List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Thread - Part I

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L_W_P

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We keep playing Paddy Ryder until we find another Paddy Ryder.

It's a massive call at a critical time for this team: Is a Marshall/Hayes combo enough to win us a premiership or do we need Ryder to go full Clark Keating and only play from round 18 onwards for a year or two.

The third option is we hunt for a replacement, something the club has done a couple of times with approaches to both Sam Draper and Tristian Xerri but who's available?

One of Reilly O'Brien or Keiran Strachan from Adelaide?
Flynn or Briggs from GWS?
Lloyd Meek from the Dockers?

Would having any of them as our #1 ruck, with Marshall playing forward, be any better than the Marshall/Hayes combo?

If I was making the call I think we take a mature tap ruck in the mid season draft to develop with Heath, back in Marshall/Hayes for next year, and hope that we can manage Paddy into September for a shot at the flag.
 

rynoshark

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Oct 6, 2009
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It's a massive call at a critical time for this team: Is a Marshall/Hayes combo enough to win us a premiership or do we need Ryder to go full Clark Keating and only play from round 18 onwards for a year or two.

The third option is we hunt for a replacement, something the club has done a couple of times with approaches to both Sam Draper and Tristian Xerri but who's available?

One of Reilly O'Brien or Keiran Strachan from Adelaide?
Flynn or Briggs from GWS?
Lloyd Meek from the Dockers?

Would having any of them as our #1 ruck, with Marshall playing forward, be any better than the Marshall/Hayes combo?

If I was making the call I think we take a mature tap ruck in the mid season draft to develop with Heath, back in Marshall/Hayes for next year, and hope that we can manage Paddy into September for a shot at the flag.

Agree it’s a big decision. Hopefully Ryder goes on. Others likely to disagree, but I think recruiting Lobb (if available) would be a very smart decision. Could partner with King fans a pure tall forward but also pinch hit in Ruck with Marshall when Ryder is out. We are a kicking team and should play to our strengths. That height will stretch teams and I don’t think is unreasonable. Basically, like the team v cats but Lobb in place of Sharman (who still needs time to develop).
 

gringo2011

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It's a massive call at a critical time for this team: Is a Marshall/Hayes combo enough to win us a premiership or do we need Ryder to go full Clark Keating and only play from round 18 onwards for a year or two.

The third option is we hunt for a replacement, something the club has done a couple of times with approaches to both Sam Draper and Tristian Xerri but who's available?

One of Reilly O'Brien or Keiran Strachan from Adelaide?
Flynn or Briggs from GWS?
Lloyd Meek from the Dockers?

Would having any of them as our #1 ruck, with Marshall playing forward, be any better than the Marshall/Hayes combo?

If I was making the call I think we take a mature tap ruck in the mid season draft to develop with Heath, back in Marshall/Hayes for next year, and hope that we can manage Paddy into September for a shot at the flag.


Get McBean from the SANFL and we have a Hayes replacement ruck forward.

 

SaintsSeptember

TheBrownDog
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Would he be keen to come on a 6 month contract though, knowing he will likely only get that

a) He would still be a chance for more ( at the Saints or elsewhere ) if he made a good impression.
b) We CAN pay more than the minimum rookie wage if we choose. I guess a lot of it depends how settled he is in his normal life.

Found an internet stalking site that suggests he might be fairly easy going when it comes to moving around.

 

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Dr Spaceman

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Lobb just really lacks competitiveness IMO

Although he has played a few good games this year. He seems like the type that needs things going his way.
Would not fit in with the “no oversized, poorly tattooed, weird headed, club hopping, sooky la la player policy”; which the club doesn’t have, but which I do.

So that’s a no from me 👎
 

pebblesofsand

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Lobb, McBean - how many more ruckmen do we need on our list?

Barring some catastrophe, it looks like Ryder will go around again next year, then we'll still have Marshall, Campbell, Hayes and Max Heath.

Unless there's a more than competent 27 yo who is happy to play for minimun chips, we may as well keep Campbell for another year.
 

gringo2011

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Lobb, McBean - how many more ruckmen do we need on our list?

Barring some catastrophe, it looks like Ryder will go around again next year, then we'll still have Marshall, Campbell, Hayes and Max Heath.

Unless there's a more than competent 27 yo who is happy to play for minimun chips, we may as well keep Campbell for another year.


Both are forward rucks more than pure rucks.
 

sunny3193

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Sep 28, 2016
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gringo2011 if I recall correctly, you were very hot on Jayden Stephenson in his draft year (remembering Collingwood selected him with the pick before ours # Hunter Clark).
This week the likely penultimate wooden spooner has dropped him, which leads to the questions.
Do you still believe that he would be a good fit for us?
And if so, at what trade price (knowing he is still carrying that Collingwood contract extension)?
 

phantom13

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gringo2011 if I recall correctly, you were very hot on Jayden Stephenson in his draft year (remembering Collingwood selected him with the pick before ours # Hunter Clark).
This week the likely penultimate wooden spooner has dropped him, which leads to the questions.
Do you still believe that he would be a good fit for us?
And if so, at what trade price (knowing he is still carrying that Collingwood contract extension)?
Stephos off field stuff aside his under 18 and first year we’re absolutely stellar. I’d suggest that in a better culture than Collingwood and a better system than North hes still be producing good footy and would be a lovely fit in our team.
 

SaintsSeptember

TheBrownDog
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gringo2011 if I recall correctly, you were very hot on Jayden Stephenson in his draft year (remembering Collingwood selected him with the pick before ours # Hunter Clark).
This week the likely penultimate wooden spooner has dropped him, which leads to the questions.
Do you still believe that he would be a good fit for us?
And if so, at what trade price (knowing he is still carrying that Collingwood contract extension)?

Saints dropped Nick Dal Santo. Didn't mean we were going to trade him.
 

gringo2011

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gringo2011 if I recall correctly, you were very hot on Jayden Stephenson in his draft year (remembering Collingwood selected him with the pick before ours # Hunter Clark).
This week the likely penultimate wooden spooner has dropped him, which leads to the questions.
Do you still believe that he would be a good fit for us?
And if so, at what trade price (knowing he is still carrying that Collingwood contract extension)?


He's a potential star playing in a s**t side and looks lazy and unmotivated. Literally the worst choice of clubs to land at. He's a big game player in a rudderless ship. He should have stayed at the Pies but they needed cap space. I think he'd be worth a second rounder now. I'd take him over DeGoey, he's got more development and would flourish in a finals side. The only issue for us is he might be too much like Snags.




 

SWSainter

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Apr 1, 2019
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Any news on Fisher McAsey? Cant seem to get a game at Adelaide, even this week. Was supposedly looking at returning to Vic last year? Seems like a good fit for us 197cm, 20yo.
 

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