Prediction 2022 Phantom Drafts

[Obeanie1]

A lot of maybe the Afl did this, maybe that, could have, should have. Not a single sentence about him taking responsibility for his own actions. One strike policy for inflicting violence on a woman. What, are you suggesting there should be two strike, three strike policy. The man has shown to be a terrible human, who it appears does not have ability to learn or to adjust his behavior. It is not the Swan's responsibility to make him an agreeable human. That was primarily parental responsibility and once of age it is his own responsibility.

And as I posted. Times have changed.

 

[Big_Newon]

Got Keeler twice mate

All fixed now apologies

 

[Big_Newon]

With rumours of Hewett circulating if any of them are true I hope the Swans don't touch him with a ten foot pole.

Thoughts on who the swans might target as i was considering Cowan

 

[eth-dog]

Seems good to me.
Realistically, who is Hawthorn's main competition for pick 22 from essendon.
Are you in the box seat to get it or is somebody else a real threat for it.

Most likely we trade it up. Otherwise, maybe St Kilda or Carlton.

 

[PMBangers]

With rumours of Hewett circulating if any of them are true I hope the Swans don't touch him with a ten foot pole.

Would also be an awkward reunion with Angus Sheldrick

 

[Ash1337]

Thoughts on who the swans might target as i was considering Cowan

With the Tassie team coming in he might just as big of a flight risk as Hewett.

 

[eth-dog]

Would also be an awkward reunion with Angus Sheldrick

Could be a Tyson Edwards - Andrew McLeod thing

 

[RUNVS]

Would also be an awkward reunion with Angus Sheldrick

Out of interest why is that?

 

[PMBangers]

Out of interest why is that?

Hewett kicked him him whilst he was on the ground in the WAFL Colts grand final last year

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Hewett kicked him him whilst he was on the ground in the WAFL Colts grand final last year

We could potentially have another o'Hailpin-Cloke situation on our hands.

 

[Obeanie1]

With rumours of Hewett circulating if any of them are true I hope the Swans don't touch him with a ten foot pole.

Why? You dont think the culture at the Swans is good enough?

IMO the Swans are a very likely destination. They have a fantastic track record developing kids, they often draft WA kids and they have multiple late 1st round picks to snap up a quality slidder.

Swans were smashed 8n the GF by bigger mids and that is what they need to address.

All that points towards Hewett as an obvious option for the Swans IMO.

And oh the melts on here would be epic.

Warner, Sheldrick and Hewett together. Three quality WA inside bulls carrying the Swans totheir next flag. And the Eagles could have drafted all of them.

 

[RUNVS]

Why? You dont think the culture at the Swans is good enough?

IMO the Swans are a very likely destination. They have a fantastic track record developing kids, they often draft WA kids and they have multiple late 1st round picks to snap up a quality slidder.

Swans were smashed 8n the GF by bigger mids and that is what they need to address.

All that points towards Hewett as an obvious option for the Swams IMO.

We weren't able to turn Elijah Taylor around. Don't really want to risk a first round pick on someone that could easily not make it due to personality reasons.

 

[Obeanie1]

We weren't able to turn Elijah Taylor around. Don't really want to risk a first round pick on someone that could easily not make it due to personality reasons.

Did the Swans try?

He was shown the door pretty quick. Suggest the AFL strongly endorsed that move.

Domestic violence looks like its a one strike policy in the modern day AFL.

 

[Bloods86]

Why? You dont think the culture at the Swans is good enough?

IMO the Swans are a very likely destination. They have a fantastic track record developing kids, they often draft WA kids and they have multiple late 1st round picks to snap up a quality slidder.

Swans were smashed 8n the GF by bigger mids and that is what they need to address.

All that points towards Hewett as an obvious option for the Swans IMO.

And oh the melts on here would be epic.

Warner, Sheldrick and Hewett together. Three quality WA inside bulls carrying the Swans totheir next flag. And the Eagles could have drafted all of them.

Cats mids were a combined 1cm bigger in the GF, though the extra couple of decades in the gym probably helped. Happy to get a Hustwaite type as a differential (though his hand and foot skills are the main traits I'd want), but whoever we get doesn't have to be tall.

 

[RUNVS]

I did this for the Swans board but I looked back as far as Twomey has been doing phantom drafts before the actual draft and here are his Swans selections

2012 (Pick 23) - Jesse Lonergan

Jesse Lonergan

Age

29

Ht

184cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.1

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

4.5

5star

CL

2.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.4

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

5.8

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.6

5star

CL

2.2

4star

2013 (Pick 15) - Tom Cutler

12

Tom Cutler

Age

29

Ht

192cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.1

4star

K

11.7

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.7

4star

MG

317.5

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

317.5

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

8.4

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

2014 (Pick 18) - Isaac Heeney

5

Isaac Heeney

Age

27

Ht

185cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.7

5star

M

4.9

5star

T

4.1

5star

G

1.0

4star

D

14.3

3star

K

8.8

4star

HB

5.5

3star

M

4.8

4star

T

2.5

3star

G

1.2

5star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.0

4star

2015 (Pick 3) - Callum Mills

14

Callum Mills

Age

27

Ht

188cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

10.8

4star

HB

7.4

5star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.6

3star

D

18.4

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

6.9

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

3.4

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

9.4

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

CL

1.2

4star

2016 (Pick 11) - Jy Simpkin

12

Jy Simpkin

Age

26

Ht

183cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.0

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

8.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.9

4star

D

20.6

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

9.6

5star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.5

4star

CL

5.5

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

0.2

2star

2017 (Pick 14) - Luchie O'Brien
2018 (Pick 7) - Nick Blakey

22

Nick Blakey

Age

24

Ht

196cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.9

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.4

4star

MG

189.1

3star

D

8.1

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.6

4star

MG

189.1

3star

D

7.2

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

2.0

2star

M

1.2

2star

T

1.2

3star

2019 (Pick 5) - Sam Flanders
2020 (Pick 4) - Denver Grainger-Barras
2021 (Pick 18) - Tom Brown

Other than the acadmey kids who pick themselves he has never made a correct selection with the Swans.

 

[Obeanie1]

Cats mids were a combined 1cm bigger in the GF, though the extra couple of decades in the gym probably helped. Happy to get a Hustwaite type as a differential (though his hand and foot skills are the main traits I'd want), but whoever we get doesn't have to be tall.

It not about height but power.

As you pointed out the Cats mids all had mature AFL bodies, and it showed.

Swans losing Kennedy was a big loss. Apart from Warner the other Swans mids just were not big or strong enough.

Sheldrick will help.

A Phillapou or Hewett would as well. Bigger combative ball winners.

 

[Bloods86]

It not about height but power.

As you pointed out the Cats mids all had mature AFL bodies, and it showed.

Swans losing Kennedy was a big loss. Apart from Warner the other Swans mids just were not big or strong enough.

Sheldrick will help.

A Phillapou or Hewett would as well. Bigger combative ball winners.

I think you're missing the point. We had a much younger midfield on average, that is the point. You give our existing midfield, especially Warner and Rowbottom, even Mills given he's relatively recently come into the midfield, that extra time, and I don't think the difference would be as great. It was mental and tactical, probably as much as physical anyway. We managed OK previously against the Cats, and other bigger midfields.

Another mid is fine, Parker only has a couple more years in there, so you'd want a replacement for him. Although we might have to fit Sheldrick and Roberts at some point. They aren't going to be replacing anyone substantially before then, it would just make us younger and less mature. Phillipou won't be available, Hewett has some issues it seems. Rowbottom is slightly taller than Hewett anyway, and isn't someone I'd want to kick out, Warner who you say was the only one big or strong enough, is our shortest mid (until Sheldrick breaks in) and you wouldn't be replacing him.

Anyway, I'd be looking at Hustwaite more than players that we won't get or have behavioural/flight risk issues. He won't be a JPK type, but gives us a different dynamic, and can use the ball well.

 

[Bloods86]

It not about height but power.

As you pointed out the Cats mids all had mature AFL bodies, and it showed.

Swans losing Kennedy was a big loss. Apart from Warner the other Swans mids just were not big or strong enough.

Sheldrick will help.

A Phillapou or Hewett would as well. Bigger combative ball winners.

I would add though that someone like D'Aloia at our 3rd pick might be a good get. I'd just rather get Hustwaite or a couple of talls (since we'll soon have an exodus) with our first rounders.

 

[SmallRoo]

It not about height but power.

As you pointed out the Cats mids all had mature AFL bodies, and it showed.

Swans losing Kennedy was a big loss. Apart from Warner the other Swans mids just were not big or strong enough.

Sheldrick will help.

A Phillapou or Hewett would as well. Bigger combative ball winners.

Exactly look at someone like Prestia

 

[irel]

Did the Swans try?

He was shown the door pretty quick. Suggest the AFL strongly endorsed that move.

Domestic violence looks like its a one strike policy in the modern day AFL.

This comment is intreaging. What should the Swans have done that they did not?

 

[blueiris]

This comment is intreaging. What should the Swans have done that they did not?

some counsling wouldn’t have hurt

 

[RUNVS]

some counsling wouldn’t have hurt

Swans are not responsible for him being an awful person and are not responsible for trying to turn him into a civilised member of society, something that may not be possible anyway since I think since we sacked him he has done it again.

 

[Obeanie1]

This comment is intreaging. What should the Swans have done that they did not?

As I posted I suggest the AFL with the expansion into AFLW and their respect for women initiatives there is a one strike policy with domestic violence cases.

Years ago things were different and clubs, including the Swans, did things differently.

What happened was the guy was sacked and moved on pretty quickly. I am confident that they would have ensured some counselling was provided however I would not at all be surprised the AFL made a call to Swans management and basically said move him on, we don't want his type playing in this competition.

 

[irel]

As I posted I suggest the AFL with the expansion into AFLW and their respect for women initiatives there is a one strike policy with domestic violence cases.

Years ago things were different and clubs, including the Swans, did things differently.

What happened was the guy was sacked and moved on pretty quickly. I am confident that they would have ensured some counselling was provided however I would not at all be surprised the AFL made a call to Swans management and basically said move him on, we don't want his type playing in this competition.

A lot of maybe the Afl did this, maybe that, could have, should have. Not a single sentence about him taking responsibility for his own actions. One strike policy for inflicting violence on a woman. What, are you suggesting there should be two strike, three strike policy. The man has shown to be a terrible human, who it appears does not have ability to learn or to adjust his behavior. It is not the Swan's responsibility to make him an agreeable human. That was primarily parental responsibility and once of age it is his own responsibility.

 

[Jeremias]

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