Game Day 2023 AFL DRAFT

[maxlilly]

Serious question, Geelong have mainly had late picks other than Sullivan.

Where does that put their list?

They'll be going from top to bottom nearly as fast as we did

 

[Crow till I die]

Interesting on the draft coverage now they shifted to carltons room - behind the scene and they were very worried about us taking Moir and when we passed and then collard was taken, they were very please to get Moir

Just have this nagging feeling we will regret not grabbing him with our 3rd pick

 

[Danger in Texas]

Blues were worried we’d take Moir, interesting

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Blues were worried we’d take Moir, interesting

Just as well they got in before our next pick lol...

 

[Danger in Texas]

Just as well they got in before our next pick lol...

??? We didn’t have a pick after their Moir selection?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

??? We didn’t have a pick after their Moir selection?

Hence my lol.

Was a joke.

 

[Crow_68]

Interesting on the draft coverage now they shifted to carltons room - behind the scene and they were very worried about us taking Moir and when we passed and then collard was taken, they were very please to get Moir

Just have this nagging feeling we will regret not grabbing him with our 3rd pick

Seems like a nice kid, hope it all goes well for him.

 

[Mostyn]

It’s amazing reading about all the great drafting on this second night and some by Port.

So thoughts of those who defended the club in not having any list spots in case we wanted to get back in? Mostyn thiughts?

Why do you think we want to get back in?

We wanted three picks and we took them.

They could have had more, but we didn't want them.

Things went better than the club could have hoped.

Every year at draft day, everyone gets boners at all these great players still there later in the draft. And yet most won't amount to anything.

 

[Crows I Am]

Pan, Philactides, Sanchez, Callinan, De La Rue, Visentini, Rawlinson, Van Rooyen.

Some guys I like the look of are still available, definitely wishing we'd not promised Borlase that last spot.

Especially now we have just drafted a gun tall defender who will likely play round 1. Even less need to keep Borlase on the list now.

 

[George CantStandYa]

Why do you think we want to get back in?

We wanted three picks and we took them.

They could have had more, but we didn't want them.

Things went better than the club could have hoped.

Every year at draft day, everyone gets boners at all these great players still there later in the draft. And yet most won't amount to anything.

Look we can go round in circles again about list spots, but if you believe the club thought there was no one worth drafting after 27 when it went 64 deep, well you haven’t been watching our draft history. Clearly if we had a list spot we would have grabbed someone, to suggest otherwise is just head in the sand stuff.

The proof will be in the pudding though when in the next few years we can gauge the strength of it. Will you still be holding the line that keeping Sloane for the extra year didn’t cost us? I reckon you will somehow

 

[Thunderstruck]

Even though he is an elite kick, Schoenmaker’s lack of physicality is resulting in a big slide.

And the fact that he is as loose as you could possibly get in a player. Makes Mitch Robinson seem like Pendles.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Look we can go round in circles again about list spots, but if you believe the club thought there was no one worth drafting after 27 when it went 64 deep, well you haven’t been watching our draft history. Clearly if we had a list spot we would have grabbed someone, to suggest otherwise is just head in the sand stuff.

The proof will be in the pudding though when in the next few years we can gauge the strength of it. Will you still be holding the line that keeping Sloane for the extra year didn’t cost us? I reckon you will somehow

Ultimately the odds we get an 8+ year player from beyond pick 27 aren’t at all in our favour, and I’m not super fussed about it, but it’s for sure one of the reasons keeping Sloane on for one more year is poor

 

[George CantStandYa]

Ultimately the odds we get an 8+ year player from beyond pick 27 aren’t at all in our favour, and I’m not super fussed about it, but it’s for sure one of the reasons keeping Sloane on for one more year is poor

The nature of drafting is not everyone is going to be a good pick, but we aren’t talking about pick 80 here. We are talking about after pick 27 and drafting isn’t an exact science, it’s a numbers game too. More picks, more chances of getting a player. Put it this way, can you draft a good player if you don’t draft one?

Hamish said we had no scope to pick up a slider if we wanted to, do you think he would have wanted to?

 

[Danger Zone]

Sloane himself was pick 44...

 

[BACCS]

Especially now we have just drafted a gun tall defender who will likely play round 1. Even less need to keep Borlase on the list now.

I still think he's good depth as a pure lockdown defender if mass injuries hit (like it did late in 2023). At least we know he can hold up at AFL level. I think if Petty comes next year though he's pretty likely gone from the Crows.

 

[Danger in Texas]

The nature of drafting is not everyone is going to be a good pick, but we aren’t talking about pick 80 here. We are talking about after pick 27 and drafting isn’t an exact science, it’s a numbers game too. More picks, more chances of getting a player. Put it this way, can you draft a good player if you don’t draft one?

Hamish said we had no scope to pick up a slider if we wanted to, do you think he would have wanted to?

I doubt all parties would’ve agreed to trade another 2nd to get back into this draft though, given the need for Welsh points, so a trade-in likely comes around pick 40-50 at the highest. Yes you increase your chances of getting a good player out of your haul by getting another pick, but only by a slim amount

But yes, a slim amount is still an amount. Hamish would’ve wanted to, but it wasn’t his decision to keep him on the list. I wonder whose it was? (I’m not sure it would’ve been entirely Reid’s choice either)

 

[Crowked]

We picked a HBF, who isn’t particularly special and we don’t really need. We obviously didn’t have any interest in Moir.

 

[BrissyCrow]

Why are we going for defenders with our first pick?

Can someone explain it simply to me.

He's not just a defender. He can play up forward and is a bloody good potential to be a tall midfielder. Nothing wrong with that

 

[adelaidecrows]

The nature of drafting is not everyone is going to be a good pick, but we aren’t talking about pick 80 here. We are talking about after pick 27 and drafting isn’t an exact science, it’s a numbers game too. More picks, more chances of getting a player. Put it this way, can you draft a good player if you don’t draft one?

Hamish said we had no scope to pick up a slider if we wanted to, do you think he would have wanted to?

My take on that would be they have a planned drafting strategy, pick the best player available (Curtin), the next players will be needs and who the list managers think best fit the criteria. If they stray from that strategy because of a slider through temptation, then they can unbalance the list. Especially if they've already half mapped out next years strategy (Welsh)

However even the most mapped out and rigged strategies surely would bend to cater for an unexpected slider who was highly rated by us. So I do get what you are saying. Perhaps we simply didnt rate those on the table over the players we drafted anyway.

 

[adelaidecrows]

We picked a HBF, who isn’t particularly special and we don’t really need. We obviously didn’t have any interest in Moir.

Or we did but felt he was surplus and wanted to fill a ore planned need.

 

[rabidcrow]

A lot of players that become gun mids are discussed at the draft as having played a variety of positions as a junior, which is what Curtin and Edwards have done. I think there's a big difference between drafting a tall that has actually played midfield like Curtin to a high standard, as opposed to just a stock standard KPD like (say) Denver Grainger-Barras

Obviously from here we have to develop them in that role

Also I'm sure we are banking on an elite midfielder developing from a Rachele, Pedlar or Soligo type but again, that requires developing them in that position not pigeonholing them as a forward

Having now taken Curtin and Edwards the issue to me isn't so much where is the midfield coming from, it's more are we going to take the steps to play these guys in the midfield and develop them into elite mids?

I think between Curtin, Edwards, Rachele, Pedlar and Solgio there's enough traits there for a very nice midfield. It won't become one if they are stuck in other positions.

On top of this we should be picking a midfielder in next year's mid-stacked draft with our first rounder

Clearly we are developing Rachele, Soligo and Pedlar as mid fielders.

For example - in their 3rd season Rozee (62) and Butters (65) started to get some regular CBAs
In their second year Rachele (140), Soligo (112) and Pedlar (82 - which essentially started from round 9) attended double

And yes perhaps Port had a better midfield in 2021 than we did in 2023 which restricted their numbers but the point remains it is clear we are building them into those roles


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[rabidcrow]

Patton, Philactides, Sanchez, Callinan, De La Rue, Visentini, Rawlinson, Van Rooyen.

Some guys I like the look of are still available, definitely wishing we'd not promised Borlase that last spot.

There are some names (good ones) not drafted each year. Do you think all of the above will get picked up in the rookie draft?
One of the issues is half the teams in the comp don’t have any spots. 9 teams took 3 or less players at the ND


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[rabidcrow]

Will need to work big time on his defensive side at AFL level as a smaller forward and not the quickest. Footy smarts is his one wood.

Not sure “smarts” is his one wood from those that know him!


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[Mostyn]

Ultimately the odds we get an 8+ year player from beyond pick 27 aren’t at all in our favour, and I’m not super fussed about it, but it’s for sure one of the reasons keeping Sloane on for one more year is poor

Why are we obsessed with the Sloane contract?

They could have moved a second player to the rookie list like they did last year. Instead we're re-signing Borlase for a year.

We chose Borlase over another pick - which showed how little they wanted it.

Curtin, Butts, Worrell, Keane, Burgess, Himmelburg - we're fine for tall defenders now, but we're keeping Borlase too.

 

[Mostyn]

We picked a HBF, who isn’t particularly special and we don’t really need. We obviously didn’t have any interest in Moir.

We need a HBF, it was always called a great draft for HBFers, and Ryan looks like a great option. He had a far better year than Moir.