assessment here. We need a KPF with pace/mobility and I don’t see one late in the draft. I’m interested, have you chosen a couple of kids in the draft that could fall to our first pick? Doesn’t matter what posi they play.
 

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I like your assessment here. We need a KPF with pace/mobility and I don’t see one late in the draft. I’m interested, have you chosen a couple of kids in the draft that could fall to our first pick? Doesn’t matter what posi they play.
Haven't seen enough to think about it, maybe the low draft number means wading through a lot of footage which I can't be bothered with this year. Didn't watch the Champs.

I was super keen on Gibcus and Balta in their drafts, but they were pretty obvious. Liked Miller because of his athleticism as a low pick, and it is starting to bear fruit. Bauer to me has real aggression in the air and at the ball and very sticky mitts, so he looks like he has some AFL tools. You look at Darling and that is his one wood. Mihocek is similar, you don't have to be a star if you have have the toughness or good physical attributes/speede, Gunston for example.

Our draft for this year will be someone who slips so far we can't ignore, or we take a punt on a kid with speed and size, Grimes, Broad, Miller, types.
 
Haven't seen enough to think about it, maybe the low draft number means wading through a lot of footage which I can't be bothered with this year. Didn't watch the Champs.

I was super keen on Gibcus and Balta in their drafts, but they were pretty obvious. Liked Miller because of his athleticism as a low pick, and it is starting to bear fruit. Bauer to me has real aggression in the air and at the ball and very sticky mitts, so he looks like he has some AFL tools. You look at Darling and that is his one wood. Mihocek is similar, you don't have to be a star if you have have the toughness or good physical attributes/speede, Gunston for example.

Our draft for this year will be someone who slips so far we can't ignore, or we take a punt on a kid with speed and size, Grimes, Broad, Miller, types.
I hope you’re right with the player we can’t ignore slipping to us. I however, looking at our list think we should target some wing types. McKintosh and Pickett are great types. They run all day, have height and help defend with 2 way running. We need to have a couple of these developing to take over in a couple of years time.
 
I hope you’re right with the player we can’t ignore slipping to us. I however, looking at our list think we should target some wing types. McKintosh and Pickett are great types. They run all day, have height and help defend with 2 way running. We need to have a couple of these developing to take over in a couple of years time.
Yes wingman are underrated. Pickett in particular might be in for a great season I reckon. I think Hugo is one in the waiting and Banks was very good in the VFL there. But you can't have too many of these, again pace, pace, pace. I always thought Hunt (Melbourne) was an average footballer but he developed into a weapon due to his pace once he found his feet. Plus Bryan Wood was my favourite as a kid, so would love to see another one running around. Had a soft spot for Gale out there to later on.
 
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Yes wingman are underrated. Pickett in particular might be in for a great season I reckon. I think Hugo is one in the waiting and Banks was very good in the VFL there. But you can't have too many of these, again pace, pace, pace. I always thought Hunt (Melbourne) was an average footballer but he developed into a weapon due to his pace one he found his feet. Plus Bryan Wood was my favourite as a kid, so would love to see another one running around. Had a soft spot for Gale out there to later on.

Jayden Hunt leads the league in 0 - 20m (2.8 seconds) and 0 - turnover (3.2 seconds). Elite at turnover by foot and by hand. He would be more useful if he ran around with his stupid headband covering his eyes.

I'm not a fan.
 
Jayden Hunt leads the league in 0 - 20m (2.8 seconds) and 0 - turnover (3.2 seconds). Elite at turnover by foot and by hand. He would be more useful if he ran around with his stupid headband covering his eyes.

I'm not a fan.
As you say a bit of a turnover merchant but the amount of time his speed gets Melbourne out of trouble and into attack was pretty impressive. Why I think Ralph Smith is a wingman in the making, a better more natural footballer, very quick and much stronger. Could be real weapon this year if he gets a good crack.
 
Yes wingman are underrated. Pickett in particular might be in for a great season I reckon. I think Hugo is one in the waiting and Banks was very good in the VFL there. But you can't have too many of these, again pace, pace, pace. I always thought Hunt (Melbourne) was an average footballer but he developed into a weapon due to his pace one he found his feet. Plus Bryan Wood was my favourite as a kid, so would love to see another one running around. Had a soft spot for Gale out there to later on.
You’re not getting Hunt and Langdon confused are you?
 
Good write up

…but if we recruit Tom Scully…can we change his name by deed poll…..to…Tim Skullboat..Tom Skillage….whatever

Just get both Adelaide boys remind pick 53 he is following in the foot steps of past great South Australians like Jack Graham. Getting 2 boys they can develop together, if we can turn one into an AFL player its a win.
 

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Interesting. Kid can play but has Stack levels of maturity and intelligence.

Not even close. Isn't this the guy who imprisoned and bashed his partner?
 
AFL Media’s draft guru Cal Twomey rates Bailey Humphrey as the sixth-best player in the draft. As it stands, Essendon has pick 4 and Gold Coast has pick 5 in the draft, while Hawthorn has the sixth selection.

Humphrey suggested those three clubs appear as the most likely destinations.

“During the year I had 17 out of the 18 clubs (talk to me), Richmond was the only club that didn’t talk to me,” he told SEN’s Dwayne’s World.


Clearly dont think Humphrey will last until 53
 

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AFL Media’s draft guru Cal Twomey rates Bailey Humphrey as the sixth-best player in the draft. As it stands, Essendon has pick 4 and Gold Coast has pick 5 in the draft, while Hawthorn has the sixth selection.

Humphrey suggested those three clubs appear as the most likely destinations.

“During the year I had 17 out of the 18 clubs (talk to me), Richmond was the only club that didn’t talk to me,” he told SEN’s Dwayne’s World.


Clearly dont think Humphrey will last until 53
Well rated as a top ten pick and every club has already spoken to him suggests he won't slide to pick 53.
 
I don't want us to pick a tall just because we currently "need" new talls. If the best player available at pick 53 is a midfielder then we should still go with the midfielder, why waste a pick on a possible dud forward just because we need one? You still wanna pick the best players you can.


EDIT: To expand on this, you can assume the caliber of talls available at pick 53 will be at the [PLAYERCARD]Todd Elton[/PLAYERCARD]-ish level. You'd have to get very lucky for one to end up later being anywhere near as good as Jack and Tom, pretty lucky for one to even end up as good as someone like [PLAYERCARD]Ben Brown[/PLAYERCARD] or [PLAYERCARD]Tom McDonald[/PLAYERCARD], but you're far more likely to draft one more along the lines of [PLAYERCARD]Todd Elton[/PLAYERCARD] or worse. So I ask, what is the point?

53 isn't amazing but your chances of getting a gun midfielder here are still much higher. There will be sliders too, or mature-age guys who have started racking up the footy at will at VFL level, who will potentially push for best 22 or at least be very good depth initially, putting more pressure on for spots and creating a strong squad.

Why just draft another [PLAYERCARD]Todd Elton[/PLAYERCARD] or [PLAYERCARD]Ryan Garthwaite[/PLAYERCARD] who won't make the 22 and won't improve the squad either?

So I reckon just go best available player, and wait to draft a tall until we have a better pick or a more "sure thing" available at whatever pick we have, and/or just trade in a capable forward (or a great one if things align) in the next couple of years.
 
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I don't want us to pick a tall just because we currently "need" new talls. If the best player available at pick 53 is a midfielder then we should still go with the midfielder, why waste a pick on a possible dud forward just because we need one? You still wanna pick the best players you can.


EDIT: To expand on this, you can assume the caliber of talls available at pick 53 will be at the Todd Elton-ish level. You'd have to get very lucky for one to end up later being anywhere near as good as Jack and Tom, pretty lucky for one to even end up as good as someone like Ben Brown or Tom McDonald, but you're far more likely to draft one more along the lines of Todd Elton or worse. So I ask, what is the point?

53 isn't amazing but your chances of getting a gun midfielder here are still much higher. There will be sliders too, or mature-age guys who have started racking up the footy at will at VFL level, who will potentially push for best 22 or at least be very good depth initially, putting more pressure on for spots and creating a strong squad.

Why just draft another Todd Elton or Ryan Garthwaite who won't make the 22 and won't improve the squad either?

So I reckon just go best available player, and wait to draft a tall until we have a better pick or a more "sure thing" available at whatever pick we have, and/or just trade in a capable forward (or a great one if things align) in the next couple of years.

I'm inclined to agree.

Except that if it really is as weak a draft year as we've been told then we will have mostly low likelihood types to choose from. So picking a high potential tall is possibly worth it. I'll follow whatever our draft team thinks. No idea this year as I usually focus on the top 20-30 and we ain't got no picks thereabouts. After that you have to know your stuff, and that isn't this little black duck.

I'd guess that we leave free spot/s and invite someone/people to train with us and see who looks likely. Perhaps a couple of undrafted talls, with talent but no certainty.

interesting year. We've already won the trade/draft period in my book. Whoever we get at picks 53, 77 and 119 is a bonus.
 
Said it before, I'm really not concerned who we draft at 53. In all likelihood the kid will be in our system for 2 years, then rookied then delisted.

That's the reality.

We are better off grabbing someone who has potential to be anything, if it's a bust, so be it.
 
I don't want us to pick a tall just because we currently "need" new talls. If the best player available at pick 53 is a midfielder then we should still go with the midfielder, why waste a pick on a possible dud forward just because we need one? You still wanna pick the best players you can.


EDIT: To expand on this, you can assume the caliber of talls available at pick 53 will be at the Todd Elton-ish level. You'd have to get very lucky for one to end up later being anywhere near as good as Jack and Tom, pretty lucky for one to even end up as good as someone like Ben Brown or Tom McDonald, but you're far more likely to draft one more along the lines of Todd Elton or worse. So I ask, what is the point?

53 isn't amazing but your chances of getting a gun midfielder here are still much higher. There will be sliders too, or mature-age guys who have started racking up the footy at will at VFL level, who will potentially push for best 22 or at least be very good depth initially, putting more pressure on for spots and creating a strong squad.

Why just draft another Todd Elton or Ryan Garthwaite who won't make the 22 and won't improve the squad either?

So I reckon just go best available player, and wait to draft a tall until we have a better pick or a more "sure thing" available at whatever pick we have, and/or just trade in a capable forward (or a great one if things align) in the next couple of years.
It's a reasonable argument against taking a tall just because we need one, but with the 4 picks we have that late in the draft and the success we've had in recent years in nailing late picks why not roll the dice and take 1-2 low risk/high reward KPF types and give them an opportunity to become an AFL calibre KPF. We've got nothing to lose in doing so, but so much more to gain. We don't need someone who is going to be a multi time AA or one of the all time greats, we just need someone who can play at a consistent level week to week as the support act firstly to Lynch and then down the track a bonafide number 1 target that we go after in free agency when Lynch has moved on.
 
Haha this is spot on.
“He (Dodoro) will throw out stuff everywhere just to upset everyone else because they don’t know what they’re doing."
Is Dodoro using they as his pronoun?
 

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