Resource 2023 AFL Draft Discussion...

[maxlilly]

Are we sure this is the primary reason ....or are there other factors in his game ?

I think Nicks prefers those contested types of players at the expense of skillful players who play on the outside.
I also think Cook is played out of position

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I think Nicks prefers those contested types of players at the expense of skillful players who play on the outside.
I also think Cook is played out of position

Nicks doesn't want contested types over skilled players .....otherwise why take Rankine

No ...he wants skillful types who can win their own ball ....but importantly work their arses off ....something Cook IMO doesn't do

Is he played out of position .....yes

 

[maxlilly]

Cook does have some special traits but that’s not the reason he isn’t being played

Cool isn’t being played because he isn’t consistent enough even in the things he does well

The club has played him Wing, HF and as a running HB to try and get him to be more consistent with his weapons, and he has struggled for consistency




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I think he struggles for consistency because he isn't a HBF or a winger, I think he is a forward.
It reminds me of when we played Fogarty in the backlines 'to get him into the game'
A lot of players will struggle with their game when played out of position

 

[rabidcrow]

Not the crows style to delist someone under contract

Luke Brown?


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[maxlilly]

Mmmm.....given it'll take Leak 2-3 years to establish himself & gain the necessary fitness / strength .....means we would only get 1-2 years true service

That's what we all said about Michaelanny

 

[Danger in Texas]

Reid is different , more like Dusty than Bont but he would be just as good at half back , mid or half forward

Hodge

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Luke Brown?


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Delisted or retired ? Can’t remember him saying he wanted to play on or play for anyone else

Could be wrong though

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Well then .....let's not dangle meat out to the ravaging dogs .....it's an even draft, reduce the risk by not picking
Tasmanians

Hell, every year we talk about choosing Vic Country lads over Vic Metro ....now we want to pick an almost certain escapee ???

Some of the best players in the draft are tasmanians

After watching the national champs I’d rather have a don’t draft any SA players outside of Goad policy

 

[Sanders]

I think Nicks prefers those contested types of players at the expense of skillful players who play on the outside.
I also think Cook is played out of position

My sense is that Cook is a conditional player, that chooses when to compete and when not.

He needs consistency in his intensity

 

[119others]

Well then .....let's not dangle meat out to the ravaging dogs .....it's an even draft, reduce the risk by not picking
Tasmanians

Hell, every year we talk about choosing Vic Country lads over Vic Metro ....now we want to pick an almost certain escapee ???

It’s a fair call.any 50/50 type decisions likely take the non Tassie lad. Hence some may possibly slide

 

[maxlilly]

My sense is that Cook is a conditional player, that chooses when to compete and when not.

He needs consistency in his intensity

It does look that way sometimes.
I also think he has a laconic playing style which regularly bring questions about intensity

 

[119others]

Luke Brown?


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Negotiated outcome due to injuries wasn’t it?

 

[Crows I Am]

But we haven't been playing Sholl ?
I'd love to see Nankervis given a good run in the wing role, I think he is well suited to the position.
I wonder how long we keep playing Soligo there before he goes to the inside midfielder.
And we had Jones playing wing before his injury.
And we will need to squeeze Smith and Sloane in there somewhere

Smith and Sloane shouldn't come into consideration when talking about trying to fit a new draftee into the team. They won't be around for much longer.

We are drafting these kids to be a part of our team for the next 10-12 years, not to fill a need next year. If he gets games in his first year then that's a bonus.

 

[Big Dub]

I think he struggles for consistency because he isn't a HBF or a winger, I think he is a forward.
It reminds me of when we played Fogarty in the backlines 'to get him into the game'
A lot of players will struggle with their game when played out of position

He may play better as a forward, but it doesn't look likely that he will break into our forward line. So for us, playing him as a forward doesn't make much sense at the moment.

 

[Jirkago75]

A grade inside mid for mine

He’s better in traffic than in space

I believe his kicking is elite and better suited to wing


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[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I think he struggles for consistency because he isn't a HBF or a winger, I think he is a forward.
It reminds me of when we played Fogarty in the backlines 'to get him into the game'
A lot of players will struggle with their game when played out of position

Yep, and forwards aren't consistent by nature especially small and medium forwards

We prefer someone who's consistently average

 

[Draft Bored]

You serious ? Played every game in a top 8 team last year and was barely 18 yo


The closest possible thing to Bont in the league going forward

Yeah I'm serious. Sure people on Big Footy know him but regular one team supporting, armchair non-members would have NFI unless they followed StK. All of us know him but we're the 1%.

If you compare someone like Rachele to Phillipou... if Rachele was uncontracted at the end of next year every newspaper in Melbourne would be writing about it already. Nobody is going to write anything about Phillipou until half way into the season if he's still unsigned.

 

[maxlilly]

He may play better as a forward, but it doesn't look likely that he will break into our forward line. So for us, playing him as a forward doesn't make much sense at the moment.

But a spot up forward has just opened up with McAdam leaving.
I think that is his best opportunity to secure a place in the team

 

[crows dude]

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In Twomeys Mock Draft top 20 video

Leake with our first pick by Kevin Sheean - A Doedee type by the sounds of things.

2nd bids on Mcabe - Another defender. Twomey matches

2nd Pick harry Demattia Mid/Forward

 

[Danger in Texas]

Twomey linking us to the following players in his final form guide:
Curtin
O’Sullivan
Windsor
Leake
Wilson
Tholstrup
McCabe (bid)
DeMattia
C Edwards
Goad

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Twomey linking us to the following players in his final form guide:
Curtin
O’Sullivan
Windsor
Leake
Wilson
Tholstrup
McCabe (bid)
DeMattia
C Edwards
Goad

TBF .....anyone would come up with that list of names ....no skill required

 

[latinoheat]

Twomey linking us to the following players in his final form guide:

Curtin
O’Sullivan
Windsor
Leake
Wilson
Tholstrup
McCabe (bid)
DeMattia
C Edwards
Goad

 

[finn]

I think Nicks prefers those contested types of players at the expense of skillful players who play on the outside.
I also think Cook is played out of position

My thought is that it’s Not just Nicks. Look at the other coaches as well with Burns, Van Berlo, Bello, Clarke etc who were all effort players. The way you played forms an integral part of the way you coach sub-consciously and the types of players you pick.
Certainly laconic looking players get marked harder than honest triers even if they’ve working as hard.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Only one there I see as a bit of a stretch is Edwards, the rest are obviously seen as being in our hitting zone with the picks we hold. Don't really think he has a real concrete clue or he'd have cut that list down some.

I assume the list is to cover all 3 of our picks .....does the fact there are 2 Rucks in the list of 10, add any further weight to us taking a RUCK with either #14 or #20

 

[eaglevision]

Pardon the interruption but for the blokes who have been interested/posting on this topic previously, it’s sounding increasing likely the phone line between our clubs will be well truly open on draft night involving a pick swap including our F1s… Watch this space.