List Mgmt. 2022 Draft Thread - Part I

[George]

Sticking this at the top of each page. If it gets annoying, let me know and I can just put it in the original post of the thread. Credit to Lore

 

[bird_man]

Sounds as though Humphrey is the least likely of the lot to make it to our pick.

I'm fine with that. I think we need a genuine midfielder more than anything.

 

[stavro#4]

Sounds as though Humphrey is the least likely of the lot to make it to our pick.

I'm fine with that. I think we need a genuine midfielder more than anything.

Sounds like he is Hawthorn bound.

Seems completely opposite to a traditional Hawthorn player of the last 15 years

 

[gringo2011]

I don't know about that. It really is a superdraft. The attraction is obvious and we'll wear a lot of initial ridicule for being the only suckers to trade out of it.

But that's why trading back into it for a disgruntled/less integral of our players is an integral part of the plan.

And who knows, there may be a young player on our books with huge upside end external value who despite our best efforts to retain him, is adamant on returning home and there simply is nothing left to do except get decent value for him.

The only problem with that is trading player that are worth a first rounder in a super draft means selling off your top talent. Nas might want out and we could potentially get a pick off Port but they don't have it any more so would be a 2024 pick or a player. He'd have to agree to go to Adelaide.

 

[bird_man]

Sounds like he is Hawthorn bound.

Seems completely opposite to a traditional Hawthorn player of the last 15 years

Aren't Essendon and GC also keen on him?

 

[botts]

Hawthorn are reportedly committed to Humphrey.

Gold Coast keen on ginbey apparently.

 

[botts]

Aren't Essendon and GC also keen on him?

Don apparently into the pou

 

[gringo2011]

Sounds like he is Hawthorn bound.

Seems completely opposite to a traditional Hawthorn player of the last 15 years

They have a few really good inside types already. Ward and Newcombe look top shelf and Ned Long is promising and still have Worpol. They have a bit of a vibe like us at the moment with a very vanilla feeling to a lot of their players. They need some flash to make them watchable.

 

[stavro#4]

They have a few really good inside types already. Ward and Newcombe look top shelf and Ned Long is promising and still have Worpol. They have a bit of a vibe like us at the moment with a very vanilla feeling to a lot of their players. They need some flash to make them watchable.

Mate they are odds on for Reid at this point next season.

If I was a Hawk fan. I’d be going for the safe option as opposed to the high bust high potential kid.

Full well knowing they are probably spoon/Reid favourites in 12 months

 

[stavro#4]

Aren't Essendon and GC also keen on him?

Essendon keen on the SA Bont.

GC Keen on Gibney.

Clark and Geelong

West coast should take a WA kid. (Busslinger/Allan)

So ultimately it leaves Hawthorn and us with Humphrey Tsatas and Cmac

It seems the only alteration is Essendon taking Tsatas. But it seems they have cooled

 

[BrutThough]

Gold Coast keen on ginbey apparently.

Gold Coast were apparently keen on Humphrey too. The last interview their list boss did suggested they wanted someone who could impact up forward.

 

[botts]

Trade for carltons pick 11. Swop of futures. Take cmac and the tsa. Midfield sorted.

 

[Yawkey way]

Happy for you to have that opinion on him, but if the argument is that he some how makes it to ten than it must mean hes no good, then wouldn't it be the same for any draftee not taken by then?

It makes no sense.

There’s an argument for the kid to be ranked so highly given his tac numbers and foot injury and yes there are also arguments as to why others like Humphrey should be there at our pick but probably won’t be. I’m just giving my opinion on what I see and noting that if there’s talk of him sliding maybe others have some doubts as well.

Every year we all get fired up over our favourites, sometimes I agree and other times I just don’t see what the fuss is about, remember Bonar and Stephenson. It should be a time to get excited but let’s face it no matter how many times we’ve watched these kids our recruiting staff have seen them more, interviewed them etc so whoever they call that’s fine with me. We also don‘t know what the club sees as our priorities and how they intent to use whoever we draft and that obviously a major factor as well.

I hope we can find another 1st rounder, I’d be very happy with any two of the players mentioned around our pick.

 

[stavro#4]

Trade for carltons pick 11. Swop of futures. Take cmac and the tsa. Midfield sorted.

I and many others would agree with you.


Issue is that Carlton wanted to trade up this draft. So let’s see.

 

[BucketsandBanger]

If by some miracle it played out with both Tsatas and Mackenzie available at our pick we'd have to try as hard as possible to get Carlton's pick. I think they'd be tempted to bet on us taking a step back in year one under Ross and the 'super draft" etc. Possibly next year's first and one of our seconds from this year for 10.

Seems too good to be true though, highly unlikely. I think we'd have to take Tsatas as first option but can't go wrong with either. I think we are in a great position overall. Seems like one of Humphrey, Philipou, Mackenzie, Tsatas will be available at our pick no matter what.

 

[Yawkey way]

I and many others would agree with you.


Issue is that Carlton wanted to trade up this draft. So let’s see.

That would be a fantastic result, why do you say Humphrey isn’t a typical hawthorn pick ?. Gippsland is traditional hawthorn, the kids talented and captain of the power.

 

[stavro#4]

That would be a fantastic result, why do you say Humphrey isn’t a typical hawthorn pick ?. Gippsland is traditional hawthorn, the kids talented and captain of the power.

They usually draft elite disposal players.

Not players who when they kick a set shot it could go anywhere.

 

[bird_man]

There’s an argument for the kid to be ranked so highly given his tac numbers and foot injury and yes there are also arguments as to why others like Humphrey should be there at our pick but probably won’t be. I’m just giving my opinion on what I see and noting that if there’s talk of him sliding maybe others have some doubts as well.

Every year we all get fired up over our favourites, sometimes I agree and other times I just don’t see what the fuss is about, remember Bonar and Stephenson. It should be a time to get excited but let’s face it no matter how many times we’ve watched these kids our recruiting staff have seen them more, interviewed them etc so whoever they call that’s fine with me. We also don‘t know what the club sees as our priorities and how they intent to use whoever we draft and that obviously a major factor as well.

I hope we can find another 1st rounder, I’d be very happy with any two of the players mentioned around our pick.

I'm not fired up

And as I've said, happy for you to have a different opinion than most

The only thing that doesn't make sense is you suggesting that if he makes it to 10 it must mean hes not that got. Surely that would go for anyone taken after pick 9 if that's the case. I'm not sure why it should be any different to if McKenzie is there at 10

I doubt we'd even be talking about the chance of him making it to us if there wasn't a go home factor though

 

[botts]

I and many others would agree with you.


Issue is that Carlton wanted to trade up this draft. So let’s see.

True. Maybe they have there eye on an specific player and if he’s gone that might change there mind

 

[Yawkey way]

I'm not fired up

And as I've said, happy for you to have a different opinion than most

The only thing that doesn't make sense is you suggesting that if he makes it to 10 it must mean hes not that got. Surely that would go for anyone taken after pick 9 if that's the case. I'm not sure why it should be any different to if McKenzie is there at 10

I doubt we'd even be talking about the chance of him making it to us if there wasn't a go home factor though

You’re talking about him as if he’s a class above the other players mentioned around our pick and if available too good to pass up that’s what I’m responding to. I’m saying I don’t see him that way in fact I’d prefer McKenzie, that’s quite different from saying he can’t play. He’s undeniably a good accumulator with pace and endurance.

Of course you’re fired up about the draft the same as the rest of us thats why we‘re on here talking about it. I love this time of year, if we get it right it could change the fortunes of the club for the next decade.

 

[botts]

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' October ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey rates the performances of 30 of 2022's top draft prospects

t.co

All chips in on cmac now after watching this. Imagine him hitting up king for the next ten years

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Sounds like he is Hawthorn bound.

Seems completely opposite to a traditional Hawthorn player of the last 15 years

I posted a few weeks back that Hawthorn's midfield is lacking a real dynamic player... so Humphrey or Phillipou would make sense to them over McKenzie, Clark or Hewitt.

There's a massive chance that Cam gets through to us now.

I think we'll get a bit of insight into how the club sees Windy & Owens developing with the decision on draft night.

We go McKenzie & they obviously think we have our dynamic, burst, goal kicking mids in Marcus & Mitch.

We go Phillipou then maybe they're unsure... or maybe they want a collective group of bigger mids who can go forward & have an impact.

Personally I think we really lack that pure, playmaking mid that can get the pill to others in a better position.

All in for #TeamCMC

 

[joop]

They usually draft elite disposal players.

Not players who when they kick a set shot it could go anywhere.

Sounds like he just needs some Ben Dixon tutoring.

 

[stavro#4]

I'm not fired up

And as I've said, happy for you to have a different opinion than most

The only thing that doesn't make sense is you suggesting that if he makes it to 10 it must mean hes not that got. Surely that would go for anyone taken after pick 9 if that's the case. I'm not sure why it should be any different to if McKenzie is there at 10

I posted a few weeks back that Hawthorn's midfield is lacking a real dynamic player... so Humphrey or Phillipou would make sense to them over McKenzie, Clark or Hewitt.

There's a massive chance that Cam gets through to us now.

I think we'll get a bit of insight into how the club sees Windy & Owens developing with the decision on draft night.

We go McKenzie & they obviously think we have our dynamic, burst, goal kicking mids in Marcus & Mitch.

We go Phillipou then maybe they're unsure... or maybe they want a collective group of bigger mids who can go forward & have an impact.

Personally I think we really lack that pure, playmaking mid that can get the pill to others in a better position.

All in for #TeamCMC

I can understand calling Humphrey dynamic. He size and power etc.

The Phillipou doesn’t scream dynamic but more that unique size for a midfielder.

Tsatas is more dynamic in my eyes and he can break from stoppage at speed.

In reference to our midfield.

I think we lack 2 key types.

Overall both types are accumulators. But they differ in how.

We lack breakaway pace from stoppages (Tsatas)

And we lack the 2/3/4 disposals in a chain from a player who has great footskills to retain and set the play up (Cmac)

Our current best 4 mids in role would be:

Tagger: Ross/Windy
In and under Ball pig: Crouch
The mid who goes the duration and impacts throughout: Steele
Hurt factor: Gresh

There has to be no excuses for me if Tsatas and Cmac are available at our picks. Need both

 

[stavro#4]

Top-five draft prospect prefers to “stay in Melbourne” but will be “all-in” anywhere

“I’m from Melbourne, I love Melbourne and I’d definitely prefer to stay in Melbourne.”

www.sen.com.au

 

[bergholt]

Because the people rating him aren't judging him off one highlights package of a game that was probably far from his best

Here is a couple more for the non believers

Draft prospect: Elijah Tsatas

Draft prospect: Elijah Tsatas

Check out the highlights of 2022 NAB AFL Draft prospect Elijah Tsatas

www.afl.com.au

Reminds me of D-Mac more than anyone tbh