MRP / Trib. 2022 MRO Discussion

[JADED]

Our 1 decent tackle by a midfielder this year and it's paid a F.A, and gets a week.
FFS.

 

[Rowan18]

Well, all the Kelly haters are about to see how shocking our midfield is without him or Yeo. Hell, even depth players like West are injured.

We might finally get to see Clark on-ball. On second thought, Simmo will probably play Gaff there.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Shoot.

Now we'll only win by 10 goals.

 

[javaguice]

They use the old "potential to cause injury" a bit sporadically, yes\no?

 

[wirra44]

Kelly clearly unlucky to be cited here. Berry’s act of getting a disposal away was a contributing factor to the whole situation. It completely changed the centres of balance of the two players mid tackle and made the whole thing look worse than it was.

should be thrown out.

Would be interesting to see if this would be your response if we beat you on the weekend

 

[javaguice]

Watch Crippa get off for KO'ing a bloke. Less potential?

 

[KERRPOW]

Sorry how does Cotchin get cleared but Kelly is suspended?

Easy. One plays for richmond.

The other for the eagles

 

[KERRPOW]

Can we appeal the appeal.

The afl is really becoming a joke.

Suspensions.decided on the flavour of the month.

 

[The Dodger]

They use the old "potential to cause injury" a bit sporadically, yes\no?

Its a fav of mine.
Because you could apply it to every action they deem reportable but they don't. Then all of a sudden on a fairly average report they tack on the potential injure and it gets across the line for games missed.

 

[wirra44]

Sorry how does Cotchin get cleared but Kelly is suspended?

The arm cotchin pinned was not the arm wines could of used to brace the tackle, Kelly pinned the arm that would of allow berry to brace, pretty simple

 

[The Dodger]

I thought Cotch pinned the free arm? The arm with the ball was still free wasn't it?

Edit - yep watching footage again same situation. Cotchin pins the non footy arm.

 

[javaguice]

They've gone the Robbo defence

 

[javaguice]

But yeah, I am wondering what the point of grading the impact of the offence is if we are actually going on potential to cause injury.

 

[ziad]

I learnt nothing about the AFL from this comedy. In or out is meaningless as we finalise the season with two exhibition games.

What I did learn is that Kelly should be our tackling coach.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Would be interesting to see if this would be your response if we beat you on the weekend

I think we’re both in the same position this time of year where it doesn’t matter. There is every chance we win both our final games and jump three positions up the ladder costing us draft position. A close loss would have probably suited us better from that perspective but with a young list you take every win on the road you can get.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

They've gone the Robbo defence
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Clearly not the same . Willie was contesting a mark with hands out stretched and Rowell wasn't injured.

Cripps was late to a handball over the top not a mark , tucked his arms in to bump and ahchee took no further part in the game . Ahchee misses this week too .

 

[ep2018]

It was a stock standard dangerous tackle, not sure why people are confused he didnt get off.

 

[UseR2006]

""The incident occurred in an aerial contest in which players both had eyes on the ball. There was no bump," O'Farrell said.
"It was reasonable to contest the ball the way he did.
"It wasn't rough conduct, he didn't bump … therefore it was not careless.""

This has to be the dumbest argument i've heard tonight.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

No bump?

The wind knocked him out.

 

[Keys]

It was a stock standard dangerous tackle, not sure why people are confused he didnt get off.

Because plenty of those happen each week and there’s no action taken

Cotchins tackle wasn’t even assessed

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

No bump?

The wind knocked him out.

Could have sworn he left the ground and braced like a bump. Must be seeing things.

 

[DanWCE]

Yeah just had a look. Cotchins tackle was slow. As annoying as it is Kelly did tackle him fast and hard at 360 degrees. It's a 50/50 for suspension.

As you should now. The AFL announced they would be paying HTB if you get spun 360° and don't release the footy. Haven't seen it enforced once since they tooted their horn about it, but absolutely you should try to get the player around 360 degrees as soon as possible as it's the less dangerous way to win a free kick.

Doesn't help when the player tries to dispose of the ball by foot mid tackle.

 

[EagleEgo]

AFL Match Review Officer Calculator

A quick calculator to let you see whether a sanction or tribunal date will apply to a reported offence in the AFL.

mrp-afl.github.io

At the moment the MRP calculator only considers 3 elements: Conduct, Impact and Contact.

AFL brought the fourth element "SIGNIFICANT POTENTIAL" in to claim Kelly‘s action is of medium impact (actually, the impact is low). AFL is wrong and Impact should not be mixed with Likelihood. The two should be considered separately.

If AFL wants to consider the LIKELIHOOD (potential), this calculator needs modification to add in Likelihood as the fourth element. This concept is well defined in the Australian Standard AS 31000 Risk Mangement.

 

[ziad]

As you should now. The AFL announced they would be paying HTB if you get spun 360° and don't release the footy. Haven't seen it enforced once since they tooted their horn about it, but absolutely you should try to get the player around 360 degrees as soon as possible as it's the less dangerous way to win a free kick.

Doesn't help when the player tries to dispose of the ball by foot mid tackle.

Rule has be in for ever - just ignored of late ( years as it isn't good for TV)

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

Carlton would be in some danger of missing the 8 without Cripps. Melbourne must be favourites as well as the Pies.