List Mgmt. 2022 Draft Thread - Part I

[George]

Sticking this at the top of each page. If it gets annoying, let me know and I can just put it in the original post of the thread. Credit to Lore

 

[stavro#4]

If we think Bytel and Byrnes can help with the inside work Tsatas might be an option.

CMac is my first pick, Phillipou next, but I wont be upset if RTB wants us to run and run and run and run all game long leading to us drafting Tsatas.

If a top talent fell.

It’s hard to argue not taking him and being Hawthorn/Geelong who are wedded to other kids.

If he is as good as advertised on the outside. There should be plenty of scope as an inside mid.



Gives me Sam Walsh vibes.

 

[hayes]

Could be, Fletcher might also get bid on higher.

Either way it seems a pointless system where you can trade away your first round pick and then go into deficit the equivalent of a first (or second) round pick to get two first round picks.

That’s the AFL for you. Father sons, priority picks, academies, there’s draft compromises everywhere.

 

[FQFjt]

That’s the AFL for you. Father sons, priority picks, academies, there’s draft compromises everywhere.

It's a rort.

 

[botts]

If a top talent fell.

It’s hard to argue not taking him and being Hawthorn/Geelong who are wedded to other kids.

If he is as good as advertised on the outside. There should be plenty of scope as an inside mid.



Gives me Sam Walsh vibes.

Turns it over a lot

 

[jh38]

I'd love to get our hands on Essendon pick 22 - might be open to trading it since the Davey bid is currently expected in the late teens - to get Charlie Clarke to fill the small forward gap we have.

22 for 47 and a Future 2nd?

 

[jh38]

Turns it over a lot

Not disagreeing, but it is a small sample size

 

[bird_man]

So is Tsatas better than Cmac?

Yes

 

[Yawkey way]

Yes

Not for mine I’m going McKenzie everytime.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Just had my first proper look at a few vids and around our pick l think Cmac is definitely the one. I'd be happy that we just took our picks and offered a lifeline to a couple of the young DFA's.

 

[gringo2011]

I'd love to get our hands on Essendon pick 22 - might be open to trading it since the Davey bid is currently expected in the late teens - to get Charlie Clarke to fill the small forward gap we have.

Dogs also have a great list and could be keen to get picks for next year. Could end up with a huge suite of first rounders in next year's superior draft.

 

[Barrels]

Not for mine I’m going McKenzie everytime.

Agreed.

 

[bird_man]

Not for mine I’m going McKenzie everytime.

Fair enough.

You would definitely be in the minority though. Most draft watchers have him in the top 2-4 bracket.

I think he has more upside than McKenzie

 

[gringo2011]

Just had my first proper look at a few vids and around our pick l think Cmac is definitely the one. I'd be happy that we just took our picks and offered a lifeline to a couple of the young DFA's.

Wardlaw is the one that looks like a superstar to me. That next lot are pretty even in Cadman, Tsatas, Sheezel, Humphrey etc. CMac looks safe as does Phillipou.

Agree on the DFAs. It looks like a decent pool this year.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Fair enough.

You would definitely be in the minority though. Most draft watchers have him in the top 2-4 bracket.

I think he has more upside than McKenzie

I’m struggling to think of who he reminds me of. What do you see as his ceiling?

 

[BrutThough]

22 for 47 and a Future 2nd?

I think they'd want something in the 30s come back for points.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Fair enough.

You would definitely be in the minority though. Most draft watchers have him in the top 2-4 bracket.

I think he has more upside than McKenzie

Cmac plays with real intensity which seems to be the most translatable quality.
I can see some appeal in the others though.

 

[OxSaint]

All I read about Tsatas is that he’s the best loose ball getter/outside accumulator in the draft which is not what you want to hear from a top 10 pick. Give me the contested ball winners.

Looking at his highlights, he doesn’t look a very good kick to me. Covers ground well but prefer the look of the names we have already been talking about.

 

[BrutThough]

Dogs also have a great list and could be keen to get picks for next year. Could end up with a huge suite of first rounders in next year's superior draft.

Dogs fans are pretty keen to use their first few picks this year. Their top end is great but the bottom 4 in their best 22 are consistently very average. Bevo loves a limited VFL player which drives their fans crazy.

They'd probably be very keen on Clarke too since they lack a proper small forward.

 

[stavro#4]

Agreed.

Over Tsatas?

Why?

 

[stavro#4]

Turns it over a lot

What’s an easier fix?

A player who turns the ball over a lot?

Or

Asking a player to get the ball more?

For me, the game will slow down for a player who gets the ball 25+ times a game. That will help with ball use.


A lot harder to get a player to work significantly harder and be smarter with running patterns to get the ball enough to be an elite mid.

 

[Barrels]

Over Tsatas?

Why?

Simply? Class in disposal.

We need that more than anything else.

 

[phantom13]

That’s the AFL for you. Father sons, priority picks, academies, there’s draft compromises everywhere.

Except our academy which counts for nothing.

 

[stavro#4]

Simply? Class in disposal.

We need that more than anything else.

That fox footy article implies both would be available at our pick with Phillipou going 5 and Humphrey to the Hawks.

So potentially you could convince Carlton to trade firsts and land both.

 

[bird_man]

Cmac plays with real intensity which seems to be the most translatable quality.
I can see some appeal in the others though.

That's exactly how I would describe Tsatas to be honest. Seem to will himself to every contest and more often than not ends up with the footy

I’m struggling to think of who he reminds me of. What do you see as his ceiling?

He reminds me of a Dangerfield type. Competitive, works hard, finds heaps of the footy. He can be messy with his disposal but he's got break away speed at a stoppage.

 

[Yawkey way]

Fair enough.

You would definitely be in the minority though. Most draft watchers have him in the top 2-4 bracket.

I think he has more upside than McKenzie

I like to watch the games myself, I tend to treat what many others say as fan fiction. I know he’s had injury problems but honestly the highlights show what I saw. He was underwhelming, missed targets by hand and was sloppy by foot and didn’t display great decision making etc. If people are worried about humphrey’s disposal this kid would give you nightmares. If he was the ducks nuts he wouldn’t slide to us it’s that simple. Mckenzie on the other hand has been nothing but impressive on just about every occasion I’ve seen him.

Anyway there will be a bloody good player available at our pick and if we could grab Carlton’s then you can make that two really good players. I’m less keen on trading next years 1st for anything much later and I’m not really interested in moving up, Imo it’s just not worth it.

I still think there will be a few surprises, Allan to WC must be a huge chance, who will GC go with and you can throw Essendon into the mix as well.