List Mgmt. 2022 Trade, Draft, etc thread

[Scythe94]

Dory_77 – might be worth pinning this? Gets updated after every move.

 

[Topkent]

Your point about premiership window was dumb as dog s**t and you know it.

That's the point.

Way to get rattled over nothing

Hes not gonna be involved in this era it's a long term investment if it comes off. Weird thing to get triggered by

 

[TresNad169]

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Was busy for the whole thing, what did I miss?

We took Matt Jefferson at pick 15.

You can check out some of his highlights here:

 

[mrmonkey]

I'm just more pessimistic because we needed a key forward which means we were more likely to roll the dice on a player, combine that with how desperate we were to move on the pick and this feels like a * it let's see what he can do rather than a s**t yeah we got our man.

I agree he clearly wasn't first preference but I don't think it was a * it let's just pick him situation, I think they generally rate him but know he will take a long time.

 

[Bluelegs]

Jason Taylor wanted to get up a little bit higher in the draft to get Jefferson according to Cal Twomey. Also, WCE were super keen on Jefferson. if he was a WA kid then WA would've got him.

It's usually me that bashes players. Jason Taylor deserves more credibility. Taylor is a no nonsense guy. He would've seen something in Jefferson that gave him the confidence to pick him early.

I hope we pick up another key forward with 37. Or trade up and get Gruzcewski

So the club knew no one rated Jefferson in the top 20 so we tried to move up the draft so we could get a better player and Jefferson as steak knives? Hardly inspires confidence

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Highly underrated trade by Norf.
GWS the only club who rated Cadman 1 so Norf traded 1 and in return got the 2 players they rated 1 and 2

Cadman is a beast, I reckon it worked out great for both clubs. Win/win.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

You're basically agreeing with everything I'm saying but choosing to be weird about it.

Its true, just with a favourable Melbourne twist.

He wants to go hard and say I dont like the pick but isn't committed.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Like for the first time ever I kinda want a top draft pick to bust just to avoid the relentless bullshit gloating if he plays even mildly well.

This is commitment

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Personally I hope Jefferson works out, I couldn't give a s**t if Danster liked him pre draft or not.

I do think he has some tools to work with for sure, a lot of elite straights for his size, but his soft waiting out the back of packs s**t instead of spoiling when out of position is a massive red flag to me, all good KPF have the eye of the tiger and are competitive, I just dont see it.

Time will tell. A lot of time.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Positives, we still have two first round picks next year, could easily fill a KPF void and trade for a ready made one if we desired, lots of good KPF prospects in next years draft too that could have an earlier impact than Jefferson.

We did assess this draft as weak, thats why we only went in with two picks. Guess if you believe its weak sitting on your hands and making a long term play isn't that bad..maybe

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Im all aboard the JVR train, have been since seeing his pre draft tape, that guy competes like an animal. I think playing as a KPD as well as a KPF is good for any juniors development.

 

[Topkent]

Positives, we still have two first round picks next year, could easily fill a KPF void and trade for a ready made one if we desired, lots of good KPF prospects in next years draft too that could have an earlier impact than Jefferson.

We did assess this draft as weak, thats why we only went in with two picks. Guess if you believe its weak sitting on your hands and making a long term play isn't that bad..maybe

I just hope the supporters and the club don't look at Jefferson as the key forward saviour and instead use him as a 3rd tall while he develops, get him up the ground etc.
If that means Grundy and Gawn sit deep to take the heat then so be it

 

[Topkent]

Im all aboard the JVR train that guy competes like an animal. I think playing as a KPD as well as a KPF is good for any juniors development.

Defenders have to learn how to body. I love it as a tool

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

instead use him as a 3rd tall while he develops, get him up the ground

This is the roll I see him playing long term despite his height. Maybe he can become a Westoff type. I just dont see his frame getting as big as most hope. Some guys just cant put on weight.

 

[Topkent]

This is the roll I see him playing long term despite his height. Maybe he can become a Westoff type. I just dont see his frame getting as big as most hope. Some guys just cant put on weight.

Especially in this era when you need to be able to run 20km a game aswell as carrying muscle

 

[pjfairbairn]

This is commitment

#demonspirit

 

[LarryDavidNeitz]

I don't really ever have confidence that a skinny key forward is going to work out, but that's no personal knock on Jefferson.

What I do quite like from his highlights is he kicks a few from snaps and his ground ball work seems pretty good for his size. Looks a footballer rather than just a tall campaigner. Likely to be a few years before we know if this was a good pick though.

 

[Andy_Mac]

Jack Fitzpatrick

Jack Fitzpatrick

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

96kg

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Ruck

Career

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Last 5

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9.3

2star

K

5.8

2star

HB

3.4

3star

CL

0.8

3star

HO

5.5

5star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

4.2

5star

v2.0

 

[The Dr]

Highly underrated trade by Norf.
GWS the only club who rated Cadman 1 so Norf traded 1 and in return got the 2 players they rated 1 and 2

Yeah I rate their haul bigtime too. Both their picks last night could definitely end up being better than JHF - their highlights (risky to judge on them, I know) look incredible.

 

[schmuttt]

Can we still get the kid who moved out of home at 16?

 

[Bluelegs]

We took Matt Jefferson at pick 15.

You can check out some of his highlights here:

I can't believe you're judging Lucas Cook on 2 minutes of pre-draft footage!

 

[Bluelegs]

Can we still get the kid who moved out of home at 16?

We'd have to trade up I would've thought.

 

[schmuttt]

We'd have to trade up I would've thought.

Any idea what time it starts today?

 

[Bluelegs]

Any idea what time it starts today?

From AFL site.

 

[schmuttt]

From AFL site.

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6:30 lol. I actually feel bad for all the prospective draftees they’d be wrecks waiting for this.

 

[Scythe94]

Thought I'd check in to see what Saints fans thought about their pick. It's almost as if Phillipou wrote this himself