Remove this Banner Ad

List Mgmt. 2022 Draft Thread

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

Status
Not open for further replies.
Yeah I get that but at 174cm he’s just too undersized for me at pick 11 when there’s likely to be some pretty decent players on the board still.

Realistically will he ever be able to play anywhere but small forward? Probably too short to spend considerable time on the wing these days and I get the Bolton example but he’s very much the exception not the rule.

He’d have to be a very good forward to be worth it at pick 11, if we think he can do that then I’m happy to take the punt as it’s something we need but he strikes me more as an undersized mid than natural small forward - sort of in the similar mould to our own Arthur Jones.

His athletic profile is insane though, more the agility for mine over his speed that stands out as a real point of difference that will see him make it at the level, but then you look at Allan who has a similar athletic profile but stands at 194cm and it would be hard for me to not gravitate towards the upside of the 194cm prospect to be honest
I respect your opinion, it's not unreasonable, but I'll stake my entire reputation (so, nothing really) on Jones being a much much better player than Allan. I'm too lazy to elaborate why but if I'm wrong you can dig this up and absolutely humiliate me, like just **** me up with shame.
 
CaptainMurphy whilst we are looking at Darcy Jones, I actually like his ‘partner in crime’ Steely Green to
Your thoughts?
And yes, his name is awesome 🐸
Never heard of him! I haven't been following it as obsessively this year as I have in previous. What do you like about him (besides the name)?
 

Log in to remove this Banner Ad

I respect your opinion, it's not unreasonable, but I'll stake my entire reputation (so, nothing really) on Jones being a much much better player than Allan. I'm too lazy to elaborate why but if I'm wrong you can dig this up and absolutely humiliate me, like just * me up with shame.
Hahaha will do.

I’d love either at 21 to be honest but I suspect they’ll both be gone unfortunately. I just get the feeling we’re going to miss out on all my favourites by a couple of picks at each of 11, 21 & 38.
 
Yes sir! It's done!
Highly doubt it pans out that way in the real thing but it does show we're in a pretty good spot for a slider at our first pick.
 
Rumour is Geelong will take Busslinger even if Clark is available and many of their supporters seem to think it makes sense.

From what I've read looking at rumours, news sources and "inside info" etc. It could go something like this

Pick 1 - GWS - Cadman
Pick 2 - Brisbane (bid) - Ashcorft
Pick 3 - North - Sheezel
Pick 4 - North - Wardlaw/Tsatas
Pick 5 - Essendon - Tsatas/Wardlaw
Pick 6 - Gold Coast - Ginbey
Pick 7 - Hawthorn - Humphrey
Pick 8 - Geelong - Busslinger
Pick 9 - West Coast - Clark
Pick 10 - St Kilda - McKenzie
Pick 11 - Carlton - Hollands

  • Pretty confident the top 5 will play out something like that, maybe with GWS bidding on Ashcorft instead. Seems consistent with a lot of sources
  • Sounds like Gold Coast are after some big body mids and like Ginbey and Humphrey
  • The West Coast list/recruiting dude said that if there are 2 very similar prospects they would favour the WA player over the interstate one. They may not have a WA choice and may have to go an interstate player at 9
  • St Kilda have a good NGA system going after taking two last year and if McKenzie is available I think they will likely go and draft him after putting time and development into him
  • Carlton have apparently met with Hollands a few times. Rumour they also like Hayes
  • Jefferson may still go top 10, but some clubs question if he has enough mongrel. Apparently a very nice guy, maybe a bit too nice and gets pushed off the ball a bit too easily
  • Phillipou has supposed character issues, but nobody knows what they are so I'm guessing it's a complete load of crap. Maybe there's some truth to it and he slides down the order though. Wishful thinking I know.
Busslinger makes a lot of sense for Geelong. He’s perfectly suited to their narrow ground and DeKoning taking the main forward.
 

Remove this Banner Ad

HS top 25

1. GWS Giants
Aaron Cadman – 194cm Forward, VIC

It’s no surprise who the Giants are targeting after trading up the order to secure the No.1 pick. Most clubs don’t have Cadman in the top five on their draft boards, but he is the best key forward in this year’s draft pool and that is precisely what GWS needs. Unlike some other top Victorian prospects, the Darley local has also expressed genuine excitement about moving interstate. That has given the Giants a level of confidence that they will be able to build a forward line around the Jeremy Cameron clone in the long-term.

2. Brisbane Lions (match North Melbourne bid)
Will Ashcroft – 183cm Midfielder, VIC

While Cadman might go at No.1 on draft night, you’d struggle to find a club that does not have Ashcroft pegged as the No.1 talent in this year’s pool. The Giants are not expected to bid on the Brisbane father-son at pick 1, meaning the Kangaroos will have to do so at pick 2. The prolific ball-winning onballer – who is the son of three-time Lions premiership player Marcus – has not put a foot wrong this year and has won a swag of awards in the process. Expect him to have an immediate impact in a Brisbane jumper next year.


3. North Melbourne
George Wardlaw – 182cm Midfielder, VIC

Had he not had a season ruined by injury, Wardlaw might have been lauded as one of the best draft prospects of recent years. A hard-at-it onballer with power and speed, he models his game on Melbourne’s Clayton Oliver. Wardlaw missed all four games of the national championships for Vic Metro and played just three NAB League games for Oakleigh Chargers due to multiple hamstring injuries, a concussion and a bout of Covid-19. However, clubs still rate him highly and the games he has played this year have been exceptional.

4. North Melbourne
Harry Sheezel – 183cm Forward, VIC

Opposition clubs believe the Kangaroos are now “a lock” to take Wardlaw followed by Sheezel, despite North Melbourne flagging it is still open to trading its second pick. Wardlaw’s good mate from the Oakleigh Chargers, Elijah Tsatas, is available to the Roos here but is another midfielder, an area the club has already stockpiled a few of in recent years. Sheezel provides something different as a forward with the most X-Factor of any player in the draft. He is a genuine classy goalkicker who recruiters believe still has plenty of upside left.


5. Essendon
Elijah Tsatas – 188cm Midfielder, VIC

The Bombers are tossing up a few options at their first pick, but Tsatas looks the early favourite. The Oakleigh Chargers product is an obvious choice as a local who will provide Essendon with some much needed power, speed and size through the midfield. West Australian Reuben Ginbey is also in the mix here and – while not as classy as Tsatas – he is a bigger bodied midfielder who would complement the likes of smaller onballers Darcy Parish, Dylan Shiel and Zach Merrett. The Bombers have also had an eye on South Australian forward-midfielder Mattaes Phillipou, but pick 5 might be a touch early for him.

6. Gold Coast
Rueben Ginbey – 189cm Midfielder/Defender, WA

As long as the Bombers don’t strike first, the Suns look set to snap up Ginbey with their first pick. The West Australian is the preferred option for West Coast with their top-10 selection but is unlikely to get there given the interest from Gold Coast and Essendon higher in the order. A big-bodied midfielder, Ginbey also has a second string to his bow with his ability to play across half-back. He was Western Australia’s MVP in the national championships, capping a season which has seen his star significantly rise.

7. Hawthorn
Bailey Humphrey – 184cm Midfielder/Forward, VIC

A late-season bolter, Humphrey is tipped to land at Waverley Park. He missed a chunk of the season with a knee injury but finished the NAB League season in a blaze of glory and had some good moments in Vic Country’s final match of the national championships. With the departures of Tom Mitchell and Jaeger O’Meara during the trade period, the Hawks need to add some more midfielders and Humphrey fits the bill there as well as being able to push forward and impact the scoreboard. He interviewed well with clubs at the draft combine, coming across as a good down-to-earth Gippsland boy.

8. Geelong
Jhye Clark – 180cm Midfielder, VIC

If no one makes a surprise play earlier, the Cats look a certainty to snap up Clark with the pick they received in the Jack Bowes salary dump. A local who captained the Geelong Falcons in the NAB League this year, Clark has drawn comparisons to recently-retired Cats great Joel Selwood with the way he goes about it. He’s a brave and incredibly tough onballer who is developing into a stellar leader and is one of the best two-way runners in this year’s draft pool. Clark trained with Geelong in the pre-season as part of the AFL Academy program and made an impression, before going on to win Vic Country’s MVP award at the national championships.

9. West Coast
Jedd Busslinger – 196cm Defender, WA

The Eagles are expected to target homegrown talent with their first two picks and with Ginbey expected to be off the table before they come around, Busslinger is the early favourite here. The East Perth product is more of an interceptor than a key defender and therefore might not be considered a top-10 selection in other drafts. But he looks the best tall defender this year and fits a need for West Coast. Busslinger reads the play well, backs himself in the air and is a good kick for a big man.

10. St Kilda
Cam Mackenzie – 187cm Midfielder, VIC

The Saints need a few different types of players across the field. Tall intercepting defender Jedd Busslinger and key forward Matthew Jefferson have been raised as possible options at this pick, but Mackenzie looks the obvious choice. A St Kilda Next Generation Academy member for the past three years, the Sandringham Dragons midfielder has worked closely with Nick Dal Santo and said he would be “be happy to stay at the Saints” after training with the club earlier this year. Mackenzie finds plenty of the ball and uses it well, while also having great speed and composure. He won a NAB League premiership with the Dragons this year and another in school football at Brighton Grammar.

11. Carlton
Oliver Hollands – 183cm Midfield, VIC

The Blues are believed to be zeroing in on Hollands with their first pick, given they are keen to bolster their stocks of strong-running midfielders. The boy from Wodonga – who is the brother of Gold Coast’s Elijah Hollands – finished equal-first in the 2km time trial at the national draft combine earlier this month after placing equal-fourth in the YoYo test at the NAB League testing day in March. Hollands has spent a lot of time on a wing this year, where he has found plenty of the ball and makes good decisions. However, he is also developing his inside midfield game with his contest work. Fittingly, Hollands is a Carlton supporter whose great-grandfather Martin Cross played 36 VFL games for the Blues in the 1960s.

12. Western Bulldogs
Mattaes Phillipou – 190cm Forward/Midfielder, SA

A lot of clubs have Phillipou ranked 10-15 on their draft boards, but some consider him to be top-five on talent and say he would be “a steal” if he makes it to the Bulldogs at pick 12. The Woodville-West Torrens forward-midfielder is a good size and possesses impressive speed, aerial abilities and a good kick. Recruiters describe him as a player who “can break games open” with “matchwinning qualities”. There is also some romance about a potential move to the Bulldogs. Phillipou’s father, Sam, played three games for the club.

13. West Coast
Ed Allan – 194cm Midfielder, WA

The Eagles are believed to be looking very closely at Allan with one of their first two picks, given he has also attracted interest from Melbourne, which has the very next selection. Another homegrown talent from the west, Allan has good size and speed and is a strong runner who was the quickest player over 20m at the national draft combine. The son of former Hawthorn and Fremantle star Ben, he has emerged as a draft bolter in the second half of the season, despite playing limited football this year due to a stress fracture in his back. Fellow WA product Elijah Hewett is more of a genuine midfielder than Allan but is expected to slide a little further down the order.

14. Melbourne
Matthew Jefferson – 195cm Forward, VIC

The second-best key forward in the draft behind Cadman, Jefferson is firmly in the sights of the Demons if he is still available at their first pick. Key forwards are the weak spot in Melbourne’s list. The club picked up Jacob van Rooyen in last year’s draft, who is showing plenty of promise, and Josh Schache in the trade period. However, Sam Weideman departed for Essendon and Ben Brown and Tom McDonald will both start next season at the age of 30. Jefferson’s marking ability is his weapon and he has improved his goalkicking this year. Likened to Essendon’s Harrison Jones, he booted seven goals from eight kicks against Western Australia during the national championships.

15. Sydney
Lachlan Cowan – 188cm Defender, TAS

The Swans would be all over Phillipou if he fell as low as pick 15. But with that scenario highly unlikely, Sydney is turning its attention to Cowan. This year’s runners-up have been looking to add some more run and rebound out of half-back and Cowan is a perfect fit as a speedy line-breaking rebounding defender with a penetrating right boot. The Tasmanian has a host of admirers in the 15 to 25 range, with Collingwood also interested. So if Sydney doesn’t snap him up here, he might not be available at the Swans’ next selection.

16. GWS Giants
Lewis Hayes – 197cm Defender, VIC

Rival clubs aren’t entirely sure what the Giants are going to do with their three other top-25 picks. However, Hayes is a considered a first-round prospect who makes some sense for GWS to lend some support to Sam Taylor down back. The brother of Port Adelaide ruckman Sam, Hayes is more than capable one-on-one but is more of a third-tall type defender who reads the play well and is a strong interceptor. He likes to run and receive on the way out and is still growing. His brother stands a towering 205cm tall.


17. Brisbane (match bid from Collingwood)
Jaspa Fletcher – 184cm Midfielder, QLD

Another Brisbane father-son prospect, Fletcher is a first-round talent and Collingwood is a club that would not be afraid of making a bid. The Lions don’t have the draft points to match first-round bids on Ashcroft and Fletcher just yet, but will either find them or go into a points deficit next year to secure the talented pair. Fletcher is the son of Adrian, who played 231 top-level games for four clubs including the Brisbane Bears and Lions. More athletically gifted than his dad, he is a strong runner who has real class and makes good decisions.

18. Collingwood
Henry Hustwaite – 194cm Midfielder, VIC

No one is saying that Hustwaite will be the next Scott Pendlebury, but he has some similar traits to the Magpies champion as a midfielder who is not overly quick but has classy hands to release teammates from stoppages. Collingwood is right across him, especially given his older brother Campbell is a co-captain of the Magpies’ VFL team. Hailing from the Dandenong Stingrays, Hustwaite has also spent some time across half-back this year and was a consistent performer for Vic Country across his four matches during the national championships.

19. Sydney
Olli Hotton – 181cm Forward, VIC

The Swans are understood to be fans of Hotton, who has emerged into a top-20 prospect in the eyes of many. While recruiters believe he still has a bit of work to do, he is a good character and has a strong athletic profile on which to build. Hotton finished sixth in the 20m sprint at the national draft combine as well as equal-fourth in the vertical jump. The high half-forward role was new to Hotton this year but one he excelled in, including during an impressive national championships campaign for Vic Metro. He logged 24 disposals and kicked three goals in one game against South Australia.

20. GWS Giants
Charlie Clarke – 182cm Forward, VIC

The Giants are expected to snap up Clarke with one of these two selections, given there are a few other clubs with picks in the 20s who are lurking. The forward shot to prominence when he kicked seven goals for Sandringham Dragons in the NAB League in round 4 and went on to have a solid national championships for Vic Metro. Clarke brings good energy, is defensively-minded and possesses some good speed which allows him to find space. He might be a slight reach at pick 20, but he is the type of player the Giants could do with in attack alongside Brent Daniels and Toby Greene.

21. GWS Giants
Coby Burgiel – 183cm Defender/Midfielder/Forward, VIC

Burgiel has plenty of fans and is tipped to land somewhere between picks 15 and 30, putting him right in the mix for the Giants. GWS can cherry pick what it needs given its raft of high picks, and Burgiel presents a good option as a player with serious speed who can line up in a range of positions. He started the year on a wing but has also played across half-forward, as an inside midfielder and across half-back, where he looked a natural for Vic Country in the national championships. From the Gippsland Power, Burgiel finished third in the 20m sprint at the draft combine and is a beautiful kick.

22. West Coast
Darcy Jones – 175cm Midfielder/Forward, WA

The star of the draft combine, Jones set a new record in the agility test as well as taking out the vertical jump title and finishing fifth in both the running vertical jump and the 20m sprint. The boy from Swan Districts is small, but boy can he play. Jones kicked two goals in his senior WAFL debut late in the season playing primarily on a wing, and recruiters describe him as “hard to fault”. With the Eagles looking to draft some West Australian locals, he is another who fits the criteria.

23. Western Bulldogs
Brayden George – 185cm Forward, VIC

Whoever takes a punt on George will do so knowing he will be on the sidelines throughout next year after he suffered a late-season ACL injury. However, the potential payoff in the long-term is enormous. A power athlete, George has exceptional spring and speed in his legs and is a threat in attack both in the air and at ground level. While he still has some areas to improve in, he has drawn comparisons to Christian Petracca and could have been pushing to be a top-10 pick this year had he not been injured. It would be brave for a struggling club to pick him in the top 25 given the injury, but rivals believe a more established club like the Bulldogs could take a punt earlier.

24. Essendon
Josh Weddle – 191cm Defender, VIC

There is a lot of interest in Weddle among clubs with picks 15 to 25, with the mid-sized defender viewed as a player with “enormous upside”. Weddle was considered a later draft pick early in the year but came with a bullet in the second half of the season. He has a great athletic profile, is driven and is a genuine competitor down back who can hold down taller opponents. Hawthorn and Collingwood also have some interest if Essendon doesn’t pounce first.


25. North Melbourne
Max Gruzewski – 192cm Defender/Forward, VIC

If they take Wardlaw and Sheezel with the first two picks, expect the Kangaroos to target a key-position player with this pick, which they obtained from Adelaide in a late pick swap. Gruzewski, who is otherwise expected to attract interest from Collingwood a couple of picks later, is one good option who has shown an ability to play at both ends of the ground this year. A smart decision maker with good endurance and a strong marking game, Gruzewski missed a large chunk of the season with a PCL knee injury but caught the eye in Vic Metro’s final match of the national championships. Tasmanian intercepting defend
 
not 100% on George when Weddle was still available, but he's a talent

After taking Philipou…. And then double dipping on George…. How are we going to fit two more centre square players into our team? That is they’re eventual slot…. I guess Libba will eventually retire…. But still.


Rather Weddle or Clarke (although Clarke is already off the board).
 
Have WCE completely shot themselves in the foot trading down for Ginbey who now looks likely not to make it to them? 😂

Tbh I’ll be very happy with Humphries & Clark off the board at our pick, and if so it probably means we’ve got one of Phillipou or Buss. Ideally though he’s still there at 11 and Swans really want him and are happy to give up 14 & 17 for the privilege, which they may just do if they rate him highly and don’t rate 14 & 17
 

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

After taking Philipou…. And then double dipping on George…. How are we going to fit two more centre square players into our team?


Rather Weddle or Clarke (although Clarke is already off the board).

Quite easily tbh. Libba and Treloar on the wrong side of 30. By the time the new kids are ready to move into the centre square, some of the old guard will be handing over the baton. Dunks is gone, as you know. Bailey Smith has never been a great centre bounce player and is probably more suited to a wing or HF flank. The only locks for centre bounce right now are Bont, Macrae and Libba, all getting older. We absolutely need some young blood in the middle.
 
After taking Philipou…. And then double dipping on George…. How are we going to fit two more centre square players into our team? That is they’re eventual slot…. I guess Libba will eventually retire…. But still.


Rather Weddle or Clarke (although Clarke is already off the board).
I think George in particular could be primarily a forward.

At the moment we're picking between Hannan, McNeil, JJ, Scott, McComb and Vandermeer for our half forwards and none of them are great. It's also an important position with the amount of fast transition in todays game. Players who are good one on one and good kicks are extremely valuable.

Players like Gray and Degoey have had the ability to go into the midfield at times but are more impactful forward.

Philipou maybe could be developed on the wing but as others have mentioned we do need to plan for our future midfield as well.

I think if you can get a potential star, even if it's not in a position of need, it's better than getting a role player in a position of need. Role players are usually easier to trade in at a later point.

That said it would be a really close call between Weddle and George if both were available.
 
After taking Philipou…. And then double dipping on George…. How are we going to fit two more centre square players into our team? That is they’re eventual slot…. I guess Libba will eventually retire…. But still.


Rather Weddle or Clarke (although Clarke is already off the board).
Libba has deified my expectations by still doing everything he is now to such a standard but for guys like him the cliff comes quickly (whenever that may be). With George coming off an ACL I can't imagine him pushing for afl selection for awhile, with the club having the enviable option of letting him regain confidence in his body and get good continuity at vfl level before even considering afl footy.
Personally I'd prefer more outside types this year but can see the reasoning behind it.
 
Libba has deified my expectations by still doing everything he is now to such a standard but for guys like him the cliff comes quickly (whenever that may be). With George coming off an ACL I can't imagine him pushing for afl selection for awhile, with the club having the enviable option of letting him regain confidence in his body and get good continuity at vfl level before even considering afl footy.
Personally I'd prefer more outside types this year but can see the reasoning behind it.

George is also a forward. He has big potential to become a mid in the future, but that's not where he's played his best footy.
 
Shooting the breeze HS phantom. No inkling of trades and no Davey jnr bid. I guess it'll be hard to tell with trades but I fully expect at least 1 team like Hawks are going to trade up. A simple rankings draft.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Remove this Banner Ad

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

Back
Top