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KinderSmock

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What Kinder's alluding to is the word internally at Geelong is apparently that they're more interested in Busslinger, Mackenzie, Ginbey, Phillipou, or other options rather than just taking the Geelong boy in Clark. For what it's worth I think he'll be best available at your pick, but I'm not sure he works with your midfield being well-developed and bringing in Bowes and especially Bruhn to play his role. Reporters that just throw Clark up for Geelong because of where he is from come off as lazy. I wouldn't be surprised if they went with him, but I reckon he's more likely to go to Hawthorn, West Coast, or Carlton than the Cats. But the Selwood comparison and Geelong Factory just make such a compelling narrative that it's a safe go-to for journos. We'll know more about what your recruiting team is thinking if you lot have ITKs leaking info on your board or when Twomey puts out his phantom since he's usually well-connected this close to the draft.

Pretty much this. In regards to the draft, I try to read widely and get involved in the discussion. The word I’ve heard from posters such as PMBangers, on the Geelong boards, reading Facebook groups is that Geelong are seeking to gain a KPP, not another midfielder. The reason for this is that they have just added Bruhn and Bowes (you’re paying $$$ for him so I doubt Geelong will intend to play him entirely in the VFL). Busslinger seems the more like option and if not him, then some of the other players. Clark will always be available as a trade target should he flourish into an elite player. But personally, I think the club rates him higher. The Clark rumour hasn’t been run by major news outlets as this is very contradictory to the information received during the trade period. And it does follow that Geelong probably would rather draft a kid they have space for in their team in the next few years and not someone who’ll be requesting a trade in two years’ time due to lack of opportunity. Clark’s not a Geelong supporter, either. His father is actually a player sponsor for Collingwood. I doubt very much he ends up at the Pies but if he did, I wouldn’t see him as a go-home risk. Geelong fans should prepare themselves for Clark not to be taken. Hawthorn, Essendon and West Coast have all been linked to Clark.


The HUN phantom draft isn’t the one that should be read into. Really only pay attention to Cal Twomey as he has the actual information, not wild speculation. The HUN are busy with the Victorian election so footy has to take a natural backseat.

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1. Gws - Cadman
2. Brisbane - Ashcroft
3. North - Wardlaw
4. North - Sheezel
5. Essendon - Tsatas
6. Suns - Ginbey
7. Hawks - Phillipou
8. Geelong - Humphrey
9. West Coast - Clark
10. Saints - Mackenzie
11. Blues - Hewett
12. Bulldogs - Busslinger
13. West Coast - Jefferson
14. Melbourne - Allan
15. Sydney - Hollands
16. GWS - Hayes
17. Brisbane - Fletcher
18. Collingwood - Hotton
19. Sydney - Barnett
20. Giants - Konstanty
21. Giants - Cowan
22. West Coast - Ryan
23. Giants - Rowston
24. Bulldogs - George
25. Essendon - Weddle
26. Essendon - Davey
27. North - Burgiel
28. Hawks - Hustwaite
29. Adelaide - Michalanney
30. Collingwood - Gruzewski
 

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1. Gws - Cadman
2. Brisbane - Ashcroft
3. North - Wardlaw
4. North - Sheezel
5. Essendon - Tsatas
6. Suns - Ginbey
7. Hawks - Phillipou
8. Geelong - Humphrey
9. West Coast - Clark
10. Saints - Mackenzie
11. Blues - Hewett
12. Bulldogs - Busslinger
13. West Coast - Jefferson
14. Melbourne - Allan
15. Sydney - Hollands
16. GWS - Hayes
17. Brisbane - Fletcher
18. Collingwood - Hotton
19. Sydney - Barnett
20. Giants - Konstanty
21. Giants - Cowan
22. West Coast - Ryan
23. Giants - Rowston
24. Bulldogs - George
25. Essendon - Weddle
26. Essendon - Davey
27. North - Burgiel
28. Hawks - Hustwaite
29. Adelaide - Michalanney
30. Collingwood - Gruzewski
The thing with Twomey’s & Shifter’s mock draft, it’s them having a bit of fun. I don’t believe they’ve ever said it’s serious and they’re trying to nail the picks.
 

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1. Gws - Cadman
2. Brisbane - Ashcroft
3. North - Wardlaw
4. North - Sheezel
5. Essendon - Tsatas
6. Suns - Ginbey
7. Hawks - Phillipou
8. Geelong - Humphrey
9. West Coast - Clark
10. Saints - Mackenzie
11. Blues - Hewett
12. Bulldogs - Busslinger
13. West Coast - Jefferson
14. Melbourne - Allan
15. Sydney - Hollands
16. GWS - Hayes
17. Brisbane - Fletcher
18. Collingwood - Hotton
19. Sydney - Barnett
20. Giants - Konstanty
21. Giants - Cowan
22. West Coast - Ryan
23. Giants - Rowston
24. Bulldogs - George
25. Essendon - Weddle
26. Essendon - Davey
27. North - Burgiel
28. Hawks - Hustwaite
29. Adelaide - Michalanney
30. Collingwood - Gruzewski

Sheehan said Sydney needed an inside mid to replace Kennedy and seconds later picked an outside midfield for us?
 

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1 Will Ashcroft
2 Harry Sheezel
3 George Wardlaw
4 Elijah Tsatas
5 Aaron Cadman
6 Bailey Humphrey
7 Mattaes Phillipou
8 Jhye Clark
9 Cam MacKenzie
10 Reuben Ginbey
11 Jedd Busslinger
12 Oliver Hollands
13 Matthew Jefferson
14 Ed Allen
15 Henry Hustwaite
16 Josh Weddle
17 Olli Hotton
18 Lachie Cowan
19 Lewis Hayes
20 Jaspa Fletcher
21 Elijah Hewett
22 Brayden George
23 Alwyn Davey Jr
24 Harry Barnett
25 Jacob Konstanty
26 Darcy Jones
27 Charlie Clarke
28 Max Michalanney
29 Jakob Ryan
30 Harry Rowston
31 Coby Burgiel
32 Sam Gilbey
33 Max Gruzewski
34 Isaac Keeler
35 Jaxon Binns
36 Mitch Szybkowski
37 Harvey Gallagher
38 Jaiden Magor
39 Tom McCallum
40 Kaleb Smith
41 Jed Hagan
42 Blake Drury
43 Adam D'Aloia
44 Jason Gillbee
45 Harry Lemmey
46 Noah Long
47 Luke Teal
48 Toby McMullin
49 Billy Dowling
50 James Van Es

INDIVIDUAL RANKINGS - NOVEMBER

RANKJORDAN PINTODAN BATTENCHRIS CAVANAGH
1Will AshcroftWill AshcroftWill Ashcroft
2Harry SheezelHarry SheezelGeorge Wardlaw
3Elijah TsatasGeorge WardlawHarry Sheezel
4George WardlawAaron CadmanElijah Tsatas
5Bailey HumphreyBailey HumphreyAaron Cadman
6Aaron CadmanElijah TsatasMattaes Phillipou
7Mattaes PhillipouJhye ClarkBailey Humphrey
8Cam MackenzieMattaes PhillipouReuben Ginbey
9Jedd BusslingerCam MackenzieJhye Clark
10Jhye ClarkReuben GinbeyCam Mackenzie
11Reuben GinbeyJedd BusslingerOllie Hollands
12Oliver HollandsOliver HollandsEd Allan
13Henry HustwaiteMatthew JeffersonJedd Busslinger
14Matthew JeffersonLewis HayesMatt Jefferson
15Ed AllanLachie CowanJaspa Fletcher
16Josh WeddleElijah HewettLachlan Cowan
17Olli HottonOlli HottonJosh Weddle
18Brayden GeorgeHenry HustwaiteOlli Hotton
19Jaspa FletcherJosh WeddleHenry Hustwaite
20Harry BarnettEd AllanLewis Hayes
21Lewis HayesJaspa FletcherElijah Hewett
22Elijah HewettBrayden GeorgeAlwyn Davey Jnr
23Sam GilbeyCharlie ClarkeCharlie Clarke
24Max MichalanneyDarcy JonesHarry Rowston
25Lachie CowanHarvey GallagherMax Michalanney
26Jacob KonstantyAlwyn Davey JrJakob Ryan
27Jaiden MagorHarry BarnettBrayden George
28Jakob RyanJacob KonstantyCoby Burgiel
29Alwyn Davey JrHarry RowstonJacob Konstanty
30Darcy JonesMax GruzewskiDarcy Jones
31Kaleb SmithMitch SzybkowskiTom McCullum
32Coby BurgielJaxon BinnsHarry Barnett
33Isaac KeelerIsaac KeeleIsaac Keeler
34Max GruzewskiJed HaganMax Gruzewski
35Harry LemmeySam GilbeyMitch Szybkowski
36Adam D’AloiaCoby BurgielJaxon Binns
37Jaxon BinnsJason GillbeeJed Hagan
38Toby McMullinJakob RyanKaleb Smith
39Billy DowlingJaiden MagorSam Gilbey
40Charlie ClarkeEthan PhillipsNoah Long
41Blake DruryMax MichalanneyHarvey Gallagher
42Mitch SyzbkowskiBlake DruryAdam D’Aloia
43Harry RowstonTom McCallumBlake Drury
44Tom McCallumLuke TealJames Van Es
45Harvey GallagherHugh BondLuke Teal
46Jason GillbeeNoah LongAnthony Munkara
47Nick SadlerJames Van EsHugh Bond
48Luke TealCooper VickeryCooper Vickery
49Jed HaganAdam D’AloiaHarry Lemmey
50Noah LongBailey MacdonaldTom Scully
 
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1. Greater Western Sydney - Aaron Cadman
2. Brisbane - Will Ashcroft
3. North Melbourne - George Wardlaw
4. North Melbourne - Harry Sheezel
5. Essendon - Elijah Tsatas
6. Gold Coast - Bailey Humphrey
7. Hawthorn - Mattaes Phillipou
8. Geelong - Jhye Clark
9. West Coast - Reuben Ginbey
10. St Kilda - Jedd Busslinger
11. Brisbane - Jaspa Fletcher
12. Carlton - Oliver Hollands
13. Western Bulldogs - Ed Allan
14. West Coast - Cam Mackenzie
15. Melbourne - Matthew Jefferson
16. Sydney - Josh Weddle
17. Greater Western Sydney - Elijah Hewett
18. Collingwood - Jakob Ryan
19. Sydney - Harry Barnett
20. Greater Western Sydney - Charlie Clarke
21. Greater Western Sydney - Lewis Hayes
22. Essendon - Alwyn Davey Jr
23. West Coast - Darcy Jones
24. Adelaide - Max Michalanney
25. Western Bulldogs - Brayden George
26. North Melbourne - Lachie Cowan
27. Hawthorn - Max Gruzewski
28. Collingwood - Henry Hustwaite
29.West Coast - Kaleb Smith
30. Collingwood - Joe Richards
 
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1. Greater Western Sydney - Aaron Cadman
2. Brisbane - Will Ashcroft
3. North Melbourne - George Wardlaw
4. North Melbourne - Harry Sheezel
5. Essendon - Elijah Tsatas
6. Gold Coast - Bailey Humphrey
7. Hawthorn - Mattaes Phillipou
8. Geelong - Jhye Clark
9. West Coast - Reuben Ginbey
10. St Kilda - Jedd Busslinger
11. Brisbane - Jaspa Fletcher
12. Carlton - Oliver Hollands
13. Western Bulldogs - Ed Allan
14. West Coast - Cam Mackenzie
15. Melbourne - Matthew Jefferson
16. Sydney - Josh Weddle
17. Greater Western Sydney - Elijah Hewett
18. Collingwood - Jakob Ryan
19. Sydney - Harry Barnett
20. Greater Western Sydney - Charlie Clarke
21. Greater Western Sydney - Lewis Hayes
22. Essendon - Alwyn Davey Jr
23. West Coast - Darcy Jones
24. Adelaide - Max Michalanney
25. Western Bulldogs - Brayden George
26. North Melbourne - Lachie Cowan
27. Hawthorn - Max Gruzewski
28. Collingwood - Henry Hustwaite
29.West Coast - Kaleb Smith
30. Collingwood - Joe Richards

Olli Hotton invited to night 1 and they don't even have him going top 30...
 

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Not a chance saints go past McKenzie. Don’t even think we have interviewed busslinger. Not gonna go needs based in the top ten.
Top 9 look good. 10-30 feels like they threw the names in the air and where they landed is where they get picked.
 

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Ed Allan
Will Ashcroft
Harry Barnett
Jaxon Binns
Jedd Busslinger
Aaron Cadman
Jhye Clark
Charlie Clarke
Lachlan Cowan
Alwyn Davey Jnr
Blake Drury
Jaspa Fletcher
Brayden George
Sam Gilbey
Jason Gillbee
Reuben Ginbey
Steely Green
Jed Hagan
Lewis Hayes
Elijah Hewett
Oliver Hollands
Olli Hotton
Bailey Humphrey
Henry Hustwaite
Matthew Jefferson
Darcy Jones
Jacob Konstanty
Cameron Mackenzie
Jaiden Magor
Tom McCallum
Max Michalanney
Mattaes Phillipou
Harry Rowston
Jakob Ryan
Harry Sheezel
Kaleb Smith
Mitch Szybkowski
Elijah Tsatas
George Wardlaw
Josh Weddle

Missing from top 40
Coby Burgiel
Max Gruzewski
Isaac Keeler
 
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Shifter's top 40


Ed Allan
Will Ashcroft
Harry Barnett
Jaxon Binns
Jedd Busslinger
Aaron Cadman
Jhye Clark
Charlie Clarke
Lachlan Cowan
Alwyn Davey Jnr
Blake Drury
Jaspa Fletcher
Brayden George
Sam Gilbey
Jason Gillbee
Reuben Ginbey
Steely Green
Jed Hagan
Lewis Hayes
Elijah Hewett
Oliver Hollands
Olli Hotton
Bailey Humphrey
Henry Hustwaite
Matthew Jefferson
Darcy Jones
Jacob Konstanty
Cameron Mackenzie
Jaiden Magor
Tom McCallum
Max Michalanney
Mattaes Phillipou
Harry Rowston
Jakob Ryan
Harry Sheezel
Kaleb Smith
Mitch Szybkowski
Elijah Tsatas
George Wardlaw
Josh Weddle

Missing from top 40
Coby Burgiel
Max Gruzewski
Isaac Keeler
No keeler suprises me
 

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No keeler suprises me

It’s not really.

He finished almost 40 seconds behind Lewis Hayes in the 2km time trial at the combine and Hayes collapsed for a portion of it.

On a 5 lap time trial the elite runners like Sheezel, Hollands and Weddle would have lapped him twice.

Now AFL pre-seasons aren’t AFL combines, when they can often do 5 x 2km runs or 10 x 1km runs in a single session.

Keeler is a long long way behind AFL standard in terms of fitness and his general body outside of his natural athleticism.

Some clubs probably view him as simply too far behind and not worth the resources it may require.

Having a new draftee not able to complete sessions and getting lapped in every running drill isn’t good for your footy club, no matter how high his ceiling is.
 

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