List Mgmt. 2022 Trade and Free Agency Thread

[Sproj]

Latest article on AFL.com suggests Dusty wants out of Melbourne and to a non-fishbowl existence...should we make the enquiry?

 

[Nuggo]

We should but he has Sydney written all over him

 

[beardancer]

[Dusty] Want's to move North..........Are we in?

 

[Nathan Barley]

Not sure he really suits our needs. Brayshaw might be better

 

[Dalions]

Pick 18 will be traded out for a heap of later picks, 2nds and 3rds.

That will only work if we have the draft picks available by delistings or trades.

Latest article on AFL.com suggests Dusty wants out of Melbourne and to a non-fishbowl existence...should we make the enquiry?

We wouldn’t have any where near enough room in the cap.
My understanding is that he is on something like 1.2-1.4 mil.

 

[BuntonRules]

That will only work if we have the draft picks available by delistings or trades.

We wouldn’t have any where near enough room in the cap.
My understanding is that he is on something like 1.2-1.4 mil.

The new Buddy.

 

[Nathan Barley]

The new Buddy.

Offer him 2.9mil over 9 years?

 

[M Malice]

Not sure he really suits our needs. Brayshaw might be better

Yep, would definitely prefer 27 year old free agent Angus Brayshaw who plays a role of definite need ie. elite 2 way running balanced mid than Dusty who will be turning 32 years of age mid next season.

No way I could see either happening anyway so a moot point.

 

[briztoon]

Which is an interesting point for people to remember - we need to have open list spots corresponding to the number of live picks we want to count towards Ashcroft and Fletcher.

Some of that may be by delisting and re-listing players, but that's always a risk (cf: Greenwood, Hugh) and we've already been pretty aggressive in doing so with marginal guys already.

I believe we can match Ashcroft with 4 picks (if we have the right picks/points).

We would still have 3 late draft picks after matching, and could trade pick/s back in for future pick/s, depending where the bid comes for Fletcher.

 

[LIONS08]

I believe we can match Ashcroft with 4 picks (if we have the right picks/points).

We would still have 3 late draft picks after matching, and could trade pick/s back in for future pick/s, depending where the bid comes for Fletcher.

Not sure if this was cleared up elsewhere but can’t you only take as many picks to the draft as list spots available? There would have to be a fair few delisting for this to occur

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Yep, when you think about it if a team bid on Ashcroft at 1 and we matched the player they took at number 2 would probably be a bit miffed knowing he was 2nd choice and could have been the number 1 selection and also picked up the IIRC 10K he would have got from NAB for that honour.

Maybe. I'd imagine Riley Thilthorpe didn't care too much since he got to play for his favourite team and didn't have to move interstate. That might be worth more to him than $10k.

 

[SizeMatters]

If Neale leaves at end of year (gut feel is he will put feelers out again) I'd go hard at Dusty.

 

[briztoon]

Not sure if this was cleared up elsewhere but can’t you only take as many picks to the draft as list spots available? There would have to be a fair few delisting for this to occur

That is correct.

I can easily see 4 or 5 senior list spots being available, if we’re not trading any one in.

 

[Dalions]

If Neale leaves at end of year (gut feel is he will put feelers out again) I'd go hard at Dusty.

It is a possibility but he seems very invested at the moment.

 

[briztoon]

Maybe. I'd imagine Riley Thilthorpe didn't care too much since he got to play for his favourite team and didn't have to move interstate. That might be worth more to him than $10k.

It’s only a $5k loss, as picks 2 to 4 receive $5k bonuses.

 

[dlanod]

Not sure if this was cleared up elsewhere but can’t you only take as many picks to the draft as list spots available? There would have to be a fair few delisting for this to occur

Yep, that's my point too.

That's why we might see a full cleanout of uncontracted guys, which at a minimum would look like:

• Ely Smith
• Ryan Lester (maybe to the rookie list)
• Connor McFadyen
• Mitch Robinson
• Tom Fullarton
• One or more of Blake Coleman/Henry Smith

And possible losses, if offered elsewhere, of some of:

• Thomas Berry
• Deven Robertson
• Jaxon Prior

 

[Gadzorks]

This chat, and the photos of the indigenous players with there three babies this week, and the other boys with babies a year old make me think these father son/ daughter issues will repeat themselves many times.

Mitch got in young with his babies so Chance and Charlie will have had a pretty clear run at it. And zorks bit of a bit older. Who else has kids two and over? Rich? Anyone got a list handy?

 

[martinson]

Dusty has just made it clear he doesn't really want to play footy anymore but the money's too good to pass up.

Massive mistake to anyone who coughs up what he would want at his age.

 

[SizeMatters]

It is a possibility but he seems very invested at the moment.

You'd hope so. But word is that Neale is very much about Neale. It's all a business to him. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[martinson]

You'd hope so. But word is that Neale is very much about Neale. It's all a business to him. Nothing wrong with that.

He is. I don't mind. He's complete professional and doesn't get overly emotionally invested like many do. Unlike most others who are all about themselves he's a total team player who always does the team thing. He's a rare best who can totally commit without punishing himself over it if it doesn't work out.

The results are plain to see and we're lucky to have him

 

[Warwick]

I know it’s been the rule for a couple of years but I don’t get why you can only take the number of picks that you have spaces. What does it matter? If you don’t use those picks, everyone moves up. It all comes out in the wash.

 

[briztoon]

I know it’s been the rule for a couple of years but I don’t get why you can only take the number of picks that you have spaces. What does it matter? If you don’t use those picks, everyone moves up. It all comes out in the wash.

Because the northern academy clubs were trading their high picks for multiple low picks to match bids, and some clubs whinged, because they didn’t get in on the trades and benefit from moving up the draft.

 

[blueiris]

If Neale leaves at end of year (gut feel is he will put feelers out again) I'd go hard at Dusty.

Neale is apparently on $600k
Dusty is on $1.5 Million not sure where we find an extra $900k

 

[Nathan Barley]

Neale is apparently on $600k
Dusty is on $1.5 Million not sure where we find an extra $900k

Dustys value isn't the same as it used to be

 

[Mighty Lions]

Lots of variables.
Ashcroft and Fletcher have to nominate as FS. If so, probably 1,20 are close to worst case scenario.
What is happening with McStay? Possibly end of first round compo if (I hope not) he leaves
Other potential trades either way
I’m hoping we have the nominal 18th pick
Any other first round compos/priority picks, that may push us back
In others words, let’s wait and see how things pan out

The McStay one is fascinating.
I believe the offer he has on the table from Collingwood is a 5 year term and triggered for him to earn $600K each year. That's a fantastic offer to someone who has never played the #1 key forward role in the time i have seen him move into the forward line. Should McStay take accept the offer, Collingwood will be looking at McStay playing the #1 Key Forward role and he will more than likely have the oppositions best defender every week.....not sure he's up for that but also not sure he thinks he would be up for that either.