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List Mgmt. 2022 Trade, Draft, etc thread

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Obviously a KPF is a more pressing need, however, if Jackson goes for picks and we get Grundy in for not much in the way of draft capital with Coll paying a decent chunk of salary, it's not terrible. He'd still be an upgrade on Jackson.

It's one thing to want a star KPF, it's another for one to actually be available
 
Grundy would be awful. He’s a gun when on song but serious recent injuries, large contract and one dimensional. Would also cost a decent amount of draft capital.
It'd effectively be a salary dump for Collingwood, so doubt the draft picks would be worth all that much
 

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Obviously a KPF is a more pressing need, however, if Jackson goes for picks and we get Grundy in for not much in the way of draft capital with Coll paying a decent chunk of salary, it's not terrible. He'd still be an upgrade on Jackson.

It's one thing to want a star KPF, it's another for one to actually be available

He might be a slight upgrade on Jackson, but he might not be. His form and body has been a huge concern for two years. Plus I can't see how he and Gawn coexist in the same team - Grundy has only ever been a No.1 ruck with zero forward presence.

Hard pass for me. If we can't find a gun KPF this off-season we should just hold fire until the following trade period, rather than fitting in a NQR piece of our puzzle.


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Ooooooh so we can bring him in after he misses the whole preseason due to injury and can't train with the forwards, then we can tear him to shreds for being an awful KPF next year.

I like it
I mentioned it a while back when mooted a few weeks ago from Matty Rendell, I thought it was a bit coocoo at the time, mainly due his contact length. Rendell suggested that the idea is to have Grundy come in and play more ruck and Gawn plays more forward. From what I saw on Friday Gawn forward doesn't exactly excite me either.
 
Without Jackson our back-up ruck options are absolutely grim (cheers Weid), that’s surely the thinking around Grundy. He was a gun, not sure about now though.
 
he's on a million a year, even with a discount thats still going to be a huge price tag for a bloke that can barely get into collingwoods best 22.
 
Without Jackson our back-up ruck options are absolutely grim (cheers Weid), that’s surely the thinking around Grundy. He was a gun, not sure about now though.

Don't need a gun ruck to win flags. You can find the best state league ruck and they compete well enough.

Plus, I assume we'll get Meek as steak knives as last of the Jackson trade.


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he's on a million a year, even with a discount thats still going to be a huge price tag for a bloke that can barely get into collingwoods best 22.
He’s one of their best players lol. He’s just injured a lot. Which is an issue. But I’ll back the club if they think he’s a good fit.
 

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I mentioned it a while back when mooted a few weeks ago from Matty Rendell, I thought it was a bit coocoo at the time, mainly due his contact length. Rendell suggested that the idea is to have Grundy come in and play more ruck and Gawn plays more forward. From what I saw on Friday Gawn forward doesn't exactly excite me either.
Stuff that I'm sending it full Danster, I floated it on here first and then that campaigner bloody stole the idea. That's right Rendell you filthy grub
 
He’s one of their best players lol. He’s just injured a lot. Which is an issue. But I’ll back the club if they think he’s a good fit.

he's not injured alot. 20+ games each season the last 6 years, only this year has been cooked. he just offers nothing except be a tap ruckman which isn't even remotely worth the price tag. if he came to melbourne it would be to alternate forward like jackson does, except he offers basically nothing whenever he's moved there, so all we'd be doing is getting another jackson without the ground level skills and 10 years older. there's a reason collingwood are trying to offload him.
 
I'd wanna see the deal first, if pies are flogging him for a pick in the 30s and we can re negotiate his deal, maybe add a year and pay alot up front with the Jackson money it's probably fine.

Everyone's demanding a KPF but there's an easy to see reality where none are available.
 
he's not injured alot. 20+ games each season the last 6 years, only this year has been cooked. he just offers nothing except be a tap ruckman which isn't even remotely worth the price tag. if he came to melbourne it would be to alternate forward like jackson does, except he offers basically nothing whenever he's moved there, so all we'd be doing is getting another jackson without the ground level skills and 10 years older. there's a reason collingwood are trying to offload him.
Lol grundys not my favourite player but he's the very opposite of a tap ruckman, at his best he was probably the elite version of what Jackson is trying to be.
 
Lol grundys not my favourite player but he's the very opposite of a tap ruckman, at his best he was probably the elite version of what Jackson is trying to be.

at his best being the key words. he's nowhere near that anymore, and hasnt been even while fit. unless it's a huge discount (like half or more), they'd be insane to commit to him, as he has a huge contract left with collingwood.


If grundy was still worth anything near what he's being payed, collingwood wouldn't be trying to offload him.
 
at his best being the key words. he's nowhere near that anymore, and hasnt been even while fit. unless it's a huge discount (like half or more), they'd be insane to commit to him, as he has a huge contract left with collingwood.


If grundy was still worth anything near what he's being payed, collingwood wouldn't be trying to offload him.
At his best he was worth a first and second round pick which we won't be paying so your points kinda irrelevant. Until I hear what the deal looks like not gonna melt.

People assume we can get Fogarty or McDonald or Larkey, there's always a chance we've reached out and the best available is Lobb or Josh Bruce.
 

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It really isn't a good year to lose Jackson. Unless WCE get involved, we aren't looking at any high draft picks and there really are dregs that are available in regards to gettable players. It is what it is but it feels like we're not going to get a huge haul out of him leaving.

Yeh it’s not looking good at all.

I just can’t see how Freo get the draft capital to compensate us so unless there’s a quality player on their list keen to move, I feel like we are going to be pretty flat with any Jackson trade.
 
In terms of available forward talent there is not much. Richmond missed out on a premiership then managed to get lynch, unfortunately for us there isn't anything out there, not even a peter Wright not getting games.
 
I reckon there would definitely be some talented KPFs who are gettable, just depends what we are willing to give up.
Elliott Himmelberg, McStay, Lobb, Riccardi, Koschitzke, Bruce would probably be the realistically gettable ones off the top of my head. None inspire confidence.
 
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