Resource 2023 AFL Draft Discussion...

[1990crow]

It would be the cherry on top that could elevate his game further.

Don’t reckon the height matters

 

[Jeffcrowe]

It would be the cherry on top that could elevate his game further.

Prob ends up fog / Tex height

 

[Danger in Texas]

Don’t reckon the height matters

Welsh/Fog/RT seems like a dream forward combo, honestly

Welsh can play as a 3rd tall when RT is forward, but also seems to play above his height well enough to act as a CHF/FF if needed

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Welshy can now get on his bike and peddle to Panther Park to play U18s for the Eagles.

 

[Danger in Texas]

That would depend if you class George Stevens as a half back because he was way better than those you mentioned spending time down back and some on ball.

I thought Stevens spent generally more time up the ground, hence why I didn’t group him with them

Absolutely one of Vic C’s best though

 

[Peter Doherty]

Nope. If you can't get excited about Tyler Welsh there's literally no point being a crows fan.

I guess you're no longer saying pick 1, that's something.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

So that was Vic Countries first match. Maybe not as strong as previous years.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

I guess you're no longer saying pick 1, that's something.

Thats his first match in the U18's. Pick 1 is a a high possibly in next year's list atm. Midfielders normally get that posi though.

 

[GrommoT]

Thats his first match in the U18's. Pick 1 is a a high possibly in next year's list atm. Midfielders normally get that posi though.

If he's pick 1 next year, we would have effectively* two pick 1s in our forward line!


*TT would have been pick 1 if we didn't strategically bid on JUH and WB was possibly not going to match

 

[Crow_68]

All looks pretty straight forward to me:

Gold Coasts 2023/1 for our 2024/1
Ship this pick together with our 2023/1, one of our 2023/2s and McAdam to West Coast for the rights to Harley Reid.

 

[rabidcrow]

If he's pick 1 next year, we would have effectively* two pick 1s in our forward line!


*TT would have been pick 1 if we didn't strategically bid on JUH and WB was possibly not going to match

He won’t be pick one. Very impressive today and knew where to be but if as a medium/big forward gotta clunk some decent contested marks and he didn’t really show that today. He is not a true KPF so I can’t see him being top 5

I realise he has show good contested marking traits at SANFL junior level but need to see it up with the big boys


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[Eagleboy2011]

He won’t be pick one. Very impressive today and knew where to be but if as a medium/big forward gotta clunk some decent contested marks and he didn’t really show that today. He is not a true KPF so I can’t see him being top 5

I realise he has show good contested marking traits at SANFL junior level but need to see it up with the big boys


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He will be playing seniors for WWT this year and next. They promote their kids early. Examples Luko, Mead,Vince. Reddan.Jones.

 

[earlsta]

He will be playing seniors for WWT this year and next. They promote their kids early. Examples Luko, Mead,Vince. Reddan.Jones.

If he plays seniors SANFL this year, he won’t be able to play for AFC 2s next year will he?

 

[Eagleboy2011]

If he plays seniors SANFL this year, he won’t be able to play for AFC 2s next year will he?

OK by me. Thats what I want.

 

[Bearded Clam]

OK by me. Thats what I want.

Id rather he play seconds for us next year.. get in early and get used to all the traits of his future team mates..

And, more importantly, straight under the wing and guidance of Mr Darren Burgess… who I’m sure would already have him on a plan.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Don’t reckon the height matters

At 189cm he aint gonna be the modern type KPF.

Nowhere near it.

And looking at his build he may not have any upwards growth left to do.. plenty of kids his age dont.. they stop growing taller and start growing outward putting on bulk.

He’ll be a medium forward… as long as he’s mobile enough.. medium forwards these days cover a lot of ground working up and back on the field.

If he comes to us at years end and can play SANFL for us next year.. I Reckon we should get him on a Burgess fitness program and see what he can do with some runs through the midfield.. a highly skilled lad like him at 189cm might make a very good big bodied mid/forward..

 

[Crow-eater]

At 189cm he aint gonna be the modern type KPF.

Nowhere near it.

And looking at his build he may not have any upwards growth left to do.. plenty of kids his age dont.. they stop growing taller and start growing outward putting on bulk.

He’ll be a medium forward… as long as he’s mobile enough.. medium forwards these days cover a lot of ground working up and back on the field.

If he comes to us at years end and can play SANFL for us next year.. I Reckon we should get him on a Burgess fitness program and see what he can do with some runs through the midfield.. a highly skilled lad like him at 189cm might make a very good big bodied mid/forward..

The coverage today had him listed at 191cm and 91kg. It seems he may have grown a couple of cm over the off-season.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

At 189cm he aint gonna be the modern type KPF.

Nowhere near it.

And looking at his build he may not have any upwards growth left to do.. plenty of kids his age dont.. they stop growing taller and start growing outward putting on bulk.

He’ll be a medium forward… as long as he’s mobile enough.. medium forwards these days cover a lot of ground working up and back on the field.

If he comes to us at years end and can play SANFL for us next year.. I Reckon we should get him on a Burgess fitness program and see what he can do with some runs through the midfield.. a highly skilled lad like him at 189cm might make a very good big bodied mid/forward..

He’s 191cm already
Tipping he plays at 192-193 similar to tex and Fog

Jack Darling is a good comparison because he runs well , has power and is aggressive

 

[hugecannon]

Dream scenario he becomes a JDG explosive mid/forward.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

If he plays seniors SANFL this year, he won’t be able to play for AFC 2s next year will he?

Exactly

Eagles won’t let him just go and play for us

He will be playing seniors with them in next 18 months

 

[Bearded Clam]

The coverage today had him listed at 191cm and 91kg. It seems he may have grown a couple of cm over the off-season.

And what are most KPF’s these days..

195 all the way up to 205cm..

in the last few years they have just continued to get taller and taller.. as have their corresponding KPD’s..

He just may grow another 4-5cm.. but he may not.

But if he doesnt he’s gonna be a Gollant type size..

I see Gollant as a medium forward type.. not as a KPF Tex Walker/Riley Thilthorpe type..

Wouldn’t you?..

 

[Bearded Clam]

Exactly

Eagles won’t let him just go and play for us

He will be playing seniors with them in next 18 months

Unless he plays for the eagles seniors this year then the eagles wont have any say in it.. he doesnt even have to ask their permission.

If he does play seniors we’re stuffed..

So you’d expect the eagles will try and name and field him in atleast one eagles game this year.. just to fxxk us over..

But he could say “thanks, but no thanks”.. and deny them cause he wants to go to the crows next year and get in early.

Or the sanfl change the rules… again!..

 

[Bearded Clam]

He’s 191cm already
Tipping he plays at 192-193 similar to tex and Fog

Jack Darling is a good comparison because he runs well , has power and is aggressive

Tex and fog are 195cm

I think fog may even be a little taller than tex now days.. certainly seems so when the stand next to each other on the ground..

Haha.. but tex could be starting to shrink with age!..

I just think the days of 185-195cm KPF’s are over.. Darling may be the last of them..

The large majority, if not all, are 195cm and above these days..

Hard to believe looking back 20-30 years ago KPF’s were so short… guys like Dunstall and ablett snr were only 185-190cm.. Lockett was only 191cm.

Todays KPD’s would tower over these lads!

 

[Bearded Clam]

How many of these 200cm gorillas you talk of can boast a 2.92 20m....He'll beat almost all 200cm KPD's on the lead for starters, did you not see the turn of pace he showed when he put the jets on in the last goal he kicked today.

He is a way way different package to Gollant both on speed and strength.

But not everything for a KPF happens “on the lead” these days.

Again.. todays kpf’s arent like those of yesteryear.. everything dunstall and lockett did was off the back of strong leads..

Teams flood back faster into defense these days quickly plugging all the holes KPF’s can lead into making it more about contested marks in packs..

Being taller brings the advantage.. especially if your KPD opponent is 198cm tall!..

 

[FR0GGY]

How many of these 200cm gorillas you talk of can boast a 2.92 20m....He'll beat almost all 200cm KPD's on the lead for starters, did you not see the turn of pace he showed when he put the jets on in the last goal he kicked today.

He is a way way different package to Gollant both on speed and strength.

First time I’ve seen him today (only the last qtr or so), he’s quick is he?