List Mgmt. 2023 Draft Thread - Part I

[saintmike65]

May have been spooked by Geelong if they were always going to take Mannagh at that pick. Surely higher projection for Hastie given the lack of body maturity. I think it's the way the game is headed too (intercepts over dominant midfields)

Hope you’re right!

 

[saintmike65]

Hope you’re right!

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t mind young Hastie, however we recruited McLennan and McConnell, both half back options.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Reckon we’ll regret not taking Cooper Simpson at 33 when we had the chance, smooth moving mid against a very skinny HBF!

Bank Hastie now and grab Simpson when he inevitably wants out of Freo.

Simples

 

[ScrappyDo]

Reckon we’ll regret not taking Cooper Simpson at 33 when we had the chance, smooth moving mid against a very skinny HBF!

Hastie look a potential gun though.
I would have liked Simpson too but no criticism about that selection.

 

[CursingFijian]

May have been spooked by Geelong if they were always going to take Mannagh at that pick. Surely higher projection for Hastie given the lack of body maturity. I think it's the way the game is headed too (intercepts over dominant midfields)

Intercept and quick rebound and Hastie is very good at both as a junior.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t mind young Hastie, however we recruited McLennan and McConnell, both half back options.

2 cat B's, one of them feckin Irish doesn't compare.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t mind young Hastie, however we recruited McLennan and McConnell, both half back options.

Hastie was an interesting selection given our list dynamics, but attacking intercept defenders are an important cog in top teams. Leading up to our pick #33 I think we were keen on Mitchell Edwards the WA Ruckman, but Geelong landed him so we took who we rated the next best selection Hastie. I also liked Cooper Simpson and was hoping we would take him but I guess we rated Hastie higher. He will obviously take some time to develop but looks to have the tools to become a good player.

 

[g_TRAIN]

Huge focus on pace in our drafting as well, that's probably another reason we took Hastie.

 

[BigMonty]

Huge focus on pace in our drafting as well, that's probably another reason we took Hastie.

The game has evolved from Pagans Paddock to Clarkos cluster both required the ball being kicked into the open space. Close down defensive space Malthouse WCE.
All required the following ways to get it there
1. Kick it effectively...focus on disposal
2. Get there quicker...focus on speed
3. Do it again and again...focus on athletic profile...viz Rooey

GWS shredded us with speed and disposal, we just could not get the ball back except most often when they scored.

Clearly we are looking to recruit 2 and 3 or getting player who have 1 like Schoenmakers who can kick into space.

Game plan set up in defence
Option 1 up through centre with speed or
Option 2 Down the line to the presenting big bloke then spread into centre and continue with Option 1.

Going to be exciting to watch.

Go Saints


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[ScrappyDo]

The game has evolved from Pagans Paddock to Clarkos cluster both required the ball being kicked into the open space. Close down defensive space Malthouse WCE.
All required the following ways to get it there
1. Kick it effectively...focus on disposal
2. Get there quicker...focus on speed
3. Do it again and again...focus on athletic profile...viz Rooey

GWS shredded us with speed and disposal, we just could not get the ball back except most often when they scored.

Clearly we are looking to recruit 2 and 3 or getting player who have 1 like Schoenmakers who can kick into space.

Game plan set up in defence
Option 1 up through centre with speed or
Option 2 Down the line to the presenting big bloke then spread into centre and continue with Option 1.

Going to be exciting to watch.

Go Saints


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Shoey was a free hit rather than a strategic pick.
We have 2 clear objectives.
Outside running capacity/ speed, Henry, Wilson, Garcia.
Inside burst speed, Windy, Chito, Dow.

Can't have all of Steele, Crouch, Hunter and Ross through the middle and expect to compete with the top teams. Until that changes we're stuck in 1st gear.

 

[gringo2011]

I really wanted Simpson but like the look of Hastie as well. Hopefully it ends up being a genius move.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Just come across this little gem.
Thanks to the OP Thorgils

Saints/Zebs highlighted

NATIONAL DRAFT COMBINE TOP 10s​

2km TIME TRIAL

Name	State	State League Club	Community Club	Result (min:sec)
Tarkyn O’Leary	VIC M	Sandringham Dragons	Parkdale Vultures	5:48
Darcy Wilson	VIC C	Murray Bushrangers	Wangaratta Rovers	5:52
Ethan Read	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin	5:56
Jordan Croft	VIC M	Calder Cannons	Maribyrnong Park	6:05
Caiden Cleary	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Sydney University	6:06
Aiden O’Driscoll	WA	Perth	Northam Saints	6:06
Archie Roberts	VIC M	Sandringham Dragons	Hampton Rovers	6:08
Connor O’Sullivan	NSW/ACT	Murray Bushrangers	Albury	6:11
Joel Freijah	VIC C	GWV Rebels	Horsham Saints	6:13
Harvey Johnston	VIC M	Sandringham Dragons	Parkdale Vultures	6:17
Koltyn Tholstrup	WA	Subiaco	Newtown Condingup	6:17

20m SPRINT

Name	State	State League Club	Community Club	Result (sec)
Aiden O’Driscoll	WA	Perth	Northam Saints	2.871
Will Graham	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin	2.915
Caleb Windsor	VIC M	Eastern Ranges	South Belgrave	2.916
Lance Collard	WA	Subiaco	North Beach	2.923
Kane McAuliffe	SA	North Adelaide	Central Augusta	2.930
Zane Zakostelsky	WA	Claremont	North Beach	2.954
Phoenix Gothard	NSW/ACT	Murray Bushrangers	Albury	2.963
Taylor Goad	SA	South Adelaide	Willunga	2.965
Eion McElholm	Ireland	N/A	N/A	2.993
Harry DeMattia	VIC C	Dandenong Stingrays	Edithvale-Aspendale	2.996

AGILITY TEST

Name	State	State League Club	Community Club	Result (sec)
Lance Collard	WA	Subiaco	North Beach	8.157
Koltyn Tholstrup	WA	Subiaco	Newtown Condingup	8.194
Angus Hastie	VIC C	Geelong Falcons	Geelong West Giants	8.204
Bodie Ryan	SA	Glenelg	Brighton	8.208
Zane Zakostelsky	WA	Claremont	North Beach	8.233
Ashton Moir	SA	Glenelg	Plympton	8.244
Reece Torrent	WA	Peel Thunder	Halls Head	8.260
Darcy Wilson	VIC C	Murray Bushrangers	Wangaratta Rovers	8.263
Aiden O’Driscoll	WA	Perth	Northam Saints	8.302
Nate Caddy	VIC M	Northern Knights	Yarrambat	8.331

STANDING VERTICAL JUMP

Name	State	State League Club	Community Club	Result (cm)
Zane Zakostelsky	WA	Claremont	North Beach	80
Phoenix Gothard	NSW/ACT	Murray Bushrangers	Albury	78
Will Graham	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin	78
Mitchell Edwards	WA	Peel Thunder	South Mandurah	78
Kane McAuliffe	SA	North Adelaide	Central Augusta	77
Darcy Wilson	VIC C	Murray Bushrangers	Wangaratta Rovers	76
Riley Hardeman	WA	Swan Districts	Caversham	75
Jack Delean	SA	South Adelaide	Reynella	74
Taylor Goad	SA	South Adelaide	Willunga	74
Aiden O’Driscoll	WA	Perth	Northam Saints	73
Caleb Windsor	VIC M	Eastern Ranges	South Belgrave	73

RUNNING VERTICAL JUMP

Name	State	State League Club	Community Club	Result (cm)
Darcy Wilson	VIC C	Murray Bushrangers	Wangaratta Rovers	98
Zane Duursma	VIC C	Gippsland Power	Foster	97
Will Graham	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin	95
Kane McAuliffe	SA	North Adelaide	Central Augusta	95
Mitchell Edwards	WA	Peel Thunder	South Mandurah	94
Zane Zakostelsky	WA	Claremont	North Beach	94
Aiden O’Driscoll	WA	Perth	Northam Saints	92
Caleb Windsor	VIC M	Eastern Ranges	South Belgrave	92
Riley Hardeman	WA	Swan Districts	Caversham	91
Cooper Simpson	VIC C	Dandenong Stingrays	Mt Martha

 

[Barrels]

That's why I believe we had a nice boy policy. We seemed to actively chase guys with very compliant and soft natures. Great for not going off the rails but not great for competitive spirit and ambition. Josh Bruce was sent packing for being too alpha around the bedwetters too.

A. There’s no such thing as an “alpha”, the bloke who came up with the term has since distance himself from it, and if there was, anyone who calls themselves that is clearly not one.

B. Bruce was a solid gold ******* who thought he was the second coming of Anthony Lockett.

 

[g_TRAIN]

Just come across this little gem.
Thanks to the OP Thorgils

Saints/Zebs highlighted

I reckon Hastie would have done well in the 20m sprint too if he wasn't disqualified.

Don't think Garcia tested. Anyone know?

Wilson looks an unbelievable athlete

 

[Barrels]

Yes, private school choir boys were the flavour for over a decade..got us nowhere!

I feel personally attacked.

 

[SteeleSaints]

I really wanted Simpson but like the look of Hastie as well. Hopefully it ends up being a genius move.

I see Simpson has been raising some eye brows at Freo's preseason, particularly his ability in front of goals. We cant change our selection, but I dont think you can ever have enough midfielders who can rotate forward and remain dangerous.

I think its called 'draft envy' unfortunately we can't take them all!

 

[Tommy Wigs]

I see Simpson has been raising some eye brows at Freo's preseason, particularly his ability in front of goals. We cant change our selection, but I dont think you can ever have enough midfielders who can rotate forward and remain dangerous.

I think its called 'draft envy' but we can't take them all!

Yep. Really wanted him.

 

[Saint Watto]

B. Bruce was a solid gold ******* who thought he was the second coming of Anthony Lockett.
Spot on there Barrels.

Joshy thought he was the best thing since sliced bread.

 

[Tyrian Lonestar]

B. Bruce was a solid gold ******* who thought he was the second coming of Anthony Lockett.

Spot on there Barrels.

Joshy thought he was the best thing since sliced bread.

Juicy had a cracked about training standards when he landed at the Dogs. For a supposed alpha he did nothing to drive training standards while with us.

One thing for certain, he wouldn't have coped with the current training standards.

 

[Saint Watto]

Juicy had a cracked about training standards when he landed at the Dogs. For a supposed alpha he did nothing to drive training standards while with us.

One thing for certain, he wouldn't have coped with the current training standards.

You nailed it there Tyrian.

It was a fair old whack that he gave our club when he landed at the Dogs.......and not content with that whack....he gave us another one not long after.

Loved his early years at the Saints but I for one wasn't sad to see the back of him.

 

[ScrappyDo]

I reckon Hastie would have done well in the 20m sprint too if he wasn't disqualified.

Don't think Garcia tested. Anyone know?

Wilson looks an unbelievable athlete

Fair points. Hugo is definitely towards the top end for 20m sprints, I think l remember Shifter saying he tested that way last year.
Also just behind Wilson in the TT so likely top 10 for this draft as well.

 

[hayes]

Funny how Josh Bruce

17

Josh Bruce

Age

31

Ht

198cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.2

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

90.4

1star

D

8.9

2star

K

3.5

1star

HB

5.4

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

90.4

2star

D

11.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.8

3star

only turned into a flog once he left us. No complaining about him while he was one of the best contested marks in the comp and kicking goals for us. Gotta love it.

 

[Tyrian Lonestar]

Funny how Josh Bruce only turned into a flog once he left us. No complaining about him while he was one of the best contested marks in the comp and kicking goals for us. Gotta love it.

Who?

 

[gringo2011]

A. There’s no such thing as an “alpha”, the bloke who came up with the term has since distance himself from it, and if there was, anyone who calls themselves that is clearly not one.

B. Bruce was a solid gold ******* who thought he was the second coming of Anthony Lockett.

Alphas don't dispute the existence of alphas.

 

[sunny3193]

Alphas don't dispute the existence of alphas.

That’s put him back in his, ahem, barrel.