List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Thread - Part II

[Ads734]

Review is actually the only interesting and important thing in this post season so far. A better run club attracts better players and success, Geelong and the Swans are a great example of this. All the Clark and Norf stuff is minor step stones and side tracks.

It starts with a defined culture, strong development and consistant leadership. The BS recruitment of players from other clubs to the detriment of our own guys we've drafted is a case in point. In addition, there is no st kilda brand or identity.

 

[Yawkey way]

The Clarko effect. It's causing delusion and an inflated sense of being that is only existing in a tenuous virtual state. Their cockiness is only erect due to this football version of Mexican Viagra. It may have serious and perhaps debilitating side effects. At the moment we have noticed a highly irrational brain fever that is causing an inflated sense of identity and conflated sense of purpose. As yet, nothing has been shown or seen to be standing up. We will look on and monitor the situation closely, but right now it can be assumed that their cockiness will soon be rendered impotent.
That three-peat of Clarko's was a long time ago in the footy world.
A lot has changed.

Anyhoo... here's Tom with the weather.

Just read about clarko and his little gangs alleged activities whilst in charge at hawthorn. If what’s been reported is in fact true then Clarkson and Fagan both have some serious problems, 5 years for clarko could turn out to be an absolute disaster.

 

[Yawkey way]

Hard to see Clark or anyone wanting to go to North any time soon…

S**t about to get real in the life of old mate Clarko.

Needs to go if it’s true, full stop get out.

 

[Veer Right]

And yet quite a few on here (no names, cough cough) wanted us to jump on Clarkson.

It’s often said that something is “typically St Kilda”.

However there could be no more “typically St Kilda” than to sack Ratts and pay him out, hire Clarkson for 5 years at ridiculous dollars only to be looking around for a new coach several weeks later.

Sad for Roos, but thank f@#k it wasn’t us [emoji50]‍[emoji100]

Who says we have escaped this with Ratten serving alongside Clarko for six years. Time will tell if he had any involvement.

 

[Yawkey way]

Feel sorry for the Roos. It’s been one thing after the other for them in the last 5 years and just when they were seeming to right their ship, they have the wind taken out of their sails again.
Not sure where this leaves them.

Nothing to do with north the afl should be scrambling hard to help them.

 

[Grav]

Who says we have escaped this with Ratten serving alongside Clarko for six years. Time will tell if he had any involvement.

Hope the Long wanting out & the rumours that Hill wants a trade are not related.

 

[gubby88]

Who says we have escaped this with Ratten serving alongside Clarko for six years. Time will tell if he had any involvement.

Yeah, that was my first thought. Ratten was there at the time as a senior assistant I believe, so you would assume would have seen this stuff first hand

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[BrutThough]

Who says we have escaped this with Ratten serving alongside Clarko for six years. Time will tell if he had any involvement.

David Rath too. And was the Hawthorn leadership group involved - Jarryd Roughead?

 

[botts]

Hope the Long wanting out & the rumours that Hill wants a trade are not related.

Na ratts is the reason hill wanted to come to the saints

 

[Veer Right]

Hope the Long wanting out & the rumours that Hill wants a trade are not related.

You make a good point with our indigenous exodus.

 

[Joffaboy]

Holy shitballs, this is appalling if substantiated.
If anybody at our club did this they would be gone in a second in my view.

Wonder what Brad Hill thinks,? No wonder Cyril Rioli won't go back.

Tell another human to kill his kid, the Kent thinks he is King Solomon.
No sympathy for North. Hope they fold.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Who says we have escaped this with Ratten serving alongside Clarko for six years. Time will tell if he had any involvement.

Difference being if Ratten was involved and had to stand down, about 50% of those on this forum would be happy.

 

[_Maximus_12]

Difference being if Ratten was involved and had to stand down, about 50% of those on this forum would be happy.

And the other 50% would be ecstatic

 

[stavro#4]

Christ.

That’s terrible. Horrible.

If this is 100% true. The people responsible need to walk away from the game.

 

[gubby88]

Difference being if Ratten was involved and had to stand down, about 50% of those on this forum would be happy.

If ratten is found to be involved then 100% would be fine with it

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[ScrappyDo]

The journo has been careful enough with the allegations and l don't think Ratts will be in the gun unless more comes out.
Clarko and Fages will be stood down and the AFL will move to limit fallout. Cut and burn.

 

[Joffaboy]

You make a good point with our indigenous exodus.

So Paddy was lying when he said he loves the place, Kyle was barely there, and Hill had gone nowhere as yet.
Aunty Katrina must be in on it.

 

[gubby88]

The journo has been careful enough with the allegations and l don't think Ratts will be in the gun unless more comes out.
Clarko and Fages will be stood down and the AFL will move to limit fallout. Cut and burn.

Just when Gil thought it was safe to lean back on his chaor, have a brandy and cigar and reminisce about his time as chief....this thing rears its head

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[gubby88]

You make a good point with our indigenous exodus.

I don't think that's the case. Ryder and Hill wouldn't have come in the first place if that was the case

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[Jesuswasacarpenter]

I think we stay around where we are at best
Also don’t think we should be relying on the 3 kids for the improvement it’s not fair on them

He doesn’t wanna leave is what I heard today

Maybe this is the rocket he needs if he not putting in the same effort as his club peers are to get the most out of himself.

 

[Veer Right]

I don't think that's the case. Ryder and Hill wouldn't have come in the first place if that was the case

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Perhaps this has only come to light recently? We will find out in due course. I strongly prefer it's not the case as our club doesn't need this.

 

[lewdogs]

And yet quite a few on here (no names, cough cough) wanted us to jump on Clarkson.

It’s often said that something is “typically St Kilda”.

However there could be no more “typically St Kilda” than to sack Ratts and pay him out, hire Clarkson for 5 years at ridiculous dollars only to be looking around for a new coach several weeks later.

Sad for Roos, but thank f@#k it wasn’t us [emoji50]‍[emoji100]

But we didn't know about all of this so it's still gross negligence and incompetence on our part amirite.

We should be in the thick of this, more incompetence from our leaders.

 

[moirae42]

That is an amazing read.

 

[botts]

Maybe this is the rocket he needs if he not putting in the same effort as his club peers are to get the most out of himself.

I think it could be a win win. We won’t trade him unless we get something good in return and if he does stay could be a wake up call for him. Maybe we are
Doing this for a reason. Just wish I knew what it was

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Difference being if Ratten was involved and had to stand down, about 50% of those on this forum would be happy.

If ratten is found to be involved then 100% would be fine with it

Just clarify my post, yes 100% would be fine with Ratten being removed if he was found to be involved.

My 50% is in regards to those simply being happy that Ratten was no longer coaching our side based on their views on his coaching ability.