Preview 2022 draft prospects

[Chrispiesssss]

won’t be able to tell you here.

Why not?

 

[No SPIN]

I had concerns with Jeffersons size until someone listed a more recent weight of 84kg's.
At that size and frame he is similar to Jye Amiss at FREO.

For those in the know, how do they compare as players (goal kcking accuracy aside which is the a clear strength of Amiss)?

 

[cityslick1]

Do you have a reference for this? I followed that draft really closely and remember no such comment.

This is From the AFL website. And heard him ref selwood in more detail on a podcast at the time. Reckon it was also a nod to the fact that we would’ve taken selwood if not selected before Ben Reid, and would’ve been proven right…

 

[Apex36]

Really closely? This is From the AFL website. And heard him ref selwood in more detail on a podcast at the time. Reckon it was also a nod to the fact that we would’ve taken selwood if not selected before Ben Reid, and would’ve been proven right…

Yeah, really closely. Thanks for that, the first dig was unnecessary, because it was a legitimate question I was asking and there was no malice in the post. Looks like he was just referencing Joel Selwood as an example of a player with an injury cloud, rather than specifically knee issues, which makes more sense.

 

[cityslick1]

I really love watching strong marking key position forwards mark.
Checkers is the best we’ve had since Cloke.
I really hope we add a couple.
I know they’re not as fashionable, but it’s what the crowds love to see.

So I’m still hoping we go for Keeler and Lemmey in that order. (Although I do like the sound of Hayes & Barnet) And I admit that I know little about prospects compared to many here.

I’m not into anymore risks on NQR afflicted players; Scharenberg and Stevo killed that for me.

And a good midget is not as good as a good medium sized player. So I’m dubious on any player under 180cms.
But god bless Jamie Elliott.

Derek Hine, Alan Shepherd and Geoff Brown will all be at Club42 in a couple of weeks.
Be interesting to hear what they share.
But I won’t be able to tell you here.

Adelaide swapping pick 23 to North could also free up one of the SA boys we are interested in in the late 20’s…

Terrible trade by North btw

 

[cityslick1]

Yeah, really closely. Thanks for that, the first dig was unnecessary, because it was a legitimate question I was asking and there was no malice in the post. Looks like he was just referencing Joel Selwood as an example of a player with an injury cloud, rather than specifically knee issues, which makes more sense.

Fair enough, I will delete

 

[cityslick1]

At 189cm Ollie Henry was undersized as a FWD and George is only 186cm.

So what X factor above and beyond Ollie, does he have to suggest he’ll make it despite lacking height.

Toby greene is only 182cm FWIW. Ollie doesn’t need to be the benchmark. Diff players

 

[Masked Magician]

At 189cm Ollie Henry was undersized as a FWD and George is only 186cm.

So what X factor above and beyond Ollie, does he have to suggest he’ll make it despite lacking height.

He will be a gun mid at AFL level

 

[partypie]

I think we might be hoping to take that WA ruck who's rated quite highly in the draft. If we take him, go with 4 players in the draft. If we don't take him, 3 in the draft and go with an SSP ruck and upgrade a rookie.

I don't think we can do that either - rookie upgrades need to be submitted by final list lodgement prior to the ND don't they?

 

[KinderSmock]

This is From the AFL website. And heard him ref selwood in more detail on a podcast at the time. Reckon it was also a nod to the fact that we would’ve taken selwood if not selected before Ben Reid, and would’ve been proven right…

Shaz was clearly one of the best prospects of his class. He was injured but had the talent to make it. Freeman was another bust and we were burned by his off-field performance. Weirdly, we could recruit him back to the club, although he seems content as a player manager these days.

 

[sr36]

I don't think we can do that either - rookie upgrades need to be submitted by final list lodgement prior to the ND don't they?

No idea about that. If true, we might be looking at a definite 4 in the draft, unless their real reason for moving Murley isnt to create a list spot, but is the hope that someone rookies him before we do, in which case they may promote another rookie.

 

[Wearmouth]

For the first time in almost 30yrs+ of the draft I have full faith in the people running our football department.

From the point of what they’ve done since coming in over these past 2yrs and last seasons efforts.

I can unequivocally say that I trust the decisions they will be making in this years draft. Just as I have trusted the calls they have made on certain players. The delistings this year. And more importantly the inclusions brought in.

They have demonstrated that they are only interested in succeeding. And I’m certain that they will be working with Hine in directing the type of players needed by our coaching team to achieve their goals. Whomever they choose, will be best available in accordance with the directives from the coaching team.

It feels really good not to have to worry about this. Now I am fully aware that mistakes can be made. However, after experiencing the changes from this seasons efforts. I at least know we are on the correct path.

I suspect a midfielder, a KPD and a Ruckman are on the cards. But hey what the f$&@k do I know. I’ll leave it in Fly’s hands and enjoy the ride.


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[No SPIN]

Toby greene is only 182cm FWIW. Ollie doesn’t need to be the benchmark. Diff players

Toby is the exception not the rule.

 

[No SPIN]

He will be a gun mid at AFL level

Why?

 

[The Royal Sampler]

At 189cm Ollie Henry was undersized as a FWD and George is only 186cm.

So what X factor above and beyond Ollie, does he have to suggest he’ll make it despite lacking height.

Maybe he can pick up the ball below his knees, chase, tackle, burn opponents off… that sort of thing?

 

[manicpie]

So true, how many people got uber excited when a Scully or Keeler kicked a bag in the Sanfl u18's and it's up against the poor old 5'8 kid playing fullback for Central Districts.

I don't see any Victorian KP defenders listed in the top 30 except for Hayes. There are plenty of tall Defenders in SA who are just as average as the tall defenders in Victoria or any other state for that matter, so your point is really pretty average

 

[sr36]

For the first time in almost 30yrs+ of the draft I have full faith in the people running our football department.

From the point of what they’ve done since coming in over these past 2yrs and last seasons efforts.

I can unequivocally say that I trust the decisions they will be making in this years draft. Just as I have trusted the calls they have made on certain players. The delistings this year. And more importantly the inclusions brought in.

They have demonstrated that they are only interested in succeeding. And I’m certain that they will be working with Hine in directing the type of players needed by our coaching team to achieve their goals. Whomever they choose, will be best available in accordance with the directives from the coaching team.

It feels really good not to have to worry about this. Now I am fully aware that mistakes can be made. However, after experiencing the changes from this seasons efforts. I at least know we are on the correct path.

I suspect a midfielder, a KPD and a Ruckman are on the cards. But hey what the f$&@k do I know. I’ll leave it in Fly’s hands and enjoy the ride.


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I think Dekkas criteria just needed a bit of a tweak - too many skinny agile talls taken late and too many one paced smalls and mediums taken in the middle section of the draft. Fingers crossed that we've adjusted the criteria

 

[partypie]

No idea about that. If true, we might be looking at a definite 4 in the draft, unless their real reason for moving Murley isnt to create a list spot, but is the hope that someone rookies him before we do, in which case they may promote another rookie.

Pretty sure it's been the case since 2015 or 2016 - rookie elevations just need to be submitted to AFL pre-draft and they're not included in the actual draft.

 

[sr36]

Pretty sure it's been the case since 2015 or 2016 - rookie elevations just need to be submitted to AFL pre-draft and they're not included in the actual draft.

Yep, I appreciate that they no longer are a token draft pick to elevate, but back when there was an actual distinction regarding playing eligibility - between rookie and main list player - they used to sometimes upgrade someone from rookie to main list in the preseason - it's whether that is still possible.

 

[cityslick1]

Toby is the exception not the rule.

Like Toby, George is a top ten talent amongst hundreds of draft hopefuls, so isn’t he an exception as well…

 

[partypie]

Yep, I appreciate that they no longer are a token draft pick to elevate, but back when there was an actual distinction regarding playing eligibility - between rookie and main list player - they used to sometimes upgrade someone from rookie to main list in the preseason - it's whether that is still possible.

Pre- or rather mid-season rookie "elevations" have been a thing of the past since the rules around rookies playing have been relaxed a number of years ago.
Any time a club loses a player to an LTI for the season it effectively opens up a "top-up" rookie list spot which can be filled by one of the now available mechanisms, SSP or MSD.

I guess time will tell if we are looking at a DFA pick up prior to the draft, because one would think it would be manifestly difficult for us to secure a viable AFL prospect in a position of need who may slide out of the ND using pick 16 in the PSD, as anyone in that category would surely come to the attention of multiple clubs and either be snapped up late in the ND or before our pick in the PSD.

 

[Wearmouth]

I think Dekkas criteria just needed a bit of a tweak - too many skinny agile talls taken late and too many one paced smalls and mediums taken in the middle section of the draft. Fingers crossed that we've adjusted the criteria

He hasn’t realized through the drafts that we need speed. And a KPF. How many drafts to we go through without even trying to get one. Yet the Dawks have managed to stockpile them.

I think just like Grundy, Hine has been told the needs of the Coach and his game plan. Now let’s see if he matches the needs based trading GW provided.

This Draft will determine his further need. Missing on the likes of Cripps is something you need to be held to task over. Especially when there are too 10 picks.


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[No SPIN]

Like Toby, George is a top ten talent amongst hundreds of draft hopefuls, so isn’t he an exception as well…

Yes - If you genuinely believe he has TG’s talent.
I’ve not heard any consensus on that level of talent for George.

 

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[magpies42]

Any chance trade up into the top 10?