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Seymour Skinner

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Clutching at straws with Cripps, but could his scoring be impacted by coaching?
Teague took over mid 2019 as caretaker. He wasnt given the senior job until after the 2019 season.
Average plummeted from 119.4 and 117.1 to 97.5 and 83.5 under Senior Coach Teague.

Has been grinded into the dirt.
Nothing more than Sam Walsh's offsider now.
 

ArdentEagle

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Clutching at straws with Cripps, but could his scoring be impacted by coaching?
Teague took over mid 2019 as caretaker. He wasnt given the senior job until after the 2019 season.
Average plummeted from 119.4 and 117.1 to 97.5 and 83.5 under Senior Coach Teague.
This is every opposition teams motto for big Crippa



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turtles

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Has been grinded into the dirt.
Nothing more than Sam Walsh's offsider now.
Second fiddle to Walsh is good. Here are his scores from 2018-2020 when he isnt tagged or being played head to head with someone (According to Fanfooty);

194,187,173,169,152,149,148,143,134,130,126,123,123,122,117,116,116,112,112,111,110,109,105,103,98,97,93,92,81,56(injury),26(Injury)

125.69 average without the 2 injury games.
 

blueiris

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Second fiddle to Walsh is good. Here are his scores from 2018-2020 when he isnt tagged or being played head to head with someone (According to Fanfooty);

194,187,173,169,152,149,148,143,134,130,126,123,123,122,117,116,116,112,112,111,110,109,105,103,98,97,93,92,81,56(injury),26(Injury)

125.69 average without the 2 injury games.
Expect Walsh to get heavily tagged next season can only think of one game he got tagged scored very low score of 71
 

JDavey

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DeBoer also tagged him in round 23, he scored 87 that round.

We play Carlton twice next year too...


I imagine Walsh gets more protection this year with Hewett Cerra and Cripps around now. I also imagine teams have a hard time tagging him as he is just such an endurance beast. Maybe you limit him at stoppages but let him go around the ground - bit like what was done with libba but for a different reason? IDK must be a nightmare for opp coaches to gameplan for.
 

Dominic03

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I imagine Walsh gets more protection this year with Hewett Cerra and Cripps around now. I also imagine teams have a hard time tagging him as he is just such an endurance beast. Maybe you limit him at stoppages but let him go around the ground - bit like what was done with libba but for a different reason? IDK must be a nightmare for opp coaches to gameplan for.
Hewett coming in is a big help for all of their mids, it also helps Cerra who would've been a focus outside of Walsh (If Cripps form continues the same in a poor way). But the big bodies now with Curnow, Cripps and Hewett it looks pretty good around Cerra and Walsh.
 

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WalshistheGOAT

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If Cripps and or Cerra gets back/to AA form how do others see it impacting Walsh's scoring?

I'd say Cripps at his best was a far more dominant force at the coalface but bordered on untaggable during his peak.
Walsh is far more well rounded but much more susceptible to a tag around stoppages.

Who would oppo's tag and would they steal points from each other or add to one another's scoring?

Most 1,2 punches in the league are relatively similar type players such as Trac and Oliver dominating contested ball, Macrae feeds Bont, same with Neale and Lyons.

Cripps and Walsh are almost polar opposites so im struggling to decide what I want to do.

I'm backing Cripps to bounce back but I worry that will impact Walsh's scoring.

Cerra I feel will be complimentary to both but others may have different opinions on him.
 

WaynesWorld19

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If Cripps and or Cerra gets back/to AA form how do others see it impacting Walsh's scoring?
IMO Walsh won't be affected ....he's added 5 kgs to his frame which allows his contested game to improve ....if he maintains his running power, I can't see much difference between him and Touk Touk ......looking at his stats it surprised how many tackles Walsh lays ....just not to the same level YET as Touk, and not as consistently

I'm predicting another level again for Walsh this year ......I'm not convinced Cripps can get back to the same level, game has changed; quicker, more open, less ball-ups and congested play which suited Cripps
 

La Dispute

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IMO Walsh won't be affected ....he's added 5 kgs to his frame which allows his contested game to improve ....if he maintains his running power, I can't see much difference between him and Touk Touk ......looking at his stats it surprised how many tackles Walsh lays ....just not to the same level YET as Touk, and not as consistently

I'm predicting another level again for Walsh this year ......I'm not convinced Cripps can get back to the same level, game has changed; quicker, more open, less ball-ups and congested play which suited Cripps

I think it had a lot more to do with Teague's gameplan than Cripps slowing down. Cripps has always been slow, really slow, the common denominator has been old Teague coming in and playing a rope a dope gamestyle. In 2019 he didn't actually change that much, and allowed Cripps to get to work.

I wont personally be selecting Cripps due to being hurt in 2020 and 2021, but I can see the logic in taking him in anticipation of Voss encouraging a more contested brand of footy which will suit Cripps and tbh $450k could be a steal if he manages to get back to averaging 105-110 which isn't impossible with the weighting CD places on stoppage footy.

Walsh is a no brainer. Extra support on the inside (Hewett), extra support on the outside (Cerra), more time at the stoppages, natural maturation.
 

A Bit Dusty

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I think it had a lot more to do with Teague's gameplan than Cripps slowing down. Cripps has always been slow, really slow, the common denominator has been old Teague coming in and playing a rope a dope gamestyle. In 2019 he didn't actually change that much, and allowed Cripps to get to work.

I wont personally be selecting Cripps due to being hurt in 2020 and 2021, but I can see the logic in taking him in anticipation of Voss encouraging a more contested brand of footy which will suit Cripps and tbh $450k could be a steal if he manages to get back to averaging 105-110 which isn't impossible with the weighting CD places on stoppage footy.

Walsh is a no brainer. Extra support on the inside (Hewett), extra support on the outside (Cerra), more time at the stoppages, natural maturation.

Honestly I don't know what the fuss is about Cripps. For the same money I would much rather get Serong 21 year old now full time mid with No competition and his last 5 rounds last year went at 107.6 :padlock:
 

La Dispute

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Honestly I don't know what the fuss is about Cripps. For the same money I would much rather get Serong 21 year old now full time mid with No competition and his last 5 rounds last year went at 107.6 :padlock:

Why not have both.gif

Serong might be a decent buy and probably hits 100-105+ avg with no Cerra and Fyfe missing/deployed forward.
 

Ingy

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Honestly I don't know what the fuss is about Cripps. For the same money I would much rather get Serong 21 year old now full time mid with No competition and his last 5 rounds last year went at 107.6 :padlock:

Serong scores 50-80 way too often. Needs to become more consistent before I'd think about putting him in my team.

Not that I'd take Cripps either. That spud finished as my M8, kept the campaigner all year. Never again.
 

catstragic

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Clutching at straws with Cripps, but could his scoring be impacted by coaching?
Teague took over mid 2019 as caretaker. He wasnt given the senior job until after the 2019 season.
Average plummeted from 119.4 and 117.1 to 97.5 and 83.5 under Senior Coach Teague.

Mebbe, but more looked like physical limitation to me in 2020. Cripps has never been quick but he was fast enough to at least halve contests then use his strength to take possession. Last year he was getting to the ball second then using his strength to give away a free kick (which aint great from a SC perspective). If he is moving well this pre-season first picked for me.
 

WaynesWorld19

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Mebbe, but more looked like physical limitation to me in 2020. Cripps has never been quick but he was fast enough to at least halve contests then use his strength to take possession. Last year he was getting to the ball second then using his strength to give away a free kick (which aint great from a SC perspective). If he is moving well this pre-season first picked for me.
Cripps has given me nothing but heartburn the last 2 years .....started with him last year, dumped his sorry arse .....then he fooled me leading into his bye ...looked lighter and had 3 good scores, so fool that I am, I brought him back into the side

Once his bye came, he fell into a hole & went back to his old ways .....how do we explain such fluctuations of scoring within a season ?

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Deadly6

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Cripps has given me nothing but heartburn the last 2 years .....started with him last year, dumped his sorry arse .....then he fooled me leading into his bye ...looked lighter and had 3 good scores, so fool that I am, I brought him back into the side

Once his bye came, he fell into a hole & went back to his old ways .....how do we explain such fluctuations of scoring within a season ?

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Gotta be injury, he is/was a gun and you don't lose that overnight, bad game plan or not.
 

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