List Mgmt. 2022 List Management: Draft, Trade and FA

[G Mus]

3 years through the front ended deal before saying "I'd like to go home and play for West Coast" maybe?

Gotta start a family and all, nice knowing ya

 

[Outshined]

I'm saying, which ive said repeatedly, you dont come off your best season in 6 years, where you're supposedly on the up, then just lose a bunch of good depth players. Something isnt right, and my gut tells me that thing is the absolute stupidity to chase Jackson and offer him a pricey long term contract.

The only player you can remotely link to Jackson (in terms of cap space) is Acres, and he's just come off the first decent season of his career which coincided with his contract expiring. It seems at least justifiable for the club to try and build in more performance-based clauses.

As I and others have said repeatedly, Logue has apparently had a very good offer from Fremantle tabled, it's just been blown out of the water by another club which desperately needs a big signing and has cash to burn. It sucks we're losing him but if we can't give him guaranteed playing time next season and he has an extra 800-1m on offer, he'd be an idiot to stay. Just like we'd be idiots to try and match North's offer. If anything, the club failed not signing him at the start of the year.

Lobb wanted to leave back to Melbourne to "be with his partner" last year, before Jackson was anything more than a pipe dream. Tucker and Meek are clearly also purely opportunity-based and there's nothing concrete about them leaving either.

It goes just a touch deeper than gut feel.

 

[beetz]

My 2 cents

Lobb - Stay = Freo pick 13 and future first to Melb for Jackson

OR

Lobb - pick 11 from Dogs and Freo pick 13 to Melb for Jackson

Logue - Future 2nd from Roos
Meek - to GWS for Dersken
Acres - Pick 28 from Blues then sent to GC for Sharp
Tucker - probably ends up staying
Henry - lucky not to be in the reserves for Peel

 

[Carnthedockers]

Let’s not confuse Lobb with a good bloke. It’s all about the money for him. Nothing else. He was trying to walk before his front ended contract was up. His manager told Mark Duffield he would have re signed for the right price.

 

[Quazar]

I s**t you not - my grandmother was 4’6 and gravity did it’s thing over 80 years, so I couldn’t help but go there thinking about how brilliantly your joke landed!

I thought you meant the price was not that high, not my vertical challenges!!! You keep this up and I might place you on the ignore list! Things are rough as they are, I'm around 5' 8'', allegedly below average height so it's a complex enough ta!! God damn you

Anyway, I got height where it matters most. You know what they say about guys with big feet. Big shoes

 

[Tas]

I'm confused. Why does anyone think Nth Melbourne will give us anything in a trade? The higher the potential trade capital, the more likely he goes to PSD and use other less valuable trade capital on other less valued trade targets. It's simple list management....shirley.

In the AFL article it said, "He also communicated that he was very keen to ensure a positive result for all parties through the trade process."

 

[Freo123]

She moved over there while Rory still had two years on his contract.

She’s from Perth.

 

[Grape Bear]

I kind of agree with you, but when 6 blokes want out, it actually says more about the club than the player

I’m pissed as well but it’s very simplistic to lump all the players leaving together and say it’s the culture that’s broken.

Meek and Tucker both rightfully feel that they have the ability to play senior AFL footy but see their opportunities are limited in Freo just because of the players on the list who are clearly ahead of them in terms of talent and preferred selection. So of course they are justified seeking opportunity elsewhere. Griff probably feels the same, has played all year in a position he doesn’t really enjoy and is mediocre at, and is being given a cash offer that he can’t really refuse. Of course Acres wants guaranteed money because his injury history probably makes him feel his career could stall and end at any moment and the move will at least set him up. Lobb… well clearly he’s just a mercenary. Henry - I think that‘s a miscalculated beat up thanks to Colon Young.

taking purple glasses off, I think we as fans need to put demands for “player loyalty” into perspective. we can afford to judge them on this because we have no skin in the game - for them, it’s their career and it’s a short one at the end of the day. it’s admirable when players display loyalty and passion for the club, but not all of them will have that - for some, it will always be just a job. Conversely, we also know that if the club felt their utility was gone, they would be delisted or traded - and that loyalty counts for nothing.

 

[s_wd6]

What's the deal with Tucker? 9 reporting that he has also requested a trade to North but the freo statement sounded different as though he was still exploring opportunities and would only pursue it if it had mutual benefit?

 

[Taylor]

What's the deal with Tucker? 9 reporting that he has also requested a trade to North but the freo statement sounded different?

As broken earlier exclusively on bigfooty, his girlfriend moved back to Melbourne at the start of this year

 

[wakojako]

lmao, this is the greatest saying I've never seen (until now)! On a non-football note, can't wait to go into Bunnings and demand 2 shovels, a trolley and some screws by announcing I'm cashed to the ****! Respekk Wako

Mate imo you have the most creative/poetic use of words on this board so I consider your comment an honour Now I want to do the same at the petrol station when I fill up a full tank!

 

[Dockeroo]

Important to note we aren’t paying Lobb $750k next year.
We probably are only paying $400k and the other $350k, we have already paid him.

So “Lobbs money” next year is probably fcuk all.
A true mercenary

 

[Quazar]

Mate imo you have the most creative/poetic use of words on this board so I consider your comment an honour Now I want to do the same at the petrol station when I fill up a full tank!

Far from it. I just have a 'different slant'. But a compliment's a compliment, so cheers to you! Hahaha.

I'd never heard that saying before and it's gone straight into the Lexicon Bank and will cashed out when fully appropriate. Which is 24/7, me thinks.

Anyway, what was this thread about again..?!?!

 

[Boomer93]

If North are paying Logue 700k a year they better be paying the equivalent in draft picks...

Also Lobb being denied exiting a front loaded contract by Bell because we lost Griff is just too good. I'm starting to love Bell more and more.

 

[mattis117]

How would we have felt if the situation was reversed, and our club had offered a monster deal like norf have to griffen logue?

It all depends on the state of the list and how far away the premiership window is.

 

[Taylor]

Important to note we aren’t paying Lobb $750k next year.
We probably are only paying $400k and the other $350k, we have already paid him.

So “Lobbs money” next year is probably fcuk all.
A true mercenary

I'd say we are losing $500,000 (Logue) + $400,000 (Lobb) + 2× $250,000 (Acres, Tucker) = $1,400,000 to front load Naughton.

 

[s_wd6]

As broken earlier exclusively on bigfooty, his girlfriend moved back to Melbourne at the start of this year

Yeah but has he requested a trade to North or not? What constitues "mutual benefit"

 

[andreww90]

Tomorrow is a compulsory team meeting for every required player. Will be interesting to see if big Rory Lobster shows up.

 

[Quazar]

Who wants to start the Logue and Tucker and our first for Horne-Francis rumour?

 

[Van_Dyke]

Yeah but has he requested a trade to North or not? What constitues "mutual benefit"

in other words, he’ll go to north if we’re happy with what they offer for him

 

[Hazelsnuts]

Blows me away that people are self centered enough to hate on logue for this.

Hes a key defender that got plugged in to a key forward role, a key forward role that he would be competing with Jackson, Taberner, Amiss and possibly Treacy for next season.

So he can either be depth for our club and pray that he gets picked in the finals or go take an extra million dollars to play every week in his preferred position.

No one stays if that is their options. This is different to hodge and Mitchell taking slightly unders knowing they are going to be playing in flags in their preferred position. This is a guy having to take MASSIVE unders to PRAY he gets a game.

Give me a spell.

Goodluck Griff.

Griff bled for Freo and his teammates- first in to fly the flag when a blue was on…
Loved the way he played, with heart, a strong personality and staunch team mate.
At the end of the day, the club folded at the inflated cost and a line had to be drawn.
Me and my mates will miss him, my daughter loves him - first Freo player she had show her how to kick at a clinic- in his first year at the club.
She still can’t kick and neither can he….
We will miss you LLLLLLooooogue…
Good luck Griff.

 

[EastcoastDocker]

Important to note we aren’t paying Lobb $750k next year.
We probably are only paying $400k and the other $350k, we have already paid him.

So “Lobbs money” next year is probably fcuk all.
A true mercenary

Can we stop doing these bloody frontloaded contracts. It never ends well. Come the last yr the player is living beyond their means or is use to seeing X come in every month.

 

[s_wd6]

in other words, he’ll go to north if we’re happy with what they offer for him

So I assume he's just there to drive up the price for Logue?

 

[beetz]

Can we stop doing these bloody frontloaded contracts. It never ends well. Come the last yr the player is living beyond their means or is use to seeing X come in every month.

Why? It’s panned out well in the end

 

[Lach72]

Can we stop doing these bloody frontloaded contracts. It never ends well. Come the last yr the player is living beyond their means or is use to seeing X come in every month.

thats not possible due to the requirement to pay 95% of the salary cap each year.

you won’t always be in a position to pay players enough at the right times and retain list flexibility