List Mgmt. 2023 Draft Thread - Part I

[George]

I heard Cal wears pink underwear.

 

[Billy Shaw]

Hello everyone. Long-time lurker, a first-time poster. I am feeling strangely confident about this year's draft. This is one of the only times I've felt this way in over a quarter of a century barracking for the saints.

I come from a long line of sainters and have listened to many rellies and friends who've outlined the horrors of following the saints, particularly during the 80s'.

"You're not a real sainter unless you spent the 80s watching the saints at Moorabbin, collecting spoon after spoon," my old man always reminds me when I complain.

Anyway, I think I may have been lulled into a false sense of security by the most recent efforts of Chris Toce and crew. Am I alone in feeling this way?

After the disaster of the Elshaug years, I had become conditioned to dreading the draft. Now with a new batch of promising youngsters acquired over the past few years, dare we believe we are finally in good hands when it comes to recruiting? It has, historically, been our Achilles heel.

Don't let us down, Chris, Roughy, Sos and Gubby. RTB (I'm a fan) is relying on you!

 

[Tommy Wigs]

I heard Cal wears pink underwear.

Anyway. Soz. Wasn’t trying to offend with the Cal comment. I’m still happy with DeMattia, might surprise some.

 

[Yawkey way]

Hello everyone. Long-time lurker, a first-time poster. I am feeling strangely confident about this year's draft. This is one of the only times I've felt this way in over a quarter of a century barracking for the saints.

I come from a long line of sainters and have listened to many rellies and friends who've outlined the horrors of following the saints, particularly during the 80s'.

"You're not a real sainter unless you spent the 80s watching the saints at Moorabbin, collecting spoon after spoon," my old man always reminds me when I complain.

Anyway, I think I may have been lulled into a false sense of security by the most recent efforts of Chris Toce and crew. Am I alone in feeling this way?

After the disaster of the Elshaug years, I had become conditioned to dreading the draft. Now with a new batch of promising youngsters acquired over the past few years, dare we believe we are finally in good hands when it comes to recruiting? It has, historically, been our Achilles heel.

Don't let us down, Chris, Roughy, Sos and Gubby. RTB (I'm a fan) is relying on you!

Bill shaw, Alan sillitoe ?

 

[stavro#4]

Anyway. Soz. Wasn’t trying to offend with the Cal comment. I’m still happy with DeMattia, might surprise some.

He might.

But you can trade back 3 picks and still grab him if he is your man

 

[gringo2011]

I’ve slept on it and still not feeling the DeMattia choice

DeMattia is much more of a risky option IMO. He's real boom bust. I think if he's a star in the future it's going to be an attitude thing rather than a skill set. That's harder to read than what you see with the eye. He was an exceptional cricketer and probably could have ended up playing international cricket. Probably has a really strong competitive streak and self belief that makes him attractive in interviews and scope.

 

[Yawkey way]

DeMattia is much more of a risky option IMO. He's real boom bust. I think if he's a star in the future it's going to be an attitude thing rather than a skill set. That's harder to read than what you see with the eye. He was an exceptional cricketer and probably could have ended up playing international cricket. Probably has a really strong competitive streak and self belief that makes him attractive in interviews and scope.

Of the three we seem to fancy at that pick Imo he’s clearly the difference maker.

 

[Yawkey way]

He might.

But you can trade back 3 picks and still grab him if he is your man

Sometimes if that’s your guy you have to just pull the trigger, getting too cute can end in tears.

 

[stavro#4]

DeMattia is much more of a risky option IMO. He's real boom bust. I think if he's a star in the future it's going to be an attitude thing rather than a skill set. That's harder to read than what you see with the eye. He was an exceptional cricketer and probably could have ended up playing international cricket. Probably has a really strong competitive streak and self belief that makes him attractive in interviews and scope.

And I have no issues with the person.

My issue is the value of pick 13.

If Wilson DeMattia and Edwards are at this pick.

Then we have suitors to trade back and probably still grab DeMattia.

Adelaide at 14 and North at 15 are apparently massive fans of Wilson.

Both have additional first rounders after these picks before our 21.

Ripe for a trade. We can still land DeMattia and get something extra.

 

[gringo2011]

Of the three we seem to fancy at that pick Imo he’s clearly the difference maker.

Not to me. I was a fan at first but gone off him. Really think Edwards will be the pick of them around our first. Wilson looks the type we like and has some real tricks. He sort of in-between as a riskier type but high ceiling if it all goes to plan.

 

[Yawkey way]

Not to me. I was a fan at first but gone off him. Really think Edwards will be the pick of them around our first. Wilson looks the type we like and has some real tricks. He sort of in-between as a riskier type but high ceiling if it all goes to plan.

I guess we’ll see in the years to come, this is like a cup sweep everyone has a horse and we’re waiting for the horses to jump

 

[bergholt]

I haven't followed this at all but just watched some Wilson highlights - isn't he just a Darcy Tucker

13

Darcy Tucker

Age

28

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.9

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.3

5star

MG

239.7

4star

D

14.0

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.3

4star

MG

240.5

4star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.8

5star

MG

234.8

4star

clone?

 

[stavro#4]

Someone share

 

[hayes]

Not overly fussed with who we draft with mid first round picks, all I’ll say is the only things we need are SPEED and SKILL. Please don’t go tall.

 

[11men1cup]

Not overly fussed with who we draft with mid first round picks, all I’ll say is the only things we need are SPEED and SKILL. Please don’t go tall.

Sam Alabakis, welcome to the saints!

On Pixel 7 Pro using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Yawkey way]

Not to me. I was a fan at first but gone off him. Really think Edwards will be the pick of them around our first. Wilson looks the type we like and has some real tricks. He sort of in-between as a riskier type but high ceiling if it all goes to plan.

I like Edwards and personally I don’t think any of them will be busts at afl level. It’s easy to see why north are interested in all three and are hot for Wilson just look at the young mids they have and what they will add before Wilson in this draft.

 

[SaintBenny]

That website is terrible.

I've given up trying to read anything from it.

 

[beside the seaside]

I've got a fair bit of faith in our recruiters after our recent drafting. The one that really stands out is Nasiah, an absolutely brilliant pick who in hindsight should have gone a lot higher.

Here's hoping we can unearth a future gun tonight. We have some handy picks. Always an exciting time.

From my personal highlight viewing, the one I like the look of is Edwards.

 

[SaintBenny]

I've got a fair bit of faith in our recruiters after our recent drafting. The one that really stands out is Nasiah, an absolutely brilliant pick who in hindsight should have gone a lot higher.

Here's hoping we can unearth a future gun tonight. We have some handy picks. Always an exciting time.

From my personal highlight viewing, the one I like the look of is Edwards.

Absolutely agree, I really wasn't a fan of that pick, thought he was going to take years to even be relevant. But they saw something, and nailed it.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Oh, fragile ego hurt little fella?

Like clockwork every year. His little mate who cuts his own hair gets questioned and he comes out swinging!

 

[The Boar]

I've got a fair bit of faith in our recruiters after our recent drafting. The one that really stands out is Nasiah, an absolutely brilliant pick who in hindsight should have gone a lot higher.

Here's hoping we can unearth a future gun tonight. We have some handy picks. Always an exciting time.

From my personal highlight viewing, the one I like the look of is Edwards.

Absolutely agree, I really wasn't a fan of that pick, thought he was going to take years to even be relevant. But they saw something, and nailed it.

Good points, important to remember that we all know sweet FA with these players and selections. A lot here, myself included, didn't want NAS at the time and we were wrong!

St Kilda have a full-time team that trawls through games footage, testing results, interviews, character references-- mountains and mountains of data to come to a decision like NAS.

We watch a 4 minute video and make a snap decision (which I love!) Have some faith in the team and let Toce do his thing.



That said- my snap decision is Wilson/Edwards/Tholstrup in that order!

 

[Miha]

I've got a fair bit of faith in our recruiters after our recent drafting. The one that really stands out is Nasiah, an absolutely brilliant pick who in hindsight should have gone a lot higher.

Here's hoping we can unearth a future gun tonight. We have some handy picks. Always an exciting time.

From my personal highlight viewing, the one I like the look of is Edwards.

And plenty complained about picking Nas

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

A Captain Obvious reminder that all these kids aren't the finished product.

While we all may have our preferred options (based on 2 mins of footage for most of us), let's not go bananas if Toce selects someone who's highlights aren't as spectacular as someone else's. Let's not forget that our recruiting team isn't making their decisions on a snippet of YouTube footage... they've watched these guys play since they were 15.

Two years ago there were melts over a skinny indigenous kid being chosen ahead of the popular local kid. "He won't be ready for 4 years". "Hates contact". "Can't win his own ball".

Now he's one of our favorites.

It goes without saying but how exciting is it that by about 10pm tonight there'll be two 18 year old kids wearing Red White and Black whose dreams have just come true.

 

[stavro#4]

That website is terrible.

I've given up trying to read anything from it.

Guys. I told you how to read it no issues.

Go to the article on your iPhone.

Click on your web address browser and click on “aA”


Then select the option “show reader”


Removes all the ad herpies with no issues.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Edwards
Stevens
Zakostelsky