Strategy 2022 Planning Thread

[Seymour Skinner]

 

[ImissFrosty]

Is it just a case of he has to play somewhere?
yep.
Could you guys draft a hbf?
Maybe. I think a KPD is more likely.
Noble has said he can never have enough mids who run both ways.
JHF will be our first pick.
who knows @20. It seems like there will be a bunch of KPF's available around that mark. we dont really need more of them. so probably another mid or a small forward.
We applied a few days ago to the AFL for a priority pick.
If that happens IDK what we do lol.

you won't get that, just because you finished last doesn't mean you are that bad

 

[Seymour Skinner]

Doubtful if we get CCJ.
Edwards is very skinny.
If CCJ comes in its likely Tom Campbell retires, Xerri plays first ruck in the VFL.
and Edwards/Comben plays KPF in the VFL.

CCJ wanting to play more in the ruck came as a surprise to me.
Thought he was pretty ordinary in the ruck, decent enough to offer a chop out, but seems like he wants to be their to take over from Goldy in the near future.

 

[ImissFrosty]

CCJ wanting to play more in the ruck came as a surprise to me.
Thought he was pretty ordinary in the ruck, decent enough to offer a chop out, but seems like he wants to be their to take over from Goldy in the near future.

reckon he'll be nearly 50/50 split, maybe North play 2 rucks then?

 

[buttox]

you won't get that, just because you finished last doesn't mean you are that bad

Weve won less game over the last 2 years than GC.
GC still have the first pick of the second round as a PP. pick 19.
Gc also have 4 extra players on there rookie list.
North have a good chance of getting both.
we wont get pick 2.
But pick 19 + 4 extra rookies doesnt really affect any other club so i think its obtainable.

 

[ImissFrosty]

Weve won less game over the last 2 years than GC.
GC still have the first pick of the second round as a PP. pick 19.
Gc also have 4 extra players on there rookie list.
North have a good chance of getting both.
we wont get pick 2.
But pick 19 + 4 extra rookies doesnt really affect any other club so i think its obtainable.

i have your list way ahead of Hawthorn, Collingwood and Adelaide. I hope the AFL can look past pure W/L because anybody who watched your second half of the year knows that you don't need it

 

[buttox]

i have your list way ahead of Hawthorn, Collingwood and Adelaide. I hope the AFL can look past pure W/L because anybody who watched your second half of the year knows that you don't need it

The Afl factors in injuries to the equation.
ie if you have a bunch of injuries you dont get a PP as you are better than you have shown.
This is probably were North falls down.

 

[buttox]

CCJ wanting to play more in the ruck came as a surprise to me.
Thought he was pretty ordinary in the ruck, decent enough to offer a chop out, but seems like he wants to be their to take over from Goldy in the near future.

I thought the same about his ruck work tbh.
With no VFL over the last few years Im not sure hes played enough to actually improve.
Richmond have such quality talls hes been stuck in the seconds and most of the games have been cancelled.
+ the tigers having to pay out Premiership bonus's last year in a covid year has left them skint.
North have got very lucky here IMO.

 

[ImissFrosty]

I thought the same about his ruck work tbh.
With no VFL over the last few years Im not sure hes played enough to actually improve.
Richmond have such quality talls hes been stuck in the seconds and most of the games have been cancelled.
+ the tigers having to pay out Premiership bonus's last year in a covid year has left them skint.
North have got very lucky here IMO.

what are you getting CCJ for?

 

[ImissFrosty]

Collingwood finish last next year IMO.
List seriously lacks quality, i think they'll be rookie central next year along with Hawthorn

 

[A Bit Dusty]

i have your list way ahead of Hawthorn, Collingwood and Adelaide. I hope the AFL can look past pure W/L because anybody who watched your second half of the year knows that you don't need it

I agree 100% it is no one else's fault if a team drafts poorly. I'm not saying North have but CCJ is a perfect example he could be a stroke of Genius or a complete bust. Throwing a 4 year deal at $450k a year at a player who has played 8 games should not be rewarded down the track if it fails.

 

[buttox]

what are you getting CCJ for?

it ranges from nothing with a PSD pick to whatever we offer ie bugger all.

 

[ImissFrosty]

I agree 100% it is no one else's fault if a team drafts poorly. I'm not saying North have but CCJ is a perfect example he could be a stroke of Genius or a complete bust. Throwing a 4 year deal at $450k a year at a player who has played 8 games should not be rewarded down the track if it fails.

wait, they're giving him 4 years???

**** that's way too much for him, but it must've been needed to get him out of richmond and north do have the cash to spend

 

[ImissFrosty]

how much is Chol getting at the Suns for reference?

 

[A Bit Dusty]

wait, they're giving him 4 years???

fu** that's way too much for him, but it must've been needed to get him out of richmond and north do have the cash to spend

We are offering 2 years

 

[Soggy2112]

I agree 100% it is no one else's fault if a team drafts poorly. I'm not saying North have but CCJ is a perfect example he could be a stroke of Genius or a complete bust. Throwing a 4 year deal at $450k a year at a player who has played 8 games should not be rewarded down the track if it fails.

CCJ seems like the kind of player who that deal could become a stroke of genius or some serious dead weight for the Roos, hope for their sake it’s a front ended deal.

 

[buttox]

I agree 100% it is no one else's fault if a team drafts poorly. I'm not saying North have but CCJ is a perfect example he could be a stroke of Genius or a complete bust. Throwing a 4 year deal at $450k a year at a player who has played 8 games should not be rewarded down the track if it fails.

He would have already played 50 games if we had drafted him.
If Richmond was playing Xerri or Campbell each week would you not want CCJ?
450k seems a lot but its 80k over the average wage.
Im bloody happy with the selection TBH.

 

[ImissFrosty]

extended contract lengths have varying success. The Dees have been really good with it, long contracts for lesser pay, been done with Viney, Petracca, Harmes, Mcdonald, Gawn, Salem, Lever. All long term but have heard that they undercut big time.

Then you've got Grundy whose contract is a pretty big reason why the pies are the way they are now.

If Richmond were offering 2 at $400k and north offered 4 at $450k that is a concern, although North have the cash to spend

 

[A Bit Dusty]

how much is Chol getting at the Suns for reference?

Not sure on how much money but he was offered 4 years as wel.

 

[buttox]

CCJ seems like the kind of player who that deal could become a stroke of genius or some serious dead weight for the Roos, hope for their sake it’s a front ended deal.

There is only a couple of clubs in the afl with cap room.
North being one of them.
All north deals are front ended. We had enough cap space to offer Jelly crazy money.
Gotta spend it or you lose it.

 

[ImissFrosty]

Not sure on how much money but he was offered 4 years as wel.

look the 2 of them are talented but they've shown nothing so far to suggest they're worth that, they're basically taking the punt that they'll break out. very risky

 

[ImissFrosty]

There is only a couple of clubs in the afl with cap room.
North being one of them.
All north deals are front ended. We had enough cap space to offer Jelly crazy money.
Gotta spend it or you lose it.

i hate that rule, you're just paying players for the sake of it, should be no minimum amount, would make player movement really interesting but then you could see teams tank/play kids a lot more like the NBA

 

[Ingy]

Collingwood finish last next year IMO.
List seriously lacks quality, i think they'll be rookie central next year along with Hawthorn

lol

 

[A Bit Dusty]

look the 2 of them are talented but they've shown nothing so far to suggest they're worth that, they're basically taking the punt that they'll break out. very risky

Yeah I'm not too sad they are both going Chol is lazy and soft and CCJ I don't think will be good enough to be a full time ruck.

 

[buttox]

i hate that rule, you're just paying players for the sake of it, should be no minimum amount, would make player movement really interesting but then you could see teams tank/play kids a lot more like the NBA

I see ccj getting this.
900k, 600k, 150k and 150k.
for a 4 year 450k average.
North have young blokes that will want pay rises in a couple of years.

 

[ImissFrosty]

I see ccj getting this.
900k, 600k, 150k and 150k.
for a 4 year 450k average.
North have young blokes that will want pay rises in a couple of years.

yeah maybe, i'd think it would be flattened out a bit more, don't think the player would want all his cash in one lump sum. Would think it would be closer to 600k 600k 300k 300k.