List Mgmt. 2022 draft pool.

[Wavvey]

These two lads fit perfectly with the young players under 21. Genuine x factor and footskills the lot of them. Bauer, Rioli, Ryan, Brown, Banks, Clarke, Sonse, Gibcus and now Green and Smith, is genuinely balanced mix covering every postion on the ground including key backs and forwards

Great post. The club has done a fantastic job adjusting their draft boards for the new rules. With the stand rule and the way the game is moving you need speed, foot skills and toughness and they’ve identified that and drafted exactly that the past two years.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

So are balta and Gibcus, Wembanyama level?

To just stop drafting bigs seems a bit extreme?

I think this is a fair point you make. I think in Balta’s case the club saw exceptional traits and would have thought they had time to develop him with Rance and Astbury and Riewoldt and clearly Lynch in the pipeline. But he was up and running pretty well by year 3. Gibcus again you see exceptional traits, you grab the player in the draft. He looked good enough to play from day one to the point where his body could cope with the workload. But by year 3 you expect he can hold down a key position without needing to be placed to advantage. Chol, Coleman-Jones, these are the cautionary tales to some extent.

Of course you need to draft some KPP and rucks. The argument probably comes down to how many you carry on your list at any given time. If you carry one or two too many you are in danger of developing them for other clubs, but not even having the ability to give them a proper position in the VFL. If you don’t, you are in danger of being thin in those positions if you get a rash of injuries. The whole thing probably hinges on 1 or 2 extra tall players.

In 2023, when they are all fit, we probably have:

AFL

Tarrant, Balta, Grimes to cover tall opposition forwards

Lynch, Riewoldt, as key forwards.

Nankervis as first ruck

Miller as second ruck/forward.

We already have Gibcus spare.

VFL

Nyuon, Gibcus, and probably a 3rd KPD in the rookie draft

Colina and Bauer key forwards.

Soldo as first ruck.

Ryan as second ruck/forward.

We can all see the backup key forwards in the VFL look shaky prospects for now at least at AFL level. To me every other tall position looks adequately covered. But for 2023 say Lynch gets injured, there are some viable looking options. Miller, Gibcus or Balta could play as a key forward at a pinch. Ryan could step in as second ruck/forward. Or the team could take the field with one key forward and a second ruck/forward plus Martin, Bolton, Cumberland, Rioli Jnr and say Graham making up the forward line. It is a very strong forward line, it is not compulsory to have 3 talls down there. Drafting Tom Scully or whoever last night isn’t going to help us in any way in 2023, it simply hinders the development of either the newly drafted player or Bauer, Colina, Ryan or someone.

At the end of 2023, likely Riewoldt retires then is the time to draft or trade for a new KPP, and shuffle around the existing players to suit. And we will at least have a second round pick and a future second round pick to facilitate the trading or drafting of someone who suits our needs.

 

[_RT_]

Anyone know if Pickett actually got upgraded during the rookie upgrade period last night.

 

[RunningBounce]

So, from here, maybe we take two rookies? I'm count 35 on the primary list, including the two newbies. I'm tipping we upgrade Pickett. Maybe Miller.

There's some kids with good junior credentials left on the board:

All Australians from the u18 National Champs (best 23 on performance):

• Jed Hagan
• Adam D'Aloia

AIS Academy (best 30 or so prospects as judged in 2021):

• Jason Gillbee
• Jed Hagan
• Mitch Szybkowski
• Anthony Munkara (Essendon)
• Luke Teal

Hagan's a tough WA kid, so our type, and Gillbee is a running machine, so again, our type.

D'Aloia, Szybkowski and Teal are all decent sized inside mids. The AFL fashion might be leaving these kids on the shelf, despite the fact they are very good footballers. I don't get it, but there's plenty about drafting I don't get.

Tom Scully

21

Tom Scully

Age

34

Ht

181cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

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20.7

5star

K

9.9

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.5

5star

CL

2.3

4star

D

12.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

5.1

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.1

2star

CL

0.8

3star

D

19.8

5star

K

8.8

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

4.6

5star

CL

3.8

5star

as a developing tall? A state league smokey? Recycle a delisted free agent?

 

[tiger_tough]

What the club says:

"Kaleb caught our eye with his elite leg speed and ability to open up the game from the back half. He also demonstrated terrific forward craft playing for Wesley College and proved to be a difficult match up with his aerial ability and nous around goal. Steely is super clean inside and can also get outside the contest with real zip. He wins his own football and brings others into the game. We think he can also play multiple roles in our system with his versatility." - Richmond recruiting boss Matt Clarke.

UPDATED: The full rundown on every club's 2022 draft haul

Take a look at who your club picked up in this year's national and rookie drafts, and hear what club recruiters had to say

www.afl.com.au

 

[tigs2010]

So, from here, maybe we take two rookies? I'm count 35 on the primary list, including the two newbies. I'm tipping we upgrade Pickett. Maybe Miller.

There's some kids with good junior credentials left on the board:

All Australians from the u18 National Champs (best 23 on performance):

• Jed Hagan
• Adam D'Aloia

AIS Academy (best 30 or so prospects as judged in 2021):

• Jason Gillbee
• Jed Hagan
• Mitch Szybkowski
• Anthony Munkara (Essendon)
• Luke Teal

Hagan's a tough WA kid, so our type, and Gillbee is a running machine, so again, our type.

D'Aloia, Szybkowski and Teal are all decent sized inside mids. The AFL fashion might be leaving these kids on the shelf, despite the fact they are very good footballers. I don't get it, but there's plenty about drafting I don't get.

Tom Scully as a developing tall? A state league smokey? Recycle a delisted free agent?

Scully went last night

 

[Smythe]

So, from here, maybe we take two rookies? I'm count 35 on the primary list, including the two newbies. I'm tipping we upgrade Pickett. Maybe Miller.

There's some kids with good junior credentials left on the board:

All Australians from the u18 National Champs (best 23 on performance):

• Jed Hagan
• Adam D'Aloia

AIS Academy (best 30 or so prospects as judged in 2021):

• Jason Gillbee
• Jed Hagan
• Mitch Szybkowski
• Anthony Munkara (Essendon)
• Luke Teal

Hagan's a tough WA kid, so our type, and Gillbee is a running machine, so again, our type.

D'Aloia, Szybkowski and Teal are all decent sized inside mids. The AFL fashion might be leaving these kids on the shelf, despite the fact they are very good footballers. I don't get it, but there's plenty about drafting I don't get.

Tom Scully as a developing tall? A state league smokey? Recycle a delisted free agent?

Bit hard to rookie a drafted player in Scully. It may be recycled or state league. If it’s a young player I would suggest it may be a small fwd with pressure and aggression. If it’s a tall and Freo don’t prelist/rookie nominate him, Jasper Scaife would be perfect. I have liked teal for 2 years but he needs to play some footy and see what growth he has made, probably a mid season or train on chance at clubs, same as Sam gilbey.

 

[YeOldTiger]

Your wife sounds extremely fond of Steely have you ever considered ……..

I think I should be more worried about the PT ! Can't trust those buggers !

 

[Charlie Pannam]

How the hell did the Bumbers get away with listing Anthony Munkara as a Cat B rookie
Thought he’d have been a rookie chance for us

 

[Smythe]

How the hell did the Bumbers get away with listing Anthony Munkara as a Cat B rookie
Thought he’d have been a rookie chance for us

Was ess nga, never a chance to be rookied by anyone but ess.

 

[RunningBounce]

Bit hard to rookie a drafted player in Scully. It may be recycled or state league. If it’s a young player I would suggest it may be a small fwd with pressure and aggression. If it’s a tall and Freo don’t prelist/rookie nominate him, Jasper Scaife would be perfect. I have liked teal for 2 years but he needs to play some footy and see what growth he has made, probably a mid season or train on chance at clubs, same as Sam gilbey.

As someone whose being watching the draft game longer than me, what do you think is happening with D'Aloia and Szybkowski? Wouldn't be many 6 foot inside mids with their junior track record who go undrafted 5 years ago. Could potentially put Taj Campbell-Farrell in that category too. Pretty handy NAB League season and not even a Vic Country spot.

Is it individual deficiencies and different for each kid? Or is there a trend now where speed is critical and the "big bodied mids" in favour 5 years ago aren't a chance today?

 

[Blinger]

The interesting thing with the 2 boys we drafted, they were both included in Kevin Sheehan top 40 kids to be drafted.
Kevin Sheehan reveals his top 40 prospects in the 2022 NAB AFL Draft

 

[fargothegreat]

3 spots open for the rookie draft today. My tip is we take two and leave a spot open for preseason.

 

[Lord of the Wings]

3 spots open for the rookie draft today. My tip is we take two and leave a spot open for preseason.

Any chance we are redrafting Stack?

We better not redraft Martyn. He is a spud

 

[tigs2010]

The interesting thing with the 2 boys we drafted, they were both included in Kevin Sheehan top 40 kids to be drafted.
Kevin Sheehan reveals his top 40 prospects in the 2022 NAB AFL Draft

Kev has re-done his list post draft and neither of them are in his top 100. Same with the ESPN guy

 

[tigs2010]

Any chance we are redrafting Stack?

We better not redraft Martyn. He is a spud

Have heard we won't redraft any of them.

 

[chriso11]

The club went with the best players available at our picks, we’ve got 2 more promising youngsters to add to our so-called “aging” list. Smith looks like he has all the tools to be a damaging player. Green looks like a typical Richmond pickup in that his size and physique might have pushed him down the order, but his toughness and leadership are highlights. I’d also have loved us to pick up a key forward but I will back us to secure one via trade / free agency, since we’ve been so good at using that channel over the last years. Also since the type of key forward we need is minimum a top 10 pick… and that would mean either we have a poor year or somehow a father son miraculously lands in our lap (none on the radar it seems)

 

[Charlie Pannam]

Was ess nga, never a chance to be rookied by anyone but ess.

Get the NGA link
But don’t you have to use a normal rookie draft pick? Cat B selections sit outside the list. Gives them another rookie spot

 

[Smythe]

As someone whose being watching the draft game longer than me, what do you think is happening with D'Aloia and Szybkowski? Wouldn't be many 6 foot inside mids with their junior track record who go undrafted 5 years ago. Could potentially put Taj Campbell-Farrell in that category too. Pretty handy NAB League season and not even a Vic Country spot.

Is it individual deficiencies and different for each kid? Or is there a trend now where speed is critical and the "big bodied mids" in favour 5 years ago aren't a chance today?

Agility and athleticism. They all lack it along with speed, very very good footballers. The only surprise for me was Szybkowski not getting a spot, but once the teams gets the best available who they want in the first one and a half rounds, it falls to needs for developing reasons, and blokes like that get overlooked. Campbell-farrel got injured and missed a bit and was also way behind the pecking order at Vic c. D’Aloia may get rookied by someone And szybkowski may also get rookied (maybe gws).

 

[Smythe]

Get the NGA link
But don’t you have to use a normal rookie draft pick? Cat B selections sit outside the list. Gives them another rookie spot

There was an amendment a while back stating that draft eligible academy players who don’t go in the ND can be automatically nominated to be prelisted on the cat b list for the designated clubs. In this instance, Essendon.

 

[Charlie Pannam]

Green has quick hands and from his highlights package follows up after giving off the handball
The small amount of vision I saw of him reminded me of Nathan Foley

Nathan Foley

Age

40

Ht

178cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.4

5star

K

9.3

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

3.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

6.8

5star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.6

5star

Just heard on SEN that Steely got struck by lightning a couple of years ago while sailing

 

[Groupie_]

just got word that we are rookie listing stack today

great work by stacky to win the trust of the club again

 

[Wrenny]

Hey Smythe

What are your thoughts on the 2 picks we made?

Also assuming we take 2 rookies today, do you have a rundown on which clubs are commited to which players eg Carlton taking Ed Curnow.

Who would you like us to rookie?

 

[fargothegreat]

Any chance we are redrafting Stack?

We better not redraft Martyn. He is a spud

I reckon Stack's only chance is as a train-on player, and probably at another club rather than us.

Martyn's only chance is if there is a freak accident and half the list is killed.

 

[Vitalogy]

Quinton Narkle

19

Quinton Narkle

Age

28

Ht

182cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

6.9

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

4star

D

11.4

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.6

4star

G

0.0

1star

D

12.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

0.8

4star

a sniff to be rookied by us?