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How could they not be happy with McStay!

But unfortunately none of the KPFs this year are bringing that to date, although I think Jefferson is the best contested mark of the bunch

Anyone who believes Jefferson’s body type will make it doesn’t pay too much attention. He’ll be harder to turn into a KPF than McMahon was. Way too slight and not even big enough. If he was 200cm maybe there would be something to work with. At 195cm. No thanks.


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Anyone who believes Jefferson’s body type will make it doesn’t pay too much attention. He’ll be harder to turn into a KPF than McMahon was. Way too slight and not even big enough. If he was 200cm maybe there would be something to work with. At 195cm. No thanks.


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I agree. It's a big risk for anyone to take him in the first round, to be honest, I rate Keeler and Lemmey ahead of him. If this draft had any sort of decent tall forwards he wouldn't even be in the top 40
 
Anyone who believes Jefferson’s body type will make it doesn’t pay too much attention. He’ll be harder to turn into a KPF than McMahon was. Way too slight and not even big enough. If he was 200cm maybe there would be something to work with. At 195cm. No thanks.


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I think there's a role for most types of players at the next level if you have the skills, athleticism and commitment required, and we can see that Jefferson at least has the first two locked in. Hard to find consistent contested marks at junior ranks as well, and generally those that are find a way to be decent at AFL level

He may not end up a number 1 KPF like a lot of people will want, but he's got a nice skillset to suggest he'll be a handy forward when at full flight, and to be honest there's a lot of worse 195 cm+ blokes getting games regularly at AFL level to suggest that clubs are just looking at height to fill a role at times.
 
I think there's a role for most types of players at the next level if you have the skills, athleticism and commitment required, and we can see that Jefferson at least has the first two locked in. Hard to find consistent contested marks at junior ranks as well, and generally those that are find a way to be decent at AFL level

He may not end up a number 1 KPF like a lot of people will want, but he's got a nice skillset to suggest he'll be a handy forward when at full flight, and to be honest there's a lot of worse 195 cm+ blokes getting games regularly at AFL level to suggest that clubs are just looking at height to fill a role at times.

You’ve probably seen my ongoing criticism of Jefferson Bangers.

Principally I’m worried that outside of shots at the goals his disposal count is just too low. He doesn’t seem able to really get involved otherwise. Particularly compared to Cadman.

Do you think that’s a reasonable criticism?

Maybe it’s something he could build into his game, ala Jack Riewoldt’s second half of his career.
 

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You’ve probably seen my ongoing criticism of Jefferson Bangers.

Principally I’m worried that outside of shots at the goals his disposal count is just too low. He doesn’t seem able to really get involved otherwise. Particularly compared to Cadman.

Do you think that’s a reasonable criticism?

Maybe it’s something he could build into his game, ala Jack Riewoldt’s second half of his career.
Keep going with this nonsense, Cal Twomey has described Jefferson as a Harry Jones type (and Harry's a good player) it's just so ignorant to suggest he won't turn into Jonathon Brown when he's not that guy. Anyone with just a rudimentary understanding of talent should be able to get that. He's more than capable of producing what Jack Gunstan does and that's why he'll be in demand. It's clear from the profiling of some they've never taken the time to watch him play.
 
I agree. It's a big risk for anyone to take him in the first round, to be honest, I rate Keeler and Lemmey ahead of him. If this draft had any sort of decent tall forwards he wouldn't even be in the top 40
Got news for you, Jefferson will go in the first round and Keeler and Lemmey won't because one, he's a much better player and two, he has produced, have a look at the AA team. And playing the championship decider with a fracture in his leg didn't hurt either.
 
Elijah Hewett is a first class stud. If that kid is around at our pick 16. I don’t care if they don’t take any others.


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The way I look at the draft board at the moment is if he gets past WCE, we could get him with our pick. Hopefully there’s 2 WA boys at 12 for the Eagles, and they choose the other.
 
It's clear from the profiling of some they've never taken the time to watch him play.

Well my opinion is that you haven’t watched a single minute of junior footy for the year to make your own personal assessment.

Simply that you just base your opinions on those of others, without the slightest skerrick of original thought… and try to palm it off as the ‘truth’…
 
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Got news for you, Jefferson will go in the first round and Keeler and Lemmey won't because one, he's a much better player and two, he has produced, have a look at the AA team. And playing the championship decider with a fracture in his leg didn't hurt either.
Good luck to whoever get's him because he won't be the big, strong, pack crashing forward that everyone wants on here. He won't play seniors for 3 years because he doesn't have the body. As I said, in a better draft year he would be a late second rounder
 
Got news for you, Jefferson will go in the first round and Keeler and Lemmey won't because one, he's a much better player and two, he has produced, have a look at the AA team. And playing the championship decider with a fracture in his leg didn't hurt either.

I suspect it did hurt.
 
Good luck to whoever get's him because he won't be the big, strong, pack crashing forward that everyone wants on here. He won't play seniors for 3 years because he doesn't have the body. As I said, in a better draft year he would be a late second rounder
My advice to you is watch him play because you clearly haven't. There wouldn't be one club who classifies him as a pack bursting contested marking beast which is what you're ripping him for. He'll be an outstanding 3rd tall forward and debut well before 3 years is up which is one on the more ridiculous things I've read, I just can't take that seriously.
 
I totally disagree with the criticism of Jefferson.

Main issues:
1/. Not big enough body.
Weight
Weighed in at 76kg (draft Central) and 78kg (AFL.com). I believe he weighed in at 84kg at the combine.
Nick Riewoldt weighed 81kg when drafted.
Jack Riewoldt 85kg.
Ben Reid 82kg.
James Frawley 81kg.
Jack Gunston 74kg.
James Sicily 76kg
Height
He is 195cm
Nick Riewoldt 193cm.
Jack Riewoldt 193cm.
Ben Reid 195cm.
James Frawley 193cm.
Jack Gunston 193cm.
James Sicily 185cm.
2/. Not high enough numbers
Yes he doesn't get high disposals but he does have great team attitude and tackles and smothers to lock the ball in the forward line.
3/. Other. I note he was injured towards the back end of the season.
 
My advice to you is watch him play because you clearly haven't. There wouldn't be one club who classifies him as a pack bursting contested marking beast which is what you're ripping him for. He'll be an outstanding 3rd tall forward and debut well before 3 years is up which is one on the more ridiculous things I've read, I just can't take that seriously.
You''l be surprised who I've seen play and on more than one occasion. I'm very confident on my assessment. By the way, now you have him as a third tall, that's a bit of a drop.
 

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You’ve probably seen my ongoing criticism of Jefferson Bangers.

Principally I’m worried that outside of shots at the goals his disposal count is just too low. He doesn’t seem able to really get involved otherwise. Particularly compared to Cadman.

Do you think that’s a reasonable criticism?

Maybe it’s something he could build into his game, ala Jack Riewoldt’s second half of his career.
Yeah absolutely, whether that's a personal fitness thing or more of a system thing is my main question for it, he's always the deep target for a chargers and Metro. He has shown he can get up the ground well enough when given a chance, so I'm more inclined to think it's mostly system.

Although I do think his defensive stuff inside 50 is as good as Cadmans tbh, it's a pretty underrated part of his game
 
I totally disagree with the criticism of Jefferson.

Main issues:
1/. Not big enough body.
Weight
Weighed in at 76kg (draft Central) and 78kg (AFL.com). I believe he weighed in at 84kg at the combine.
Nick Riewoldt weighed 81kg when drafted.
Jack Riewoldt 85kg.
Ben Reid 82kg.
James Frawley 81kg.
Jack Gunston 74kg.
James Sicily 76kg
Height
He is 195cm
Nick Riewoldt 193cm.
Jack Riewoldt 193cm.
Ben Reid 195cm.
James Frawley 193cm.
Jack Gunston 193cm.
James Sicily 185cm.
2/. Not high enough numbers
Yes he doesn't get high disposals but he does have great team attitude and tackles and smothers to lock the ball in the forward line.
3/. Other. I note he was injured towards the back end of the season.
doesn't scream power forward
 
doesn't scream power forward
We play team first football with everyone doing a role of tackling, chasing, etc.

Do you want a power forward who is 200cm and not mobile enough to apply defensive pressure say Charlie Dixon, Peter Wright or Rory Lobb?

Anyway I'm going to stop banging on about Jefferson as everyone should know I am a fan by now.

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I'll be your opposite.
Keeler to go mid to late 20's in the draft.
Jefferson and Cadman my favourites to go mid to late first round.

Lets see how we go and they go at the champs.
 
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You''l be surprised who I've seen play and on more than one occasion. I'm very confident on my assessment. By the way, now you have him as a third tall, that's a bit of a drop.
I don't believe your have, you stick with rating Keeler and Lemmey ahead of Jefferson, you're in for a rude shock on draft night(s) And I've never thought of Jefferson as a monster key forward so I'd appreciate you not putting words in my mouth. People who do that know they're going to lose.
 
I totally disagree with the criticism of Jefferson.

Main issues:
1/. Not big enough body.
Weight
Weighed in at 76kg (draft Central) and 78kg (AFL.com). I believe he weighed in at 84kg at the combine.
Nick Riewoldt weighed 81kg when drafted.
Jack Riewoldt 85kg.
Ben Reid 82kg.
James Frawley 81kg.
Jack Gunston 74kg.
James Sicily 76kg
Height
He is 195cm
Nick Riewoldt 193cm.
Jack Riewoldt 193cm.
Ben Reid 195cm.
James Frawley 193cm.
Jack Gunston 193cm.
James Sicily 185cm.
2/. Not high enough numbers
Yes he doesn't get high disposals but he does have great team attitude and tackles and smothers to lock the ball in the forward line.
3/. Other. I note he was injured towards the back end of the season.
I'm going to back him in if we pick him and consider him a dud if we don't.
 

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Yep. Interesting stuff. Wasn't there interest in Poulter from Suns, could of got him a new home and gotten something in return 🤔
I think Poulter was only kept on the list until trade period because they were trying to get him a new home. His manager did an interview during trade week basically saying that he just wanted to get Poulter on a list - any list. He might get a chance to train with a club with a hope of preseason listing.
 
Poulter, Madgen and Murley off the senior lists means we are definitely looking to use our three main picks IMO.
I think it means that we have to add 4 senior listed players - at least 3 in the draft and either a 4th in the draft or a DFA.
 
I think it means that we have to add 4 senior listed players - at least 3 in the draft and either a 4th in the draft or a DFA.

Be Either Nobel or Ginnivan
 

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