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If we got 7 I’d be hoping for one of the gun mids to slide and let someone ahead of us to gamble on Buss.
McKenzie or Phillipou would be ideal.
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If we got 7 I’d be hoping for one of the gun mids to slide and let someone ahead of us to gamble on Buss.
I think solid defenders can be found anywhere, and if they don’t have elite traits you really shouldn’t be biting early. But the few that do have elite traits still end up going early like Naughty etc, if someone’s got that rare combination of speed, strength, marking & can read the play they don’t last very long. All though tbf anyone with those traits probably plays forward as a junior.Fair and Naughton was a first too..
Maybe it's slower KPDs with early picks that scare me
Just saw a timely reminder that Geelong were considering McAsey at one point but settled on De Koening later on. I assume McAsey went before any Geelong pick anyway.I think solid defenders can be found anywhere, and if they don’t have elite traits you really shouldn’t be biting early. But the few that do have elite traits still end up going early like Naughty etc, if someone’s got that rare combination of speed, strength, marking & can read the play they don’t last very long. All though tbf anyone with those traits probably plays forward as a junior.
I think we probably learnt a lesson with Collins, and that’s why he slid - without knowing much about Buss I’d hope he has some of those elite traits you require if we were to pounce early.
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Pick 6 I believeJust saw a timely reminder that Geelong were considering McAsey at one point but settled on De Koening later on. I assume McAsey went before any Geelong pick anyway.
Assuming we get Pick 7, which I doubt we will anyway.
Personally I would pick an high impact player, given our very vanilla team. So either an elite winger with pace and foot skills, a burst midfielder that can lace out the ball to a forward target, or half forward/mid who hurts teams. I feel there will be one of those types at pick 7. I assume Tsatas and Sheezel will be long gone. Personally Phillipou would be my preference. Even ahead of Busslinger. His pace and kicking skills are okay, and I haven't seen as much man on man ability as I would like to have seen that screams elite all round defender, hence the sliding. His intercepting is top level though, but something that can be found in others. If he was there at pick 11, I would consider. Phillipou can play the half forward role, and also in the middle equally damaging. Size, goal sense, strong mark and kicks well.
Weddle stands out to me as a type who will fill in a defensive need the most, given the ability to play man and strong is getting rarer these days. I would not panic into getting him at 11 if that is our first pick, as I feel he will still be there bouts come pick 15-20.
7. Phillipou + 11. Weddle (even if a slight reach) / Busslinger. Could even trade 11 back for two of GC early second round picks to improve hand in an even draft.
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11. A top 10 slider + 15. Weddle
I feel this and next years draft, we will have early and very late hands. So nothing in the mid range. If we could trade future picks or late picks to get back into the second round I would. Cowan, Hayes and my personal favorite Charlie Clarke would be there bouts in the 20's to 30's. I wouldn't mind Clarke as a small forward pick up, his work rate and pressure is through the roof. Can kick goals and has a team first approach, where he likes to set up team mates. I personally don't think Konstanty is miles ahead of him as a small. Would compliment Weightman well.
Pick 6 I believe
Between him and Chayce Jones you wouldn’t think a team could stuff up both picks in “super drafts”Immediately before Young and Serong.
Between him and Chayce Jones you wouldn’t think a team could stuff up both picks in “super drafts”
I think solid defenders can be found anywhere, and if they don’t have elite traits you really shouldn’t be biting early. But the few that do have elite traits still end up going early like Naughty etc, if someone’s got that rare combination of speed, strength, marking & can read the play they don’t last very long. All though tbf anyone with those traits probably plays forward as a junior.
I think we probably learnt a lesson with Collins, and that’s why he slid - without knowing much about Buss I’d hope he has some of those elite traits you require if we were to pounce early.
Phillipou, Weddle, Clarke would be a dream scenario for me. But we all know it won't play out that way haha.Shifter commented that Clarke was the number 1 goal assist player in the NAB league, so he certainly does share it around and generates plenty of chances himself. One Clarke or Konstanty would be ideal.
I'd be a very happy man if we walked away with one of the above plus Phillipou and Weddle.
Must admit I do get McAsey when I read about Buss,Just saw a timely reminder that Geelong were considering McAsey at one point but settled on De Koening later on. I assume McAsey went before any Geelong pick anyway.
Weddles competitiveness too along with his mobility would leave me very confident he at least makes it as an AFL level defender, how far he goes not sure but those two things alone you’d think he wouldn’t bustI think Weddle has an elite trait in his mobility. Hayes also has pace. Buss is very composed and reads the play well.
Must admit I do get McAsey when I read about Buss,
Does anyone that watched them both in juniors have pros & cons of both?
Still though I’d really badly love to find a way to get both Buss & Weddle, then target a genuine FB to take over from Jones and we’d be stoked with that spine - we do need to start looking at the midfield again soon but that can wait if we can sort out two key pillars of our defence IMO
Thanks, would you have a crack at McAsey On the cheap in the hope he turns things around?There's slight differences. McAsey is a better one on one player and contested mark. He is seen more as a No 1 or No 2 defender that has the size and strength to play on the bigger forwards like Tom Hawkins whilst still being able to intercept. Busslinger is a bit different in that he's more of a 3rd tall interceptor. He finds the ball easier and his ball use is far more damaging than McAsey. His penetrating kicking can break open the play, so you want the ball in his hands. McAsey not so much, his ball use wasn't always reliable or damaging. Athletically both are challenged, more so McAsey I think. Busslinger looks slightly quicker to me, but still looks below average for speed.
Thanks, would you have a crack at McAsey On the cheap in the hope he turns things around?
I get he has some really nice attacking traits but geez 3rd tall interceptor with limited athleticism really doesn’t sound like something recruiters would be banging down the door for. Will be interesting to see where he lands
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Corr Logue Dawson McKay they're set reallyIf North's getting Port's pick 8, no way is Busslinger getting past them.
McKay, Logue, Buss on paper is probably the perfect core to build your defence around though to be honest.Corr Logue Dawson McKay they're set really
Feel like it'll come down to how highly they rate Corr and Dawson and the other holes they need to fill.McKay, Logue, Buss on paper is probably the perfect core to build your defence around though to be honest.