Resource 2023 AFL Draft Discussion...

[maxlilly]

Hamish seems to think this is the deepest a draft has gone in terms of the "half back" position believes there's like 15 quality prospects in just that position this draft

Hamish loves himself a half back flanker
There goes our first round pick

 

[GreyCrow]

I went back and checked the 2019 Draft thread - Will Day wasnt even in the poll and the most votes went for Fischer

Draft experts indeed

Then again I clicked Brodie Kemp even as I liked Serong but looking back I think I was seduced by Kemps height v Serong

 

[PeterSalt]

I think it's interesting that in last couple of years of interviews with Ogilvie and Reid they often mention a plan. Seemingly the plan started coming together immediately post the club review.

And then I remember the 2016 draft. Ogilvie/Reid leaning towards English. Pyke says he needs a bit of speed and midfield depth. Gallucci and Poholke incoming. 2017 draft and Gibbs, with Fagan jumping in?

 

[GrommoT]

Hamish loves himself a half back flanker
There goes our first round pick

 

[GreyCrow]

Yeah, Lachie Ash was who I was hoping for before we traded down, at that time I thought we were still a chance at 6 until it became pretty obvious McAsey was list management's target.

66 games to date and at nearly 22 is improving each year and looks to be on a nice trajectory

 

[PeterSalt]

I honestly thought he'd be more dominant than he has been, liked his run and dare, also had the hard edge to go with it. Maybe if he'd gone to a different club I always thought he had midfield traits but that was never happening at GWS with their midfield depth...it was obvious GWS saw him as a Heath Shaw replacement.

Drafting .. sometimes wonder how much of a roll of the dice it is for the young fellas as well depending on where they finish up

 

[StonesThrow]

I went back and checked the 2019 Draft thread - Will Day wasnt even in the poll and the most votes went for Fischer

Draft experts indeed

Then again I clicked Brodie Kemp even as I liked Serong but looking back I think I was seduced by Kemps height v Serong

I was keen on Day but thought he would probably go 10-20 where we didn't have a pick. He was also a half back and I didn't think he'd move into the midfield so easily.

 

[skam85]

I honestly thought he'd be more dominant than he has been, liked his run and dare, also had the hard edge to go with it. Maybe if he'd gone to a different club I always thought he had midfield traits but that was never happening at GWS with their midfield depth...it was obvious GWS saw him as a Heath Shaw replacement.

I feel like (not to the same extent) there was also a bit of a Chayce Jones treatment there, shifting him around, Leon Cameron used him as a tagger for a lot of last year which I think took a way a lot of his dare and made him more dour. Seems to be coming back this year though

 

[1990crow]

My weekend is sorted.
Watch the sanfl tonight, Tyler Welsh tomorrow and the Crows on Sunday.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Hopefully someone in the range of one of our second rounders.

The other second rounder needs to be used on a ruck or KPP as we've neglected our tall stocks.

There’s Philactides likely then , as is the taller SA boy Patton who sort of plays in a Mitch hinge style

Will try think of some others but they’re the most obvious in the 2nd round area

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I went back and checked the 2019 Draft thread - Will Day wasnt even in the poll and the most votes went for Fischer

Draft experts indeed

Then again I clicked Brodie Kemp even as I liked Serong but looking back I think I was seduced by Kemps height v Serong

Check the comments re Will Day

The poll was more related to what was going to happen

 

[DJ75]

Let's say West Coast put pick 1 (Harley Reid) on the table.
What would you be willing to offer West Coast? Reid would be absolutely perfect for us and is exactly what we need. So I would be all in.

I'd start with our 1st pick in 2023, add our 2 second round picks, and our 1st pick in 2024.

Then I'd offer any of the following for them to pick from:
Himmelberg
McAdam
Keays
Crouch
Hately
Schoenberg
Sholl
Gollant


I'd let them have up to 2 or 3 of these guys.

 

[Scorpus]

Let's say West Coast put pick 1 (Harley Reid) on the table.
What would you be willing to offer West Coast? Reid would be absolutely perfect for us and is exactly what we need. So I would be all in.

I'd start with our 1st pick in 2023, add our 2 second round picks, and our 1st pick in 2024.

Then I'd offer any of the following for them to pick from:
Himmelberg
McAdam
Keays
Crouch
Hately
Schoenberg
Sholl
Gollant


I'd let them have up to 2 or 3 of these guys.

We'd have to offer an actually good player

 

[DJ75]

We'd have to offer an actually good player

I was hoping the 4 picks for the future and some depth for now would be enticing

 

[Mostyn]

Joel Freijah has speed, agility, good tank, offers plenty of run, decent size (191cm 86kg) and can play running back/wing/half forward and has gone alright when used in the midfield rotations. Booming kick and another from the Horsham Saints football factory which is handy from a retention factor. Don't think 2nd round is out of the question with Joel either.

I like how he's really stepping up this year - seems ideal for our needs.

 

[Golumless]

Let's say West Coast put pick 1 (Harley Reid) on the table.
What would you be willing to offer West Coast? Reid would be absolutely perfect for us and is exactly what we need. So I would be all in.

I'd start with our 1st pick in 2023, add our 2 second round picks, and our 1st pick in 2024.

Then I'd offer any of the following for them to pick from:
Himmelberg
McAdam
Keays
Crouch
Hately
Schoenberg
Sholl
Gollant


I'd let them have up to 2 or 3 of these guys.

I mean, if we're offering that, why would WCE put up the pick? It's a bit of a repeat of the North situation where there is just no point in passing up such a talent (and North made the right move picking JHF, they ****ed up afterwards).

It's not like, say quarterback, where it's both insanely valuable and only one job for each team.

 

[MRB37]

At the very least i'd like to see us take 2 more talls in the draft, a ruck to develop and another fwd/ruck swingman. Probably need another key defender too, got some real needs for height IMO. Would go later in the draft for a defender cause I think we can make do with Butts/Murray, but both Freo and Gold Coast have ruck prospects coming out their NGA's like Mitchell Edwards and Ethan Read that would interest me.

 

[FR0GGY]

Let's say West Coast put pick 1 (Harley Reid) on the table.
What would you be willing to offer West Coast? Reid would be absolutely perfect for us and is exactly what we need. So I would be all in.

I'd start with our 1st pick in 2023, add our 2 second round picks, and our 1st pick in 2024.

Then I'd offer any of the following for them to pick from:
Himmelberg
McAdam
Keays
Crouch
Hately
Schoenberg
Sholl
Gollant


I'd let them have up to 2 or 3 of these guys.

Isn’t there some rule that once you trade your first round you can’t trade your other picks for the year?

 

[GrommoT]

I mean, if we're offering that, why would WCE put up the pick? It's a bit of a repeat of the North situation where there is just no point in passing up such a talent (and North made the right move picking JHF, they ****ed up afterwards).

It's not like, say quarterback, where it's both insanely valuable and only one job for each team.

We're not in the race - right now, we have picks 11, 20 (north), 23 (gws) and 2024 picks.

GWS have picks 4, 5 (richmond) and 2024 picks. Melb have picks 9 (freo), 15, 28 (freo), 34 and 2024 picks, North have picks 2, 16 (Poo) and 2024 picks.

GWS have the picks to outbid anyone but Reid has made noise about leaving Vic would be undesirable so maybe not. But if this did happen, WC could then maybe on trade pick 4 to us for 11, our '24 r1 if we were desperate for an early pick - WC could get 5, 11, 2 '24 r1 picks and maybe more for pick 1.

Melb if they can manage to land GC's pick 6 (as everyone seem to think they'd be looking for points for Academy kids) would be in best position to land WC's pick 1 otherwise.

 

[ams4crows]

If I'm Reid I'm going to West Coast, away from the Vic media number 1 pick hype, west coast are utter trash so no one is expecting you to light the world on fire from round 1 even sign a contract extension to make it 3 years, spend the 3 years developing in Perth a wonderful place and then pick whichever Victorian club is contending and head home.

 

[GrommoT]

If I'm Reid I'm going to West Coast, away from the Vic media number 1 pick hype, west coast are utter trash so no one is expecting you to light the world on fire from round 1 even sign a contract extension to make it 3 years, spend the 3 years developing in Perth a wonderful place and then pick whichever Victorian club is contending and head home.

Someone's posted Reid interview.

 

[GreyCrow]

If I'm Reid I'm going to West Coast, away from the Vic media number 1 pick hype, west coast are utter trash so no one is expecting you to light the world on fire from round 1 even sign a contract extension to make it 3 years, spend the 3 years developing in Perth a wonderful place and then pick whichever Victorian club is contending and head home.

Whatever gets Justin out of the place then I'm all for it

 

[GrommoT]

Whatever gets Justin out of the place then I'm all for it

 

[Danger in Texas]

Joel Freijah has speed, agility, good tank, offers plenty of run, decent size (191cm 86kg) and can play running back/wing/half forward and has gone alright when used in the midfield rotations. Booming kick and another from the Horsham Saints football factory which is handy from a retention factor. Don't think 2nd round is out of the question with Joel either.

I have Freijah top 12, currently

Could well drop, given he’s an outside player and the champs are still to come (where there’ll be more inside-leaning risers), but IMO he’s deservedly in 1st round calculations

 

[Danger in Texas]

There’s Philactides likely then , as is the taller SA boy Patton who sort of plays in a Mitch hinge style

Will try think of some others but they’re the most obvious in the 2nd round area

Philactides is probably the best - I also like Roberts, Stevens (although I think he needs to be a mid), Shipp, Hardeman, Lual, even versatile guys like Patton, Evans and Hastie

Hamish is right, there’s quite a few