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List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Thread - Part II

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Just had a flash back to the 2013 draft, and realised that our first 3 picks had/have ugly/slow/awkward ball drop when kicking

Then we draft an old school full forward and lumbering defender next draft

Hilarious that McKenzie ended up the best of 6 top 22 picks in back to back drafts

Sorry to be stuck in the past, but what a horrific start to a rebuild

We laugh at Dodo, but he snatched Merrett out of the back of that 2013 draft, after Acres, Dunstan, and Billings.
 
Some expert on the radio suggested Hill to North for a token late pick and we'll pay a chunk of his salary.

Da fug?? Media treating us with disdain again. Although, our shonky trading in recent times has probably proved them correct more often than not.
Our trading has been fine but we are slowly destroying the guys we took.
Snags, Jones, Hill and Butts are now all shadows of the players we recruited. Doogs probably isn't as good either.
 

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Here is Kent's VFL stat page. Why was he picked?


Peris was more deserving of a game.

The last time i can remember giving such a cooked player a send off was Kosi.
Difference being that Kosi was a StKilda icon for over a decade.
Kent never made it past the fringe.

Did those imbeciles think that the fans, disgruntled at not making finals, would go all warm and fuzzy if we gave a couple of fringe players a last game?
Exactly, don’t give 2 hoots about Hannebury and Kent (if they were Riewoldt or a long term St Kilda player, it would have been different).. just shows Ratts is all about fake sentiments and does not set high standards.. even if it’s the last game of the season, I would put Bytel in and give Connelly a game.. at least one of them maybe the future.
 
Some expert on the radio suggested Hill to North for a token late pick and we'll pay a chunk of his salary.

Da fug?? Media treating us with disdain again. Although, our shonky trading in recent times has probably proved them correct more often than not.
If Hill gets traded I think that's the kind of deal we should prepare ourselves for. See Treloar.
 
Exactly, don’t give 2 hoots about Hannebury and Kent (if they were Riewoldt or a long term St Kilda player, it would have been different).. just shows Ratts is all about fake sentiments and does not set high standards.. even if it’s the last game of the season, I would put Bytel in and give Connelly a game.. at least one of them maybe the future.
Tom Curren Syndrome - the idea that a VFL player is being unfairly maligned when in reality they're not good enough.
 
Some expert on the radio suggested Hill to North for a token late pick and we'll pay a chunk of his salary.

Da fug?? Media treating us with disdain again. Although, our shonky trading in recent times has probably proved them correct more often than not.
How is the media being realistic about Hill's worth treating the club with distain again?
 

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Exactly, don’t give 2 hoots about Hannebury and Kent (if they were Riewoldt or a long term St Kilda player, it would have been different).. just shows Ratts is all about fake sentiments and does not set high standards.. even if it’s the last game of the season, I would put Bytel in and give Connelly a game.. at least one of them maybe the future.
Maybe you don't care but the players who are out there were happy to see Kent end his career reaching the 100 game milestone.
 
Would Clarkson really want Hill at North- his best footy was before he came to the Saints, and Clarko would be looking at building a new team around young talent.
 
Rivals will come hard for Essendon back-up ruckman Nick Bryan given his impressive VFL form and Sam Draper’s emergence as the clear No. 1 ruck at the Dons.

Clubs looking for ruckmen across the competition will find them in short supply as they await word about the intentions of Brodie Grundy, who has been linked to multiple clubs including Melbourne, GWS and Geelong.

Bryan played five AFL games this year but averaged 100 ranking points, 32 hitouts and eight hitouts to advantage in the Essendon VFL.

St Kilda is one of many clubs keen to secure a ruck-forward with Bryan, the No. 38 pick in the 2019 draft, contracted but with strong interest.

GWS is not sure if either of Keiren Briggs or Matt Flynn will turn into an A grade ruckman as they work through their list requirements, with Braydon Preuss enduring another topsy-turvy year.

It means clubs will consider whether they can drag Fremantle’s Lloyd Meek, Sydney’s Joel Amarty and Hayden McLean and Bryan from their clubs.

What it could take to get Brad Hill to Roos?

Brad Hill is keen for a new start in part to reunite at North Melbourne with Alastair Clarkson but also to play in a position that maximises his strengths.

The Herald Sun revealed last week Hill had been in regular contact with his former coach Clarkson about a move to the Roos in what would effectively form a salary dump.

Hill believes his talents haven’t been utilised as best they could playing half back and half forward.

And there remains some discontent about the events of the round 15 game which he missed through personal issues, with the club denying it was connected to him being at a Mordialloc pub that weekend.

St Kilda great Nick Riewoldt said on Fox Footy last week a deal where St Kilda got a mid-30s pick and paid around $300,000 of his $800,000-plus salary would be a fair swap.

Alternatively the Roos could pay more of the deal — he has three more seasons left — but only hand back a late pick.

St Kilda is being urged by past players to consider all scenarios, including even putting Jade Gresham on the table to see what rivals might throw at an injury-prone player who has managed only 32 games in the past three years.


 
Would Clarkson really want Hill at North- his best footy was before he came to the Saints, and Clarko would be looking at building a new team around young talent.
Clarko spent his last few years at Hawthorn topping up with older players instead of bringing in the younger players they needed so it would be consistent with what he likes to do.
 

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Some expert on the radio suggested Hill to North for a token late pick and we'll pay a chunk of his salary.

Da fug?? Media treating us with disdain again. Although, our shonky trading in recent times has probably proved them correct more often than not.


The St Kilda recruiters mustn't be seen as the sharpest tools in the shed.
 
We laugh at Dodo, but he snatched Merrett out of the back of that 2013 draft, after Acres, Dunstan, and Billings.
Yeah we were really stiff in that draft.

Instead of Billings, Dunstan and Acres, I was really really really hoping that Tom Boyd, Ben Lennon and Darcy Lang had slipped to our picks. Would have set us up for years!!!!

(Insert irony emoji here ......)
 
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Rivals will come hard for Essendon back-up ruckman Nick Bryan given his impressive VFL form and Sam Draper’s emergence as the clear No. 1 ruck at the Dons.

Clubs looking for ruckmen across the competition will find them in short supply as they await word about the intentions of Brodie Grundy, who has been linked to multiple clubs including Melbourne, GWS and Geelong.

Bryan played five AFL games this year but averaged 100 ranking points, 32 hitouts and eight hitouts to advantage in the Essendon VFL.

St Kilda is one of many clubs keen to secure a ruck-forward with Bryan, the No. 38 pick in the 2019 draft, contracted but with strong interest.

GWS is not sure if either of Keiren Briggs or Matt Flynn will turn into an A grade ruckman as they work through their list requirements, with Braydon Preuss enduring another topsy-turvy year.

It means clubs will consider whether they can drag Fremantle’s Lloyd Meek, Sydney’s Joel Amarty and Hayden McLean and Bryan from their clubs.

What it could take to get Brad Hill to Roos?

Brad Hill is keen for a new start in part to reunite at North Melbourne with Alastair Clarkson but also to play in a position that maximises his strengths.

The Herald Sun revealed last week Hill had been in regular contact with his former coach Clarkson about a move to the Roos in what would effectively form a salary dump.

Hill believes his talents haven’t been utilised as best they could playing half back and half forward.

And there remains some discontent about the events of the round 15 game which he missed through personal issues, with the club denying it was connected to him being at a Mordialloc pub that weekend.

St Kilda great Nick Riewoldt said on Fox Footy last week a deal where St Kilda got a mid-30s pick and paid around $300,000 of his $800,000-plus salary would be a fair swap.

Alternatively the Roos could pay more of the deal — he has three more seasons left — but only hand back a late pick.

St Kilda is being urged by past players to consider all scenarios, including even putting Jade Gresham on the table to see what rivals might throw at an injury-prone player who has managed only 32 games in the past three years.




Hopefully that's just click bait because if we get a late pick and pay his wage we need to kick out Gags and Lethlean.
 
Would Clarkson really want Hill at North- his best footy was before he came to the Saints, and Clarko would be looking at building a new team around young talent.


We have played him out of position and wanted him to be a more contested player. He'll go back to being a gun at a club that uses him. Ratts plays a game style that doesn't rate run and carry anywhere but off HBF. He wants to play like WCE or Geelong from a few years back. Kick, mark slow build up shit. Hill was what Richo wanted and we decided to keep chasing even after we changed coaches and paid through the roof for him. Terrible trade.
 
Hopefully that's just click bait because if we get a late pick and pay his wage we need to kick out Gags and Lethlean.
Precedence in these types of trades don't care that you are overrating Hill's worth or like to find excuses to sack everyone. He will got the the low amount him and his contract is worth.
 
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