Prediction 2022 ladder after 23 rounds

[TheUnicorn]

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[Jirik13]

Just feel this could be the year for Lions or again Melbourne if they can replicate decent injury run and awesome form in finals.

As for Lions, I believe they learned from painful finals experience and are in their prime. They will be very difficult to beat at Gabba. They are healthy and have depth. Neale is back to his best, Rayner is back, Hipwood will be back in the middle of season, Answerth is also flying. Daniher will only get better. Cockatoo looks ready. J Berry is finally healthy too. Young players McCluggage and Bailey are stars already and boost midfield. Lions discovered K Coleman as great rebounding HB. Plenty of depth, BigO improving in the ruck every year. Watch out competition.

 

[lewdogs]

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If we finish below the suns we may as well fold.

 

[Raveneyes]

1. Melbourne
2. Brisbane
3. Western Bulldogs
4. Sydney
5. Port Adelaide
6. Essendon
7. Geelong
8. GWS
9. Richmond
10. Carlton
11. St.Kilda
12. Adelaide
13. Fremantle
14. Collingwood
15. Hawthorn
16. North Melbourne
17. West Coast
18. Gold Coast

 

[lumpinee]

1.Brisbane ---- 16
2.Richmond ---- 15
3.GWS ---------- 15
4.Western Bulldogs --- 15
5.Melbourne 15
6.Carlton 13
7.St.Kilda 12
8.North 12
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9.Geelong 12
10.Essendon 11
11.Port Adelaide 10
12.Gold Coast 9
13.Fremantle 9
14.Sydney 9
15.West Coast 7
16.Hawthorn 6
17.Adelaide 6
18.Collingwood 4

2 draws

with the injury to King a readjustment is required

1.Brisbane
2.Richmond
3.GWS
4.Bulldogs
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5.Melbourne
6.Carlton
7.St.Kilda
8.North
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9.Geelong
10.Fremantle
11.Port
12.Essendon
13.Sydney
14.West Coast
15.Adelaide
16.Hawthorn
17.Gold Coast
18.Collingwood

 

[blueiris]

with the injury to King a readjustment is required

1.Brisbane
2.Richmond
3.GWS
4.Bulldogs
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5.Melbourne
6.Carlton
7.St.Kilda
8.North
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9.Geelong
10.Fremantle
11.Port
12.Essendon
13.Sydney
14.West Coast
15.Adelaide
16.Hawthorn
17.Gold Coast
18.Collingwood

A few massive jumps from some teams there in North Saints and Carlton
and Massive drop offs from Sydney and Port

 

[The Nostradamus]

A few massive jumps from some teams there in North Saints and Carlton
and Massive drop offs from Sydney and Port

Be interesting to see if noble can do a brisbane style rise from when you got Rayner at pick 1.
I think he has based our rebuild and resurgence around his time at lions

 

[blueiris]

Be interesting to see if noble can do a brisbane style rise from when you got Rayner at pick 1.
I think he has based our rebuild and resurgence around his time at lions

It still took Lions a few years for Us to jump I feel north improves but if they play finals that would be a quick rebound

 

[lumpinee]

A few massive jumps from some teams there in North Saints and Carlton
and Massive drop offs from Sydney and Port

first of all Sydney & Essendon have harder draws & the weight of expectation(making finals again) Geelong older and slower , Port's midfield wont stack up on top of losing Dixon for months wont help
Carlton in the window now(2022 -' 24 is make or break for them) softer draw and return of Curnow a boost,St.Kilda had a shocker last year but will bounce back to 2020 standards
and North have the soft draw plus the fresh faces not to mention more than a few talented youngsters primed to lift them into a suprise finals appearence this season imo

 

[Progressive Aggresion]

I think if either of the NSW teams were to drop down the ladder in 2022 it'd more likely be the giants. It depends on the injury run though. Both NSW teams at full strength should make finals, but I am confused as to whether or not the giants are still fixing their fundamentals. On one hand 2020 was the worst follow up year to a grand final appearance I've seen since us in 2008. On the other hand, Flynn and Green are surprising young guns and the back half of regulation in 2021 was impressive. Are they delaying an inevitable cliff under Leon Cameron

Leon Cameron

Age

51

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.2

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.9

3star

No current season stats available

D

20.8

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.8

3star

? or is the youth in the works preparing for another run at a flag?

 

[r_boy]

1. Bulldogs
2. Melbourne
3. GWS
4. Brisbane
5. Richmond
6. Essendon
7. Port Adelaide
8. Sydney
9. Geelong
10. Carlton
11. North Melbourne
12. Fremantle
13. St.Kilda
14. Gold Coast
15. Adelaide
16. Hawthorn
17. West Coast
18. Collingwood

 

[aussierulesrules]

A few massive jumps from some teams there in North Saints and Carlton
and Massive drop offs from Sydney and Port

A 3 spot rise (St Kilda) is massive?

 

[Lsta062]

1. Melbourne
2. Brisbane
3. Richmond
4. Essendon
5. Geelong
6. Western Bulldogs
7. Fremantle
8. Greater Western Giants
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9. St Kilda
10. Port Adelaide
11. Sydney
12. Carlton
13. Gold Coast
14. Collingwood
15. Adelaide
16. Hawthorn
17. North Melbourne
18. West Coast

 

[Freomaniac]

Richmond’s next Premiership is in 2024. And then six years later in 2030 with a new coach. Opponents probably Collingwood.

Then the den will set it self on fire and will rise again in 30-40 years…

I won't be surprised if Richmond wins a flag in 2023 or 2024 to be honest.

Some players are ageing but its not a full on old fart brigade.

There are some 28-30 years olds on Richmonds squad that will try and snag one more flag

 

[Freomaniac]

Don't know if Port can come back from what happened in the prelim last year - teams generally don't.

And surely motivation is going to pay a huge part for Brisbane going forward - they should be thereabouts with home state advantage and their list - but 3 failed finals and 2 straight sets would surely be weighing a bit.

Richmond won the next 2 flags after being embarrassed by Collingwood in 2018 PF after like 20something wins in a row at the MCG.

I reckon big finals losses are not a predictive factor, how is it any worse than not making finals and getting smashed in the last week of H&A or in an EF? Teams can bounce back the next year if they are good enough and have made the required adjustments in that offseason.

Fair point - Geelong got pantsed in a prelim in 2010 too, although they were two teams that had already set their premiership benchmark.

In the last 30 odd years, a few sides have gone from losing a prelim last year to winning a flag the Next.

North lost a prelim in 1995, won a flag in 1996.

Essendon lost a preliminary final in 1999, won a flag in 2000.

Port lost a prelim final in 2003, won a flag in 2004.

Collingwood lost a preliminary final in 2009, won a grand final in 2010.

As already mentioned, cats lost a preliminary final in 2010 won a fkag in 2011.

Richmond lost a prelim final in 2018 and won a flag in 2019.

 

[Freomaniac]

Sydney were demolished in 2014 finished top 4 in 2015 before losing in straight sets
West Coast demolished in 2015 made finals in 2016

Freo made finals in 2014 after their 2013 GF loss, even though it was a narrow grand final loss

 

[aussierulesrules]

I won't be surprised if Richmond wins a flag in 2023 or 2024 to be honest.

Some players are ageing but its not a full on old fart brigade.

I will be. Riewoldt and Edwards both turn 34yo later this year, Tarrant will be 33yo this season and Cotchin is 32yo this year.

As many as 3 of them may retire this year and the remaining one or two next, and they’ll leave a big hole.

And it won’t help one bit that they’ve lost Chol, CCJ and Higgins in the last couple of offseasons, as they would have been coming into their prime years just as the others were retiring, or nearing the end.

So I see this year as their last likely chance while say Dusty is still there. And he turns 31yo this year, and so does Lambert.

Unless of course they land a couple of “big fish” with the money Riewoldt and co free up.

 

[lumpinee]

with the injury to King a readjustment is required

1.Brisbane
2.Richmond
3.GWS
4.Bulldogs
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5.Melbourne
6.Carlton
7.St.Kilda
8.North
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9.Geelong
10.Fremantle
11.Port
12.Essendon
13.Sydney
14.West Coast
15.Adelaide
16.Hawthorn
17.Gold Coast
18.Collingwood

with Walsh goin down an adjustment is required

1.Boggo rd.
2.dennis allen
3.falafel/bahn mi
4.rising sun hotel
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5.slopes
6.sandbelt hotel
7.paperbags
8.sleepy hollow
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9.freemasons (De Marcos)
10.north star hotel
11.dockers ??
12.sanfl
13.mardi gras
14.rottnest
15.edwardstown/beaumont children
16.gee bung
17.cavill ave.
18.smith st. 2000

 

[justlookingaround]

In the last 30 odd years, a few sides have gone from losing a prelim last year to winning a flag the Next.

North lost a prelim in 1995, won a flag in 1996.

Essendon lost a preliminary final in 1999, won a flag in 2000.

Port lost a prelim final in 2003, won a flag in 2004.

Collingwood lost a preliminary final in 2009, won a grand final in 2010.

As already mentioned, cats lost a preliminary final in 2010 won a fkag in 2011.

Richmond lost a prelim final in 2018 and won a flag in 2019.

Yeah, not saying it's unheard of - but I mean specifically what happened to Port in their prelim.
They were widely expected to win at home and were absolutely demolished - would be a pretty big mental hurdle to move on from that and I reckon teams usually don't.

 

[FeastOrFamine]

1. Melbourne
2. Brisbane
3. Sydney
4. Bulldogs
5. Port
6. GWS
7. St.Kilda
8. Geelong
9. Freo
10. Essendon
11. Carlton
12. Richmond
13. Gold Coast
14. Adelaide
15. Norf
16. Hawthorn
17. Collingwood
18. West Coast

 

[Gumby2Hurley]

Lions
Deez
Dogs
GWS
Port
Swans
Tigers
Carlton

Geelong
Essendon
West Coast
Freo
Hawks
North Melbourne
St Kilda
Adelaide
Collingwood
Suns

 

[Shinboner roo]

Melbourne
Brisbane
WB
Swans
Geelong
Carlton
Port
Richmond


Gws
Fremantle
Essendon
St.kilda
Adelaide
North
Hawthorn
Eagles
Collingwood
Gold Coast

 

[Freomaniac]

Yeah, not saying it's unheard of - but I mean specifically what happened to Port in their prelim.
They were widely expected to win at home and were absolutely demolished - would be a pretty big mental hurdle to move on from that and I reckon teams usually don't.

It really depends.

If your talking about the Chicago Bulls reference.....

Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen at the bulls had to endure being dumped out of the playoffs vs Detroit for 3 years in a row from 1988-90. The bulls then clean sweep Detroit in the 1991 Eastern conference finals 4-0 then beat the magic Johnson led LA lakers to win the bulls 1st NBA title

 

[RonnieRaven]

Lions,demons,port,dogs

Anchors,cats,swans,tigers

Giants,blues,saints,bombers

Suns,pies,hawks,eagles,cows,north

Even season Freo 5th with 14wins
Giants 9th with 12 win

 

[Obeanie1]

Well with 24 fit players (4 new injuried in the past 3 days, all ankle injuries) and no covid cases yet I am now tipping the Eagles as bottom 4 and a great chance for pick 1.

Thinking I might be camping a bit more this footy season.