List Mgmt. 2023 Draft Thread - Part I

[Remboy]

Every club takes other clubs cast offs.

Some clubs even take our cast offs.

Maybe we should take our own cast offs.

 

[Remboy]

Just wondering who our current rookie-listed players are.
After Stocker & Wood were elevated to the main list.

McLennan & O'Connor- Cat B

Caminiti-rookie-yes

Heath & Sharman, what list are they on?

Isn’t Sharman on the de-list?

 

[Significant]

Do you know how many A rookies & Cat.B we can have all together?

Depends how big your main list is

 

[stavro#4]

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Do you know how many A rookies & Cat.B we can have all together?

We can have 3 Cat B rookies now apparently. ( We have 2 now i think ).

Rookie Players - AFL.com.au

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But it always used to be 2 Cat B rookies.

I can see a bit in google but not beyond the paywall. It always used to be 42 players including normal rookies and main listed players.

https://www.afl.com.au/ahttps://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/what-is-the-state-of-your-club-s-list-ahead-of-the-afl-draft-20231102-

Every club except for North Melbourne and Gold Coast can sign a maximum of 44 footballers for next season, comprising between 36 and 38 on the primary list, four to six category A rookies – depending on the size of their primary list – and up to two category B rookie

They really like making complicated rules , then dicking around with them.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

If the Swans deal falls through & any of our main targets are gonski then you'd be all over that option.

 

[Mavefromdelburn]

Close...

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Isn’t Sharman on the de-list?

Don't Panic's delist- Sure

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

We can have 3 Cat B rookies now apparently. ( We have 2 now i think ).

Rookie Players - AFL.com.au

Australian Football League. All the latest AFL news, video, results and information

www.afl.com.au

But it always used to be 2 Cat B rookies.

I can see a bit in google but not beyond the paywall. It always used to be 42 players including normal rookies and main listed players.

https://www.afl.com.au/ahttps://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/what-is-the-state-of-your-club-s-list-ahead-of-the-afl-draft-20231102-

Every club except for North Melbourne and Gold Coast can sign a maximum of 44 footballers for next season, comprising between 36 and 38 on the primary list, four to six category A rookies – depending on the size of their primary list – and up to two category B rookie

They really like making complicated rules , then dicking around with them.

We currently have McLennan & O'Connor as Cat B's
Caminiti, Heath & Sharman as Cat A's
33 on the main list = 38

So, we can have 1 more Cat A or Cat B
& add 5 to the main list.
So we could pick up to, 3 to 4 in the draft.
And maybe one or two in the PSD or MSD

 

[Tommy Wigs]

None of those others have any proven capability. Thats the point of a backup.

Serious question - does Stewart? And perennially injured. This one will go down as a laugh in a few years time, like Chip and have a dozen others.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

North Melbourne should have interest in our pick 13.
That would give us 3 x 1st round picks- 17,18,21

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Serious question - does Stewart? And perennially injured. This one will go down as a laugh in a few years time, like Chip and have a dozen others.

Should trial Hayes at full-back over the pre-season. I think ? i'd prefer him over Cordy, Howard & Stewart

 

[BrutThough]

Should trial Hayes at full-back over the pre-season. I think ? i'd prefer him over Cordy, Howard & Stewart

We have a much greater need for Hayes to be a fwd/ruck than we do for him to be a 5th in line key back.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

We have a much greater need for Hayes to be a fwd/ruck than we do for him to be a 5th in line key back.

B. Wilkie Hayes Windhager
H.B. NWM Battle Sinclair

Would actually make Howard 5th in line?, coz he's shite.

 

[SaintsofSteel]

Guys like Campbell & Stewart are pure back ups.

They're not recruited to become consistent AFL players... they're brought in to fill a role if needed.

You can argue that it's taking a spot of a kid who might make it but clubs seem to disagree... they want the mature bodies who can cover injuries of senior players if needed.

All clubs do it from time to time.

I understand what you are suggesting but my suggestion is to try a player who is younger and has room for improvement. Stewart has an injury prone history and he is hardly a proven key defender backup. Anyway your or my opinion are not going to alter what SOS does.

 

[SaintsofSteel]

We have a much greater need for Hayes to be a fwd/ruck than we do for him to be a 5th in line key back.

That was Stewart's best role when he was playing consistent footy.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

I believe we can take 3 x Cat B rookies, and I believe they are competely separate to the main and rookie A lists numbers.

That would make 47 on the list, don't think so.

We can have 36 to 38 on the main list, usually 38, we currently have 33.

3 to 5 Cat A's & 3 Cat B's totaling 44 max. on the list.

I think ?

So currently we have 3 Cat A's & 2 Cat B's

More than likely we add

1 x Cat. A

or 1 more Cat. B - maybe Josh Docking? (NGA)

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I understand what you are suggesting but my suggestion is to try a player who is younger and has room for improvement. Stewart has an injury prone history and he is hardly a proven key defender backup. Anyway your or my opinion are not going to alter what SOS does.

The pure back up / old player idea is fine, if we didn't have list sizes that meant we could run out of players.
I'd actually like the AFL to have a non-rookie , outside the cap list especially for older players.
They used to have the veteran list outside the cap for players. It used to mean that loyal players who wanted to keep playing could do so without being shoved out the door.

 

[SaintsofSteel]

That would make 47 on the list, don't think so.
We can have 36 to 38 on the main list, usually 38
3 to 5 Cat A's & 3 Cat B's totaling 44 max. on the list.
I think ?
So, currently we have 3 Cat A's & 2 Cat B's

But arent Cat B completely separate from the list numbers?

On the North Melbourne deal if we were to do it there still should be plenty of players available we are interested in. Stavro did suggest a few days ago we were looking to get another pick between our first two perhaps this is it.

 

[Banger9798]

Stewart is bog average, would prefer a list spot spent on a kid rather than waste one on him.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

That would make 47 on the list, don't think so.
We can have 36 to 38 on the main list, usually 38
3 to 5 Cat A's & 3 Cat B's totaling 44 max. on the list.
I think ?
So currently we have 3 Cat A's & 2 Cat B's
More than likely we add
1 or 2 x Cat. A
1 more Cat. B - maybe Josh Docking?

The 3 Cat B's seems to be a new ruling.
I don't know if that allows a total of 45, or whether you can only do it if you have a spot in the 42. ( one less Cat A or one less regualr player ).

 

[Joffaboy]

Agreed but how many of those were 30yo. Campbell might be a great clubman but he is never going to be a consistent AFL player.

And Stocker, Wood and Camimiti?

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[BrutThough]

That was Stewart's best role when he was playing consistent footy.

I wouldn't mind having him train over preseason to see if his body holds up.

If it does, there are worse players out there as back-ups on other lists.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

I wouldn't mind having him train over preseason to see if his body holds up.

If it does, there are worse players out there as back-ups on other lists.

He spent 2021 at F.B for the Bumber's. Did alright too, apparently?

 

[SaintsofSteel]

Just read on the AFL site that Liam Stocker

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Liam Stocker

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

180.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.6

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

180.0

3star

has been upgraded to the senior list, along with Wood.

So who does leave on our Cat A rookie list - Caminiti, Heath, Sharman, Hayes ? Does that make 32 on the senior list? If thats correct and we can have a total of 44 players senior + rookie Cat A, we have a max of 8 positions to fill. Lets say we select 2 x SSP players eg McKenzie & Stewart, thats still 6 spots to fill via drafts. Which would suggest we take 4 at the National draft and 1-2 Rookies.

Plus Cat B McLennan & O'Connell plus a possiblilty of Josh Docking or Will Nish.