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List Mgmt. 2022 Draft Thread

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There's a mock draft going on atm on youtube if anyone is bored enough to watch.


If the draft went like this I'd surely take hollands he is a winger who can win his own ball and even play in the midfield and is much more determined than Hewitt

Our 2nd pick Is hard for me george or barnett, I'd pick barnett as he could play in defence while we develop him into a ruckman to take lobbs spot when he retires
 
If the draft went like this I'd surely take hollands he is a winger who can win his own ball and even play in the midfield and is much more determined than Hewitt

Our 2nd pick Is hard for me george or barnett, I'd pick barnett as he could play in defence while we develop him into a ruckman to take lobbs spot when he retires

Lobb's a forward, and our long-term forward line is pretty well set in Naughton, JUH, and whichever of English and Darcy isn't rucking.
 
Got a feeling we may bite the bullet and select George at 12, instead of hoping he’s there at 21. We seem interested and our comments around drafting for long term not for 2023 alluded to the fact we are happy to wait.

Definitely happy with that if Phillipou is gone. Not many have that type of star power in this draft.


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I wouldn't be against trading down/up

See if Swans are keen for Pick 11 and 21 for 14 and 17

Lets us move up a little bit
 
I wouldn't be against trading down/up

See if Swans are keen for Pick 11 and 21 for 14 and 17

Lets us move up a little bit
I have no knowledge of the draft at all and find it hard to see the benefit of this strategy. I get the “ move us up a little bit” ( pick 21 becomes pick 21 becomes pick 17) but equally we lose by pick 11 becomes pick 14. Does this strategy only work if we know who we want at 11 will still be there at 14 and who we want at 21 won’t be there after pick 17? How certain are clubs with the quality of their information?
 
Lobb's a forward, and our long-term forward line is pretty well set in Naughton, JUH, and whichever of English and Darcy isn't rucking.
I know lobb is a forward but meant that barnett can move to the ruck when lobb is
gone and while he waits can be a key defender, I do see your point with darcy and English though, I'd still be happy as to have an over 200cm ruckman who can play defence on the list
 
I know lobb is a forward but meant that barnett can move to the ruck when lobb is
gone and while he waits can be a key defender, I do see your point with darcy and English though, I'd still be happy as to have an over 200cm ruckman who can play defence on the list

I'm not keen on the "get someone who isn't a key defender and make him into a key defender" idea as a rule.
 
For me, we've got Jones and Keath for this premiership tilt, I really want to have a replacement or two developing for when they retire. Could only have a year or two, and I'd rather not leave drafting a young KPD until a time when we have nobody else for them to develop under.

Hollands is very vanilla. Doesn't seem to have much about him that's elite and I don't know how high his ceiling is.
Hollands is almost a certainty to go to Carlton one pick before ours.
Best runner in the draft pool this year and holds his width (underrated attribute for a wingman)

I do like the fact Ed Allen has a lot of development left, 194cm who blew the doors off the combine for the 20m sprint.
Raw but his rate of impravement during the year is something Dalrymple used to really go for (Cal ward-like).

Risky pick but that POD could translate into a weapon at AFL level. Supposedly has inside mid scope but a tall marking wingman who can run would suits us well. Neat sidestep too.
 
I have no knowledge of the draft at all and find it hard to see the benefit of this strategy. I get the “ move us up a little bit” ( pick 21 becomes pick 21 becomes pick 17) but equally we lose by pick 11 becomes pick 14. Does this strategy only work if we know who we want at 11 will still be there at 14 and who we want at 21 won’t be there after pick 17? How certain are clubs with the quality of their information?
It probably gets us Clarke at 17 who we’re keen on and GWS are almost certain to take at 18 or 19.

So I can see the interest if the player we want at 11 is gone and we like whoever will be there at 14. If we were keen on George at 11 for example then the trade makes sense for George at 14 & Clarke at 17.

I probably wouldn’t do it though to be honest but yeah just depends on who the club rates
 
Got a feeling we may bite the bullet and select George at 12, instead of hoping he’s there at 21. We seem interested and our comments around drafting for long term not for 2023 alluded to the fact we are happy to wait.

Definitely happy with that if Phillipou is gone. Not many have that type of star power in this draft.


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I'd be happy with that. Genuine gun who has the ACL discount applied.
 
I wouldn't be against trading down/up

See if Swans are keen for Pick 11 and 21 for 14 and 17

Lets us move up a little bit
This would make a lot of sense if we are thinking of taking George at 11. I'd be fine with it if that's our plan. I'd love our 21 to be 17.
 
George and any of Weddle, Hayes, Allen, Konstanty, Clarke probably forgot someone sounds good to me. If we wanted George and think still there at 14 or 17 and not 21. I like Weddle. George/Weddle and either Phillips, Van Es at 39. That would mean mids next year. Like Phillipou at 11 if available though and then 21 any of the best wingman, defender ( KP, intercept or small) reckon we could use all, or small forward available.
 

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I just want the draft to hurry up, literally 399 of the last 450 posts in here (including mine) are the same.

“Hopefully we get on of “insert Phillipou, Buss, Hollands, George at 11 and one of Weddle, Hayes, Jones, Allan at 21”

Make it stop
Yeah I don't really get it.

As the sum of our knowledge about this draft doesn't increase by any perceptible amount despite the flood of posts I'm starting to think that posting on the draft affects certain people differently. It's as if they experience a dopamine hit with each post. Before long it becomes an addiction.

Do we need a Draft Posters Anonymous self-help group?

"Hi. I'm doggies ftw and I'm a postaholic. I want to tell you my story. I can't stop posting about the draft..."



Post responsibly.
 
I wouldn't be against trading down/up

See if Swans are keen for Pick 11 and 21 for 14 and 17

Lets us move up a little bit
I think the difference between 11 and 14 is much bigger than the difference between 17 and 21.
11 is someone like Busslinger or Philippou whereas 14 -21 seems pretty even unless we really like Hayes who I think might go higher than Phantoms have him.
I'd only look at that trade if we could keep 21.
GWS might be me realistic. Say 11, 39 and future second for 18, 19 and future third.
Could give us something like George, Weddle and Jones but ief still be waiting to see who was available at 11 brie doing any trade.
 
Dreamt that dogs were looking to trade pick 11 and 39 to dons for a future 1st and 22 or something. Which they would look at Cowan & George.
I would love that but way unders for Essendon even with the potential 22 gets chewed up in a Davey bid (they’d downgrade it before matching anyway).

Their F1 (in a better) draft is likely earlier than #11 and #22 hugely earlier than #22. Our F2 (tied to Bris) would have to go in too and even then I’m not sure they’d do it.

I think the more likely trade with Essendon is #21 for #22 and then something marginally in our favour in 2023 (and they don’t take who we want) if we threaten a bid on Davey.
 

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I would love that but way unders for Essendon even with the potential 22 gets chewed up in a Davey bid (they’d downgrade it before matching anyway).

Their F1 (in a better) draft is likely earlier than #11 and #22 hugely earlier than #22. Our F2 (tied to Bris) would have to go in too and even then I’m not sure they’d do it.

I think the more likely trade with Essendon is #21 for #22 and then something marginally in our favour in 2023 (and they don’t take who we want) if we threaten a bid on Davey.
Likely a bid for Davey will come from GWS. I think the dream was essentially 11 for 22 and future 2nd but that seems a bit light for 11.
 
Looking at Elijah Hewett highlights, he looks like a really exciting prospect.

He seems to have very similar physical attributes to [PLAYERCARD]Bailey Smith[/PLAYERCARD].

In the modern game, you can’t have enough of these types running through the midfield.

I think we need more speed and power, to mitigate against the periods where opposition midfield powers away from us (Melbourne in GF last year).

So with that in mind I think the combo of Hewett and George would be perfect - they have speed and power in spades.
 
Has anyone read the story on tas small forward Brandon Leary, could be a good pick late in draft. Bases his game on Jamie Elliott and has played senior footy this year.
 
Personally a bit uncomfortable with the idea of George at 12. Only 2 weeks of being eligible for last year’s draft, ACL and other injuries already and little midfield exposure on NAB League. His tackling numbers for a forward were poor. He seems like an all or nothing pick, either it all clicks with his running and defensive effort and he’s a gun midfield/forward hybrid like De Goey or it doesn’t and he’s a handy medium forward that potentially doesn’t pressure enough to warrant a spot next to the KPFs.

I would prefer Hewett at 12. Similar physical attributes, not as electric around goals, but far more proven as an inside mid and gut runner and with a harder defensive edge.
 
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