List Mgmt. 2022 Draft Thread - Part I

[George]

Sticking this at the top of each page. If it gets annoying, let me know and I can just put it in the original post of the thread. Credit to Lore

 

[FrogDude]

What a surprise Sydney, GCS etc continue to benefit from their academies. At what point do the same rules apply to their academies as other clubs?

To be fair, the Gold Coast academy hasn't really given them much. One top 10 pick who is now at another club and that's about it.

 

[sammm]

What a surprise Sydney, GCS etc continue to benefit from their academies. At what point do the same rules apply to their academies as other clubs?

isn't that why they brought in the next generation academies. and now thats being waterered down. so they should with the GWS , Sydney etc

 

[Barrels]

Solid move, I don't know much about the guy but looks like he did the hard yards - always prefer those guys around the club rather than the silver spoon private schoolboys who had it all handed to them.

 

[SaintsofSteel]

To be fair, the Gold Coast academy hasn't really given them much. One top 10 pick who is now at another club and that's about it.

How many top 10 picks have we had? Next year will be a huge year for their academy players with a top 10 key foward who made this years All Australian side and others.

 

[bergholt]

Hah you resemble that? So do I, that’s why I know that the battlers are harder workers than all the chumps I went to school with.

 

[Mstr Strokesman]

To be fair, the Gold Coast academy hasn't really given them much. One top 10 pick who is now at another club and that's about it.

The NT region concessions will give them a boost.Joel Jefferie is my man to look out for

 

[FrogDude]

How many top 10 picks have we had? Next year will be a huge year for their academy players with a top 10 key foward who made this years All Australian side and others.

Congrats for them I guess. Why do we need to compare ourselves to Gold Coast? Obviously it sucks for us to not get our academy guy for free but we play the hand we are dealt. I'd be much more annoyed about Sydney having more good academy players, they've had major handouts from their academy for ages in Mills, Heeney, Blakey, Campbell all being Top 10 (or equivilent bids) picks

 

[gringo2011]

Congrats for them I guess. Why do we need to compare ourselves to Gold Coast? Obviously it sucks for us to not get our academy guy for free but we play the hand we are dealt. I'd be much more annoyed about Sydney having more good academy players, they've had major handouts from their academy for ages in Mills, Heeney, Blakey, Campbell all being Top 10 (or equivilent bids) picks

It makes more sense to have academies up north. Those states need the clubs to run programs to attract talent to the AFL. It makes much more sense than giving Essendon the Tiwi Islands where they are a traditional footy area and the club is doing FA to develop footy there.

I don't mind having access to academy kids in Melbourne but probably players developed locally and from strict background parameters. The area they need to crack down on is trading out your picks to use points is a blight on the FS as well. You should have to take your first round pick out. The Dogs got to take Treloar for free and got a pick one from one draft hand. It's double dipping and makes an uneven playing field.

 

[DGontheQT]

A left field strategy : When the draft evens out , and players are hard to seperate , go the Tasmanian option.
The AFL will not set Tassie up to fail , and they will get all kinds of draft concessions , and Tassie , like those before them , will pay overs for that local talent. If Lachie Cowan for example - was there at one of our 2nd Rounders and we took him , down the track , we would have the option to hang on to him , or to cash in. There are only 21 Tassie players currently on AFL lists atm.

 

[Verdun]

A left field strategy : When the draft evens out , and players are hard to seperate , go the Tasmanian option.
The AFL will not set Tassie up to fail , and they will get all kinds of draft concessions , and Tassie , like those before them , will pay overs for that local talent. If Lachie Cowan for example - was there at one of our 2nd Rounders and we took him , down the track , we would have the option to hang on to him , or to cash in. There are only 21 Tassie players currently on AFL lists atm.

Nope all Tasmanian players to play for the Tasmanian team.

AFL need to set it up that way to recognise the pillaging of talent and $s from the state for decades (from a tad defensive Tasmanian!).

 

[TheOsprey]

Congrats for them I guess. Why do we need to compare ourselves to Gold Coast? Obviously it sucks for us to not get our academy guy for free but we play the hand we are dealt. I'd be much more annoyed about Sydney having more good academy players, they've had major handouts from their academy for ages in Mills, Heeney, Blakey, Campbell all being Top 10 (or equivilent bids) picks

Yeah I said to myself last year that if nobody bids on Owens and Windhager inside the top 20 I’d be happy that we at least got some payoff out of the NGA before they dismantle it / take away the main benefit to VIC clubs doing it.

So given we knew a couple of years ago that any top end talent that comes through our academy we’d have to use a pick on it’s not a big deal if we have to pay for a Mackenzie or miss out.

 

[BrutThough]

Cal's form guide

Mentions us as having interest in Tsatas (3), Humphrey (6), Phillipou (9), McKenzie (10), Hollands (11) and Hewett (13) with the strongest link being to CMac.

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' November ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey rates the performances of 30 of 2022's top draft prospects

www.afl.com.au

 

[Joffaboy]

Sun Ra

 

[Verdun]

damn long break until draft time, looking forward to it.

Would have liked us to have another top 20 pick but have faith we will address our needs. Another couple of players similar to Windhager and Owens and i will be happy

Hoping for one of McKenzie, Tsatis or Humphrey happy with Phillipou, Hollands or Hewett

 

[DougalHoward]

Cal's form guide

Mentions us as having interest in Tsatas (3), Humphrey (6), Phillipou (9), McKenzie (10), Hollands (11) and Hewett (13) with the strongest link being to CMac.

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' November ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey rates the performances of 30 of 2022's top draft prospects

www.afl.com.au

No Keeler in top 30

 

[Verdun]

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[gringo2011]

Nope all Tasmanian players to play for the Tasmanian team.

AFL need to set it up that way to recognise the pillaging of talent and $s from the state for decades (from a tad defensive Tasmanian!).

If a side takes Cowan and develops him for a few years they deserve compo though. If Tassie come in perhaps the AFL says they get a free hit at Tasmanian born players but work out a compensation system that the AFL stumps up for at market value or teams will not pick Tassie players for a few years. We need them developing in good systems because they will go home with IP and a good base to work off.

 

[gringo2011]

Cal's form guide

Mentions us as having interest in Tsatas (3), Humphrey (6), Phillipou (9), McKenzie (10), Hollands (11) and Hewett (13) with the strongest link being to CMac.

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' November ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey rates the performances of 30 of 2022's top draft prospects

www.afl.com.au

That all looks about right. I feel like Phillipou is the only one that might be available of the ones mentioned before CMac. I really like Phillipou, I think he could be a real star type but think that CMac is probably the most safe bet of the potential pick 10s.

 

[Verdun]

If a side takes Cowan and develops him for a few years they deserve compo though. If Tassie come in perhaps the AFL says they get a free hit at Tasmanian born players but work out a compensation system that the AFL stumps up for at market value or teams will not pick Tassie players for a few years. We need them developing in good systems because they will go home with IP and a good base to work off.

Yep totally agree, as I said I was being a tad defensive (with justification). Will be a while before there is a Tasmanian team.

Cowan comes from Devonport, same small town as Richo did. Not a lot of compensation has gone back to Devonport over the years from the AFL.

Want a Tasmanian team and the AFL to be sustainable.

 

[botts]

Cal's form guide

Mentions us as having interest in Tsatas (3), Humphrey (6), Phillipou (9), McKenzie (10), Hollands (11) and Hewett (13) with the strongest link being to CMac.

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' November ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey rates the performances of 30 of 2022's top draft prospects

www.afl.com.au

Cmac is our boy by the sounds of it. To be honest out of all those names mentioned, he is my preferred option.

 

[The Boar]

Great Result would be:
1st Pick: Mackenzie or Phillipou
2nd Pick: Keelor
3rd: Phillips
4th: Best available

 

[BrutThough]

That all looks about right. I feel like Phillipou is the only one that might be available of the ones mentioned before CMac. I really like Phillipou, I think he could be a real star type but think that CMac is probably the most safe bet of the potential pick 10s.

Both would suit us well so if we could end up with wither of them, we will have done well.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Great Result would be:
1st Pick: Mackenzie or Phillipou
2nd Pick: Keelor
3rd: Phillips
4th: Best available

You could almost leave Phillips for the 4th, but its risky if you really really want him.

 

[OxSaint]

It’s a shame we couldn’t get a pick in for Lewis Hayes. Looks to be just the player our defence needs.

I would be giving up a future first though. Not confident enough in us finishing high on the ladder.

 

[RWB4life]

I don't mind who we get but I almost hope we don't get a choice, like if it's poo CMAC at 9 10 I kinda hope WC pick one so we just get who's left. I like both but I feel shellshocked from picks lick paddy and billings.

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