2022-Where’s the improvement coming from?

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CatToTheFuture

Brownlow Medallist
Aug 18, 2018
10,886
16,546
AFL Club
Geelong
Max Holmes had a better first year at the club than Dangerfield's first year at the Crows. For some minor context. Holmes also played his first year at same Height/Weight as Dangerfield @ 189cn and 83kgs. Let's hope he can put on the same size and not lose speed.

Let's see if Holmes can get to a 1 goal a game average in year 2 like Dangerfield did. Though Dangerfield did start his career mainly as a forward. Dangerfield was a best 22 player and a decent one at year 2, but it wasn't until probably his 5th season that he elevated to gun status.
A lot of players had a better first year than Dangerfield given he was still studying in Geelong and playing TAC cup at the Falcons for most of it.

Still, he does seem to have similar physical characteristics and a similar thirst at stoppages.
 

MacStradbroke

Premiership Player
Jul 19, 2015
4,963
11,429
AFL Club
Geelong
Max Holmes had a better first year at the club than Dangerfield's first year at the Crows. For some minor context. Holmes also played his first year at same Height/Weight as Dangerfield @ 189cn and 83kgs. Let's hope he can put on the same size and not lose speed.

Let's see if Holmes can get to a 1 goal a game average in year 2 like Dangerfield did. Though Dangerfield did start his career mainly as a forward. Dangerfield was a best 22 player and a decent one at year 2, but it wasn't until probably his 5th season that he elevated to gun status.
First season comparison is tough with Danger still in school and only playing a couple of games by memory. Don’t mind it otherwise. Danger only averaged low 60s champion data points second and third seasons and Max has already achieved that in year one coming from next to nothing. Obviously Danger elevated to megastar status but Holmes looking good early.

Really looking forward to watching his progress.
 

CatRiot

Norm Smith Medallist
Oct 3, 2014
6,493
8,301
AFL Club
Geelong
We need a superstar at the club. Hope its Holmes, but he strikes more like an Isaac Smith type than a Dangerfield type, but either way, I'd be happy with either outcome.

They need all the recruits in the gym, hammering this sort of music it to pump them to the max. We need a bit of that 1980s electric footy back. Bring it on.

 

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Drunkcat

Premiership Player
Aug 31, 2018
4,739
6,331
Wagga Wagga
AFL Club
Geelong
We need a superstar at the club. Hope its Holmes, but he strikes more like an Isaac Smith type than a Dangerfield type, but either way, I'd be happy with either outcome.

They need all the recruits in the gym, hammering this sort of music it to pump them to the max. We need a bit of that 1980s electric footy back. Bring it on.


The next guy we go wow will be SDK, but the next superstar will take time, we have a few kids that could be anything but need 50 games into them Now we need patience.
 

mcwilrob

Premiership Player
Jul 13, 2008
4,065
2,824
Brisbane
AFL Club
Geelong
One word. Pressure.

We've built a midfield of aging stars - who are either clearly in decline, or poor defensively - a patchwork of recruits from other leagues, mature agers, with only a handful of genuine draftees that have been developed and in what you could call their 'prime'. That probably only covers Guthrie and Duncan and they're getting on as well. Like the team itself, it's good enough to get the job done during home and away, especially at Geelong or against lower quality opposition (and those two factors provide a lot of wins). They get found wanting when the temperature goes up in September. No one wants to admit they've become brittle and frontrunners, especially the stars, so it's easier to invent or exaggerate excuses.

It's much simpler. They aren't as good as we want to believe. That goes for Selwood and Dangerfield as much as Parfitt and O'Connor.
Yep - agreed - wilting under pressure is what all the evidence points to. Just look at the losses we had (esp. finals)
 

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