2023 AFL Draft General Discussion

[Dudoro]

Let's keep this thread for talk about the upcoming draft cohort.

Sorry but why has all the talk in relation to NM potential draft package been deleted? According to the thread title it would be relevant as it is the 2023 AFL DRAFT we were GENERALLY DISCUSSING

 

[briztoon]

Sorry but why has all the talk in relation to NM potential draft package been deleted? According to the thread title it would be relevant as it is the 2023 AFL DRAFT we were GENERALLY DISCUSSING

You started a new thread mate.

Opinion - The draft is compromised

If North get pick 3 and Sanders this will be the biggest disgrace in draft history I’ve ever seen. How can the league allow this? They’ve put themself in this hole. Just be irresponsible with poor list management and you’ll be rewarded. See Port Adelaide standing up to the AFL. More clubs must...

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[weltschmerz]

You started a new thread mate.

Opinion - The draft is compromised

If North get pick 3 and Sanders this will be the biggest disgrace in draft history I’ve ever seen. How can the league allow this? They’ve put themself in this hole. Just be irresponsible with poor list management and you’ll be rewarded. See Port Adelaide standing up to the AFL. More clubs must...

www.bigfooty.com

Did a mod move a bunch of posts into their own new thread?

 

[briztoon]

Did a mod move a bunch of posts into their own new thread?

Happens all the time here.

 

[Lore]

Happens all the time here.

Do you mean here like the draft hub or BigFooty generally?

The draft board community is tight-knit and well behaved until the tourists turn up (progressively as their teams drop out of the finals race). The need for mods to intervene usually becomes apparent in around August when the report queue suddenly lights up for the first time in months...

 

[eaglespremiers]

This weekend he will line up for the Bendigo Pioneers, with a view to playing for the Bombers potentially the following week in the VFL side.

Pioneers have a bye this weekend. A bit of homework from the journalist wouldn't have hurt.

 

[briztoon]

Do you mean here like the draft hub or BigFooty generally?

The draft board community is tight-knit and well behaved until the tourists turn up (progressively as their teams drop out of the finals race). The need for mods to intervene usually becomes apparent in around August when the report queue suddenly lights up for the first time in months...

Meant the draft hub. There are a few locals just as bad as the tourists.

 

[PMBangers]

Meant the draft hub. There are a few locals just as bad as the tourists.

All people on forums are just as bad as each other, we're all in one big glass house

 

[Sphynx]

They help set standards on the training ground, in the locker rooms and VFL.

We have Jarryd Lyons and Daniel Rich playing in our VFL team. They provide valuable leadership and on field coaching to our young mids and backs.

Brown would still be in your best 22. You’re kidding yourself if you believe otherwise.


Look at your squad, you’ve got the following senior players who should be the core of your best 22, Hugh Greenwood, Liam Shiels and Jack Ziebell, to fill your kids around.

But you already have so many high quality kids who play mid, and forward who can roll through the midfield, and you want to add two more.

At some point, some of those kids are going to leave for more opportunities, and you’re going to get cents on the dollar.

Mids
Jye Simpkin
Luke Davies-Uniake
Tarryn Thomas
Bailey Scott
Will Phillips
Tom Powell
George Wardlaw

Half Forwards
Jaidyn Stephenson
Curtis Taylor
Paul Curtis
Eddie Ford
Josh Goater
Harry Sheezel
Brayden George.

We still had 200+ gamers in Ziebell, Goldstein and Cunnington and then actively went and got Greenwood and Shiels for a similar reason.

There's a few players in there that can play multiple positions, obviously.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Any updates on the following:?

Brayden Laplanche.
Adam De Masi.
Tyszreise Clark.
Jayden Matz.
Malik Gordon.
Mitch Williams.
Alex Tsia.
Christian Mardini.
Patrick Weckert.
Oscar Talbot.
Diesel Moloney.
Boston Dowling.
Kristian Ferronato.
Chad Reschke.
Miles Enders.
Ollie Badr.
Ollie Horlock.
Jared Filmer.
Ned Hawkins.
Khy Jess.

 

[Futbolista]

Any updates on the following:?

Brayden Laplanche.
Adam De Masi.
Tyszreise Clark.
Jayden Matz.
Malik Gordon.
Mitch Williams.
Alex Tsia.
Christian Mardini.
Patrick Weckert.
Oscar Talbot.
Diesel Moloney.
Boston Dowling.
Kristian Ferronato.
Chad Reschke.
Miles Enders.
Ollie Badr.
Ollie Horlock.
Jared Filmer.
Ned Hawkins.
Khy Jess.

Tyzreise Clark faded away...was bigger than the others as a youngster but! then struggled as his peers caught up with him. Back playing in Kalgoorlie.

Adam De Masi is still playing colts and PSA. Looks a good player still but doesn't really impact games.

Mitch Williams is injured again...unlucky. Maybe still worth an investment?

Jared Filmer decided footy isn't for him and gave it away. Not the first and won't be the last.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Diesel Moloney? Please can North draft him based on his name.

 

[bringback90s footy]

Not sure how true but rumour out of Bendigo is that Malik Gordon had off-season heart surgery and now just getting back to fitness after recovery from that.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Diesel Moloney? Please can North draft him based on his name.

You’re gonna like this even more.

He’s from the Western Jets.

 

[I got the outside word]

You’re gonna like this even more.

He’s from the Western Jets.

Pretty sure he is from somewhere close to Donaldson’s Dairy.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Pretty sure he is from somewhere close to Donaldson’s Dairy.

Bit skinny and boney, but might get in via the rookie draft, ya reckon?

 

[LittleG]

Pretty sure he is from somewhere close to Donaldson’s Dairy.

Ms Plums?

 

[weltschmerz]

You’re gonna like this even more.

He’s from the Western Jets.

We need him. Dogs fans bellowing DEEEEEEEZ.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

First of the draft camp articles is out.

Vic Metro leads the way as Draft Combine list announced

The list of players invited to this year's Draft Combine has been announced

www.afl.com.au

 

[weltschmerz]

I refuse to believe that Charlton Harrop is not a silent film star.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

I’m finding it so hard to rank a few players, all of them have some sort of really draft-able trait/s but they also have big deficiencies in their game.

George Stevens. Positives: pure footballer, high footy IQ, elite ball winner with excellent skills. Negatives: overall athletic ability.

Archer Reid. Positives: Height and contested marking. Negatives: physicality and competitiveness.

Ashton Moir. Positives: skill set and decision making. Negatives: work rate, physicality and competitiveness.

Jack Delean. Positives: decision making, X-factor and goal sense. Negatives: flexibility (only has form as a half forward), ability to accumulate and defensive intensity.

I’d argue that there are more of these boom/bust types in this draft compared to any in recent memory. There are so many players in this draft class that I’m unsure on.

 

[Ysaye]

I’m finding it so hard to rank a few players, all of them have some sort of really draft-able trait/s but they also have big deficiencies in their game.

George Stevens. Positives: pure footballer, high footy IQ, elite ball winner with excellent skills. Negatives: overall athletic ability.

Archer Reid. Positives: Height and contested marking. Negatives: physicality and competitiveness.

Ashton Moir. Positives: skill set and decision making. Negatives: work rate, physicality and competitiveness.

Jack Delean. Positives: decision making, X-factor and goal sense. Negatives: flexibility (only has form as a half forward), ability to accumulate and defensive intensity.

I’d argue that there are more of these boom/bust types in this draft compared to any in recent memory. There are so many players in this draft class that I’m unsure on.

When you say you are finding them hard to rank, do you mean you are finding it difficult to work out where they will get picked, or how good they will turn out?

If it is the former, then IMO this will come down a lot to how they perform their intent and drive to get the best out of themselves, which will be characterized by their performances to date and also influenced by what they say they will do coming from interviews (both of themselves and their coaches). For example, for me instantly that separates Delean and Stevens into a higher category than A. Reid and Moir. Then once you are past that, athletic qualities over skills have traditionally been the way people recruiters order.

If it is the latter, then often the environment that the player is in, what he has in terms of competition for spots, what his coach will allow him to do, the role that he is given or encouraged to play, will all factor into how they grow as a player, in addition to the things that they innately come with. To that end, I agree that it is hard to see where some of these players (particularly let's say players like Moir, Tholstrup and others) end up as in terms of their careers and their final ranking. It should be remembered though that the recruitment process is setup to prioritize players that will "not fail", rather than find players that will "succeed to the highest ranking".

 

[Suntory Boss Coffee]

what's all this noise around Caddy

 

[Mojorisin]

Archer Reid. Positives: Height and contested marking. Negatives: physicality and competitiveness.

He gives me Schache vibes.

 

[Stamos]

Some AFL recruiters and list bosses think as few as 50 players could be drafted this year as list sizes and a shallower group of prospects combine to put the squeeze on. A total of 59 players were selected in last year’s national draft, and 65 the year before that, so it would be a significant drop if that scenario played out.

There are even clubs that think this year’s draft class is barely 40 players deep once academy and father-son prospects are removed from the equation, although others expect about 60 new footballers to enter the system.

The big men attracting the biggest interest as ruck market heats up

Essendon journeyman Andrew Phillips’ retirement on Tuesday – after 78 games for three clubs, across 13 seasons – could have serious ramifications for this year’s ruck merry-go-round.

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