List Mgmt. 2022 Draft Thread - Part I

[George]

Sticking this at the top of each page. If it gets annoying, let me know and I can just put it in the original post of the thread. Credit to Lore

 

[aussierulesrules]

I wonder who our target would be to be in discussions with Hawthorn about a pick swap?

Fair chance that whoever Essendon don't pick out of Tsatas and Phillipou could make it to 10 so that tells me it's probably Mackenzie.

Maybe we've been scared off Phillipou due to the figjam

I'd hate to give up too much, quite happy with where our pick sits right now

Maybe it is Pou and we think other clubs will swoop on him if we don’t get him at 7.

Obviously the main thing we believe we need is “elite talent”, one or more who could be top 5 in the comp type level, and maybe we see him as having that level of ability.

 

[heynow85]

Predicting the order: How the AFL draft might play out

The best young footballers in the country are set to find AFL homes in this year’s draft. Here are The Age’s predictions on how the first round may unfold.

www.theage.com.au

McGowan very similar to Twomey, has us taking Phillipou.


Mattaes Phillipou (midfielder/forward - Woodville West Torrens)

The Saints will happily snap up Phillipou if Essendon and Hawthorn both pass on him. This selection could depend on which player ends up slipping through, whether it’s Mackenzie, Tsatas, Phillipou or even Clark. Any of those will make for a worthy pick for the start of the next Ross Lyon era. League rule changes in the past two years meant they could match a bid on Mackenzie only if he tumbled outside the top 40 selections, which won’t happen. But St Kilda love Elijah Hewett, so don’t rule out a shock selection

 

[AirWinmar]

I think the gunslinger is being underrated here. Apparently played injured this year. If it happened to be that the original “top 9” were all gone by 10 and we were tossing up between him and Ginbey, I’d have no issue with us taking Buss. He definitely fits a need and if he’s as good or better than Gibcus (who we tried to trade up for?) then happy days.

Those who play KPD are exceptionally safe bets in the first dozen or so picks. Incredibly low bust-rate over the last 20 years.

If we could find a way to get Hewett as well, that could get well end up a great 1st and 2nd pick

 

[AirWinmar]

I think it might sound tempting now for some to trade up but in 12 months we would all be talking about what could have been with that draft.

West coasts 1st could potentially give us access to Harley Reid tho next year, if they finish last and he looks like he is certain to become a gun mid

 

[triggering bro]

Predicting the order: How the AFL draft might play out

The best young footballers in the country are set to find AFL homes in this year’s draft. Here are The Age’s predictions on how the first round may unfold.

www.theage.com.au

McGowan very similar to Twomey, has us taking Phillipou.


Mattaes Phillipou (midfielder/forward - Woodville West Torrens)

The Saints will happily snap up Phillipou if Essendon and Hawthorn both pass on him. This selection could depend on which player ends up slipping through, whether it’s Mackenzie, Tsatas, Phillipou or even Clark. Any of those will make for a worthy pick for the start of the next Ross Lyon era. League rule changes in the past two years meant they could match a bid on Mackenzie only if he tumbled outside the top 40 selections, which won’t happen. But St Kilda love Elijah Hewett, so don’t rule out a shock selection

Saints targeting Giants pick 17 for Hewett.

 

[BrutThough]

I wonder who our target would be to be in discussions with Hawthorn about a pick swap?

Fair chance that whoever Essendon don't pick out of Tsatas and Phillipou could make it to 10 so that tells me it's probably Mackenzie.

Maybe we've been scared off Phillipou due to the figjam

I'd hate to give up too much, quite happy with where our pick sits right now

Maybe worried about other clubs trading up for Phillipou so we are being proactive with it? Means Hawks wouldn't fall far enough to miss CMac either.

 

[MightySaint]

Saints targeting Giants pick 17 for Hewett.

Sydney pick you mean? Or giants pick 19?

 

[heynow85]

Saints targeting Giants pick 17 for Hewett.

Source? What would we give up?

 

[triggering bro]

Sydney pick you mean? Or giants pick 19?

heynow85

17. GWS Giants

Jacob Konstanty (Small forward - Gippsland Power)

This pick is in St Kilda’s sights, but they would have to give up a future first-round pick to prise it from the Giants. West Australian Elijah Hewett is the target if the Saints pull off the deal, while Essendon are also eyeing off Hewett and are keen to climb from No.22.

Predicting the order: How the AFL draft might play out

The best young footballers in the country are set to find AFL homes in this year’s draft. Here are The Age’s predictions on how the first round may unfold.

www.theage.com.au

 

[bird_man]

Saints targeting Giants pick 17 for Hewett.

"This pick is in St Kilda’s sights, but they would have to give up a future first-round pick to prise it from the Giants. West Australian Elijah Hewett is the target if the Saints pull off the deal, while Essendon are also eyeing off Hewett and are keen to climb from No.22. But assuming GWS hold on to the selection, Konstanty looms as the player they will draft. The Giants need more small forward depth, which they partly addressed in trading for ex-Demon Toby Bedford after losing Bobby Hill. Forward-half pressure was something they lacked in 2022, so Konstanty would fit in well with the fit-again Brent Daniels. They were previously linked to Jefferson, but he is likely to be off the board."

I'd have no issues with us giving up a couple of 2nd round picks for 17, but a future first and I'll melt like a mother ****er I reckon

 

[triggering bro]

"This pick is in St Kilda’s sights, but they would have to give up a future first-round pick to prise it from the Giants. West Australian Elijah Hewett is the target if the Saints pull off the deal, while Essendon are also eyeing off Hewett and are keen to climb from No.22. But assuming GWS hold on to the selection, Konstanty looms as the player they will draft. The Giants need more small forward depth, which they partly addressed in trading for ex-Demon Toby Bedford after losing Bobby Hill. Forward-half pressure was something they lacked in 2022, so Konstanty would fit in well with the fit-again Brent Daniels. They were previously linked to Jefferson, but he is likely to be off the board."

I'd have no issues with us giving up a couple of 2nd round picks for 17, but a future first and I'll melt like a mother *er I reckon

Depends where we rate Hewett & where we project to finish. It could be Hewett for 2023 pick 12. Not bad. But yes it’s a gamble. I’d do it.

 

[MightySaint]

heynow85

17. GWS Giants

Jacob Konstanty (Small forward - Gippsland Power)

This pick is in St Kilda’s sights, but they would have to give up a future first-round pick to prise it from the Giants. West Australian Elijah Hewett is the target if the Saints pull off the deal, while Essendon are also eyeing off Hewett and are keen to climb from No.22.

Predicting the order: How the AFL draft might play out

The best young footballers in the country are set to find AFL homes in this year’s draft. Here are The Age’s predictions on how the first round may unfold.

www.theage.com.au

Oh, i assume that's with bids. Sydney have 17.
I'd consider trading for it but if it involves a future first, their future first would have to come back to us.
It would be batshit insane to trade a future first for pick 17

 

[bird_man]

Rookie Me have us taking Mackenzie, Van Es and Hustwaite with our first 3.

Hustwaite would be an absolute bargain that late in the draft.

Rookie Me Central's 2022 Phantom AFL Draft

Though the order is ever-changing, Rookie Me Central has put together its 2022 Phantom AFL Draft, covering the first two rounds.

central.rookieme.com

 

[stavro#4]

12.45pm: James Gallagher

James Gallagher

Age

46

Ht

176cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

8.2

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.2

4star

K

12.2

5star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.0

3star

(St Kilda head of list management)

 

[triggering bro]

Oh, i assume that's with bids. Sydney have 17.
I'd consider trading for it but if it involves a future first, their future first would have to come back to us.
It would be batshit insane to trade a future first for pick 17

Apparently we love him.

 

[bird_man]

Oh, i assume that's with bids. Sydney have 17.
I'd consider trading for it but if it involves a future first, their future first would have to come back to us.
It would be batshit insane to trade a future first for pick 17

It's worth noting that there are also academy players next year that will go high so whilst 15 turns into 17 whatever we have next year will also slide.

I just don't rate Hewett that highly and the way next years draft is looking I think it's a gamble we'd likely go on to regret.

 

[MightySaint]

It's worth noting that there are also academy players next year that will go high so whilst 15 turns into 17 whatever we have next year will also slide.

I just don't rate Hewett that highly and the way next years draft is looking I think it's a gamble we'd likely go on to regret.

That's the fun thing with the draft and what makes us all look like idiots (and occasional geniuses). I think Hewett is awesome, would take above quite a few that will be drafted ahead of him

 

[heynow85]

 

[L_W_P]

Take out the F/S bids and we'd be looking at pick 15 from the Giants if we are watching Hewett slide.

It's a gamble but I can see the club being ok giving up a future 1st to get him in and training under Ross ASAP

What's 12 months of development worth? 4 pick slide? 6 picks?

Could also be something like F1st + 47 for 15 + 31 to try and catch another slider later on.

 

[Mowman]

Depends where we rate Hewett & where we project to finish. It could be Hewett for 2023 pick 12. Not bad. But yes it’s a gamble. I’d do it.

Yep, pick 12 next year for pick 17 this year if we rate Hewitt that highly is worth the gamble
Two 1st rounders this year to go with NWM - Owens & Windy
We complained how vanilla we have been, take the chance and the mini rebuild is well under way
Phillipou - Hewitt - NWM -Owens - Windy

 

[Mowman]

It's worth noting that there are also academy players next year that will go high so whilst 15 turns into 17 whatever we have next year will also slide.

I just don't rate Hewett that highly and the way next years draft is looking I think it's a gamble we'd likely go on to regret.

I don't know anything about Hewitt where have most got him going ?

 

[MightySaint]

Yep, pick 12 next year for pick 17 this year if we rate Hewitt that highly is worth the gamble
Two 1st rounders this year to go with NWM - Owens & Windy
We complained how vanilla we have been, take the chance and the mini rebuild is well under way
Phillipou - Hewitt - NWM -Owens - Windy

This is the kind of thing that destroys clubs for a long time. That pick 12 might be pick 5. Its very little upside and that's with me leading the hewett cheersquad

 

[StCicatriz]

I'm hanging out for phillipo on height alone hahahaha
ARR has me off the tsar too much bust
McKenzie's kicking and growth worries me

 

[Mowman]

I don't know anything about Hewitt where have most got him going ?

Elijah Hewett​

POS: Midfielder
Ht 185cm, Wt 85kg, DOB 27/5/04
From Swan Districts/Western Australia

There is a chance Hewett is still available by the Eagles' third pick. He has been a game-breaker at stages throughout this season as another midfielder in the pool with strength, speed and an explosive streak. He spent time playing for Swan Districts' senior WAFL team and enjoys busting out of a stoppage and also pushing forward. Clubs inside the top 10, such as Geelong and St Kilda, have put time into him but he could also get through a few more positions and be available later on.

If not him? Versatile small Darcy Jones could be a consideration, as may Charlie Clarke or Jacob Konstanty if either is available. Jakob Ryan is another in the same boat. The Eagles could also be a bidder for Max Michalanney should he still be there at their choice.

 

[triggering bro]

This is the kind of thing that destroys clubs for a long time. That pick 12 might be pick 5. Its very little upside and that's with me leading the hewett cheersquad

Conservative approach over the past 12 years has been an abortion let’s take a risk for once.