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Hawthorn and PA will be uncompetitive and consequently most of the top kids they draft next month will leave after two years.Winners:
Hawthorn - by a mile like wtf?
West Coast - Ella Roberts with no way of losing the top "live" pick 9
Port Adelaide - guaranteed Hannah Ewings, plus the first five in the SA pool yes please
If any good player wants to go to Sydney, they just have to nominate for the NSW draft and the Swans can easily take them.Losers:
Sydney - Not being able to trade their first five picks
Adelaide - lost the best player in the game's short history, still lose their first rounder
Bulldogs - I know they weren't giving compensation but geez you don't have to be dead to be stiff
It's as if some of you have amnesia or something. Seems like you're beguiled by high draft picks and forgotten they're fairly meaningless when the solid base isn't there to build around, like we've already seen with Geelong, West Coast etc.
Hawthorn and PA will be uncompetitive and consequently most of the top kids they draft next month will leave after two years.
If any good player wants to go to Sydney, they just have to nominate for the NSW draft and the Swans can easily take them.
Not sure why we're worrying about the Bulldogs when they didn't lose half the quality to expansion that Carlton lost.
But you are talking as if player retention is a given, when the reality is a team with a bunch of high draft picks and insufficient support around them is a curse and not a blessing. The high draft picks are prone to quickly leave for a more competitive team.Firstly, it's in regards to the draft order, ie. these teams are the big winners/losers in regards to the draft order, so don't know why you're suggesting I'm saying that having a good draft hand means these teams will be the contenders or something.
Hawks and Port though disagree. Hawks will be fine with those picks, they get to scoop up four readymade Vic kids who will step straight into a lineup, potentially Ham/Baskaran/Fleming/Clarke/Eardley/Goldsworthy (Bombers will take a couple). Port in a couple of years will be huge, not expecting them to be massive year one, but next year, they'll be fine. Lauren Young and Shineah Goody on top of Hannah Ewings, the SA talent pool is ridiculously strong (2023-24 SA pool draft) and by 2025 I expect they'll be among the better sides.
Hardly an 'if' at this point. All the top players decided against joining Sydney. But it's not too late for them to change their minds because they can still nominate for the NSW draft. So the Swans are not affected at all by their inability to trade their first 5 picks."If any good player wants to go to Sydney"... that's a massive If. Based on their signings compared to the other clubs, they haven't exactly pulled a lot of great players. I personally hope players do want to go there, but as it stands, the high picks in the NSW-ACT pool mean very little compare to the Hawks plethora of picks.
Since you bring up Huntington, it's fair to also mention Carlton are losing their own tall forwards in Jones and Stevens (in addition to having already lost Harris).Bulldogs lost Huntington/Toogood/Lochland compared to Prespakis/Gee (soon to be Egan). Though Prespakis is an elite player and Gee is outstanding, tall forwards (especially dual KPP) don't grow on trees, they also copped it last expansion too. I think Carlton have been stiffed too, but Dogs are worse off long-term
Bump. A bit unfair on Essendon, always a pick after Hawthorn (except after all the bonus priority picks Hawthorn get that the Bombers don't). Should've been reversed each round. Someone at Hawthorn must be holding a few dodgy photos... 6 top 30 picks to 2.Why aren't the new clubs receiving picks using the serpentine method as they are starting from scratch?
E.g. instead of Essendon getting Vic 1+3, and Hawthorn 2+4 (unfair on Hawthorn), Essendon should get Vic 1+4 and Hawthorn 2+3.
Does the quantity inversely reflect the amount of experienced signings from other clubs?Bump. A bit unfair on Essendon, always a pick after Hawthorn (except after all the bonus priority picks Hawthorn get that the Bombers don't). Should've been reversed each round. Someone at Hawthorn must be holding a few dodgy photos... 6 top 30 picks to 2.
I think they've just allocated us a ladder finish of 15th based on the quality of players we brought in. Not super fussed about it at this point (sorry not to be salty though ahaha).Bump. A bit unfair on Essendon, always a pick after Hawthorn (except after all the bonus priority picks Hawthorn get that the Bombers don't). Should've been reversed each round. Someone at Hawthorn must be holding a few dodgy photos... 6 top 30 picks to 2.
GM is Josh Vanderloo who was at the AFL previously...Someone at Hawthorn must be holding a few dodgy photos
BOTH West Coast and Gold Coast have the ability to sign up to four open-age players in the current AFLW Sign and Trade Period, while St Kilda can re-list Irish defender Clara Fitzpatrick as part of list concessions.
The three clubs applied to the AFL Commission for special assistance and were granted the following:
Fitzpatrick was on St Kilda's list in 2020, playing five of a possible six games and impressing in her role as a key defender.
- Gold Coast can pre-sign up to four mature-age (born prior to 2004) players who have previously nominated for the NAB AFLW Draft. The Suns have also received an end-of-second-round compensation pick (currently No.49 nationally, No.3 in Queensland)
- St Kilda can relist Clara Fitzpatrick, and received a compensation pick in the first round (currently No.28, No.15 in Victoria) with the proviso the pick be used to trade for a player (already traded to Carlton for Nicola Stevens)
- West Coast can pre-sign up to four mature-age players who have previously nominated for the draft, as well as two first-round compensation picks (Nos.15 and 36, Nos.2 and 4 in Western Australia) and one end-of-second-round pick (No.48, No.6 in Western Australia)
She missed the 2021 AFLW season due to visa issues, and was delisted following a ruptured ACL suffered while playing Gaelic Football in June, 2021.
West Coast has won a cumulative four matches across its 25 games over three seasons, Gold Coast has won five (and two draws) from its 26 and St Kilda has won seven of its 25.
3pm on Day 7 and the Trade Period is DONE. Today's confirmed trades are:
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- North Melbourne trade Kaitlyn Ashmore to Hawthorn for Pick 51
- Carlton trade Courtney Jones to Gold Coast SUNS for Pick 49
- Hawthorn trade Pick 18 to Carlton for Pick 25, Pick 28 and Pick 55
- West Coast Eagles trade Grace Kelly to St Kilda for Pick 54
- North Melbourne trade Daisy Bateman and Pick 74 to the Western Bulldogs for Pick 72 and Pick 90
- Hawthorn trade Pick 28, Pick 52 and Pick 55 to North Melbourne for Pick 26 and Pick 72
- West Coast Eagles trade Niamh Kelly and Amber Ward to the Adelaide Crows for Jessica Sedunary and Pick 43
- Adelaide Crows trade Nikki Gore and Pick 60 to Fremantle for Pick 40 and Pick 75
Have also cross-referenced it against the official draft order that they've published, everything matches up except that they haven't put the Petrevski trade in properly (Pick 50 and 77 are the wrong way around on their version).
Got to echo this one. This thread has been the only thing keeping my head above water tracking this trade period. You're a superstar, Lore.Much appreciated Lore, I come here before I go to the AFL app now.
We'll know for sure how many picks each club has on Saturday when the draft order is confirmed, I think the last day for delisting was before list lodgement 2 last Thursday, so now that the rookies are sorted they'll tally it all up and see what is going on. Still have father-daughter nominations to come today as well.Plenty of rookie signings and some clarification of delistings dropping this week which makes it easier to approximate the draft order based on available list spots.
Are we expecting any FDs? I know Charlotte Simpson is a possibility for the Cats (and a remote possibility for the Saints) as well as Makenzie McGrath for the Cats. Do we know of any other possibilities?We'll know for sure how many picks each club has on Saturday when the draft order is confirmed, I think the last day for delisting was before list lodgement 2 last Thursday, so now that the rookies are sorted they'll tally it all up and see what is going on. Still have father-daughter nominations to come today as well.
Do you know if they can put Wakfer straight on the inactive list (assuming they draft her)? Could they potentially make another pick (or pass) at the draft, or would they have to wait to sign someone after?I suspect they'll take between 5-6 and then fill the gaps with undrafted players from interstate