Play Nice 2022 Non AFL Crowds/Ratings/Finance/Development thread

[BobbyMorri]

Jesus....if there's no Sydney team then it's going to be a disaster. Probably shows how desperate they are for money.

and how desperate Sydney is in getting any events to the city, especially with the new stadium

 

[RedV3x]

I don't think it works for the AFL for instance.

It doesn't - horses for courses, but Ireland is different and that's why I suggested it.
It's a more honest system (for them).
The big teams play the big teams, the little teams play the little teams and middling or extraordinary teams have a chance to move up.
I'd fancy that media worth would increase with the removal of a lot of one-sided games.

 

[RedV3x]

and how desperate Sydney is in getting any events to the city, especially with the new stadium

Well that augers well for Sydney AFL3.

 

[RedV3x]

This is just the NSW government trying to justify spending $800 million dollars on a new stadium that is no bigger than the one they pulled down!

This is like trading in your serviceable car for the new version of the same car with no great benefit.

 

[Teen Wolf]

The sentiment is no different to the AFL.

It clearly is different. The AFL Grand Final is always played at a full house, regardless of the teams involved.

And here's another difference:

locking in Sydney as the host city for the next three men’s and women’s grand finals

 

[Kwality]

It clearly is different. The AFL Grand Final is always played at a full house, regardless of the teams involved.

And here's another difference:

You are quibbling. The AFL deal was a sell out of the national comp paid for by the Victorian taxpayer to benefit the Melbourne Cricket club membership.

 

[Teen Wolf]

You are quibbling.

Is there a small difference between an Adelaide vs Brisbane A-League grand final in Sydney and an Adelaide vs Brisbane AFL grand final in Melbourne, or a big difference?

 

[Kwality]

Is there a small difference between an Adelaide vs Brisbane A-League grand final in Sydney and an Adelaide vs Brisbane AFL grand final in Melbourne, or a big difference?

Those who are able to go to GF after GF in Melbourne retain that right to the exclusion of club members.

 

[The_Wookie]

You are quibbling. The AFL deal was a sell out of the national comp paid for by the Victorian taxpayer to benefit the Melbourne Cricket club membership.

The AFL membership benefits just as much.

But more at least they can point to its consistent use - aside from Wars and Pandemics (and 1 year in 1991 during Southern Stand construction), they've pretty much played all the grand finals there since 1897.

 

[The_Wookie]

The sentiment is no different to the AFL.

There has been no tradition of this is the A-league. The league is 16 years old with no historical biases on venues.

This decision was poor.

 

[Kwality]

There has been no tradition of this is the A-league. The league is 16 years old with no historical biases on venues.

This decision was poor.

Poor for exactly the same reason.

 

[RedV3x]

There has been no tradition of this is the A-league. The league is 16 years old with no historical biases on venues.

Melbourne is the home of Australian Football.
Sydney is the home of Australian rugby league.
The home of soccer would be Canberra.

 

[The_Wookie]

Poor for exactly the same reason.

no, but you keep flogging that dead horse for the next 40 years or so if you like.

 

[Kwality]

no, but you keep flogging that dead horse for the next 40 years or so if you like.

Will not last ......

 

[Kwality]

Well that augers well for Sydney AFL3.

GWS the template ?

 

[Kwality]

No big bounce for the A League post the Socceroos WC involvement! An average of under 6000.
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RESULTS
11/12/22	A-League: Melbourne Victory d Macarthur FC	3,312	Campbelltown Stadium
11/12/22	A-League: Newcastle Jets d Central Coast Mariners	7,078	Industree Group Stadium
10/12/22	A-League: Sydney FC d Melbourne City	14,949	Allianz Stadium
10/12/22	A-League: Perth Glory d Western United	3,893	Macedonia Park
10/12/22	A-League: Wellington Phoenix dr Western Sydney Wanderers	2,502	WIN Stadium
09/12/22	A-League: Brisbane Roar dr Adelaide United	4,258	Kayo Stadium

FYI, Socceroos top second week of summer, while the 2022 FIFA World Cup take key demos

'The 2022 FIFA World Cup match between England and France aired to a metro audience of 401,000 views on Sunday, while also winning all three key advertising demos.

The football match beat Seven’s Cricket: Second Test – Australia vs West Indies game, which brought in a metro audience of 371,000 views.'

'In the latest Daily Consolidated Total TV Report for 4 December, Sunday’s 2022 FIFA World Cup game between Argentina vs Australia was the #1 program nationally across linear, with 1.679 million viewers, including 415,000 on BVOD and an uplift of 33%. This was also the program with the biggest uplift for the week.'

 

[le dominateur]

FYI, Socceroos top second week of summer, while the 2022 FIFA World Cup take key demos

'The 2022 FIFA World Cup match between England and France aired to a metro audience of 401,000 views on Sunday, while also winning all three key advertising demos.

The football match beat Seven’s Cricket: Second Test – Australia vs West Indies game, which brought in a metro audience of 371,000 views.'

'In the latest Daily Consolidated Total TV Report for 4 December, Sunday’s 2022 FIFA World Cup game between Argentina vs Australia was the #1 program nationally across linear, with 1.679 million viewers, including 415,000 on BVOD and an uplift of 33%. This was also the program with the biggest uplift for the week.'

The sleeping giant has awakened. AFL, NRL and Cricket should shut up shop.



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[weewilly]

The AFL membership benefits just as much.

But more at least they can point to its consistent use - aside from Wars and Pandemics (and 1 year in 1991 during Southern Stand construction), they've pretty much played all the grand finals there since 1897.

The was no GF as such in 1897 and the deciding week three matches were not played at the MCG in fact the first GF ever played at the MCG was in 1902 and during WW2 4 GFs were not played at the G 3 were at Princes Park and one at the Junction Oval.
1897 last week of the finals.

Saturday, 4 September	Essendon 1.8 (14)​	def.	Melbourne 0.8 (8)	Lake Oval (crowd: 3,800)
Saturday, 4 September	Geelong 8.4 (52)​	def.	Collingwood 6.12 (48)	EMCG (crowd: 3,000)

Essendon won the premiership for finishing on top of the round-robin finals ladder, no Grand Final was required.

 

[weewilly]

The sleeping giant has awakened. AFL, NRL and Cricket should shut up shop.



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Yeah we will all be roooned!

 

[Milang_Panthers]

6211 in Canberra for the BBL opener

 

[Aussie in exile]

5 Chinese players suspended amid allegations of match fixing

Five Chinese players suspended from World Snooker Tour amid match-fixing investigation

Five Chinese players are suspended from the World Snooker Tour over an ongoing investigation into match-fixing.

www.bbc.com

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Seems you can set your watch by Australian soccer's uncanny ability to once again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory...

At least I learnt the meaning of "ouroboros".

A-Leagues’ grand final furore: football’s latest act of self-sabotage is beyond parody | Joey Lynch

Handed an opportunity to build on World Cup success, the domestic game has quickly descended into an ouroboros of loathing

www.theguardian.com

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

And this. Gee whiz they couldn’t organise a ****ight in a cow paddock.

If there was a World Cup for self-sabotage, Australian soccer would be champions

The A-League should be basking in a post-World Cup afterglow but is instead engulfed in anarchy.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Rob]

Ten owner Paramount in box seat to secure deal for cricket rights

With final bids due on Thursday afternoon, US film studio giant Paramount is leading the race for cricket rights with its offer significantly ahead of Seven and Foxtel.

www.watoday.com.au

I can't see this ending well for cricket unless there is a huge FTA component. If paramount gets a lot of it then cricket is going to lose. The sport (including BBL) doesn't have the fan loyalty of the AFL and NRL and I don't think many will move across to a streaming platform to watch it.

 

[Teen Wolf]

Ten owner Paramount in box seat to secure deal for cricket rights

With final bids due on Thursday afternoon, US film studio giant Paramount is leading the race for cricket rights with its offer significantly ahead of Seven and Foxtel.

www.watoday.com.au

I can't see this ending well for cricket unless there is a huge FTA component. If paramount gets a lot of it then cricket is going to lose. The sport (including BBL) doesn't have the fan loyalty of the AFL and NRL and I don't think many will move across to a streaming platform to watch it.

It's obviously going to be predominantly FTA no matter what.