List Mgmt. 2023 Draft/Trade/FA thread

[Scythe]

Seems a good time to pin this:


OOC players:

• Michael Hibberd (retired)
• Deakyn Smith (delisted)
• Andy Moniz-Wakefield
• Jake Melksham (delisted, will be re-drafted as a rookie)
• Luke Dunstan (retired)
• James Jordon (signed with Sydney as a Free Agent)
• Kye Turner (delisted)

Traded out:

• James Harmes (Bulldogs)
• Brodie Grundy (Sydney)

Traded in:

• Tom Fullarton (Brisbane)
• Jack Billings (St Kilda)
• Shane McAdam (Adelaide)

Drafted:

• Caleb Windsor (Pick 7)
• Koltyn Tholstrup (Pick 13)
• Kynan Brown (Rookie)

 

[Saab NLAW]

Not that it really affects compo, but the fact that McKay has played in eight wins for his entire career is wild.

Holy crap, that's insane

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Pick 3 for Frawley was fine IMO. First round pick for an AA (premiership) player who was one of the best in a struggling side with very little talent.

McKay is potato, from memory North have a lot more talent that the Dees did back then.

Yeah, youve convinced me, I'm happy to blame dodgy Laura. Absolute cheating scum.

 

[Alpine Lodger]

The fact that North receive pick 3 for 25 year old McKay who will be on 800k a year with Essendon when Hawthorn received only pick 19 for a 26 year old Lance Franklin who had just been offered a $10 million contract over 9 years with the Swans. Tells you everything you need to know with what's wrong with Free Agency compensation.

 

[I Love Lamb]

Future third for Harmes

Knew that fella Lamb was gearing up for some big trades

 

[LarryDavidNeitz]

Jay Clark reporting that West Coast want to keep 1 and pick Reid unless North offer 2 and 3 (which is possible but could also easily be posturing to get the best possible trade for pick 1).

More interesting is the suggestion that North want McKercher 2 and Duursma 3, then Watson expected to go either 4 or 5 followed by Sanders. Presumably someone bids on Walter and GC match in the top 5.

Do we take Curtin in that scenario?

 

[I Love Lamb]

Jay Clark reporting that West Coast want to keep 1 and pick Reid unless North offer 2 and 3 (which is possible but could also easily be posturing to get the best possible trade for pick 1).

More interesting is the suggestion that North want McKercher 2 and Duursma 3, then Watson expected to go either 4 or 5 followed by Sanders. Presumably someone bids on Walter and GC match in the top 5.

Do we take Curtin in that scenario?

Why would North take even more midfielders?

What they should be looking to do is trade down for O Sullivan or Caddy if they don’t take Curtin.

They will have top talented mids playing in the 2s while there backline gets slaughtered.

That said would be super happy to take Curtin, kid is a jet.

 

[booshboy]

Jay Clark reporting that West Coast want to keep 1 and pick Reid unless North offer 2 and 3 (which is possible but could also easily be posturing to get the best possible trade for pick 1).

More interesting is the suggestion that North want McKercher 2 and Duursma 3, then Watson expected to go either 4 or 5 followed by Sanders. Presumably someone bids on Walter and GC match in the top 5.

Do we take Curtin in that scenario?

Surely.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Future third for Harmes

Knew that fella Lamb was gearing up for some big trades

Reamed I tells ya.

 

[Lord Nev]

 

[Deemanding]

Jay Clark reporting that West Coast want to keep 1 and pick Reid unless North offer 2 and 3 (which is possible but could also easily be posturing to get the best possible trade for pick 1).

More interesting is the suggestion that North want McKercher 2 and Duursma 3, then Watson expected to go either 4 or 5 followed by Sanders. Presumably someone bids on Walter and GC match in the top 5.

Do we take Curtin in that scenario?

If that's how it plays out then yes. He's definitely in the top 6 and suits a need.

Worst outcome for us is that Watson falls to 6.

 

[Demon 16]

More interesting is the suggestion that North want McKercher 2 and Duursma 3, then Watson expected to go either 4 or 5 followed by Sanders. Presumably someone bids on Walter and GC match in the top 5.

Do we take Curtin in that scenario?

Or trade our pick to WC?

 

[I Love Lamb]

Or trade our pick to WC?

WC have FA capital after they take Reid at 1

 

[Bluelegs]

Future third for Harmes

Knew that fella Lamb was gearing up for some big trades

They're taking 500k off our books that would have been wasted at Casey.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Melbourne is no longer the James Club.

 

[I Love Lamb]

So far we have lost Jordan and Harmes and brought in a pick in the 40s and a pick in the 50s.

Our list is weaker than it was 2 days ago. Hope we turn this around

 

[markm106]

Sound like it’ll be basically getting Harmes money out. And Fullarton in with that pick or thereabouts.

 

[MarcMaverick]

So far we have lost Jordan and Harmes and brought in a pick in the 40s and a pick in the 50s.

Our list is weaker than it was 2 days ago. Hope we turn this around

With Tim Lamb, unlikely.

 

[Crusty Demon]

So far we have lost Jordan and Harmes and brought in a pick in the 40s and a pick in the 50s.

Our list is weaker than it was 2 days ago. Hope we turn this around

Lost a little depth. Both weren't the difference in winning a future flag. Getting their $$ off the books is most likely a win.

 

[Alpine Lodger]

So far we have lost Jordan and Harmes and brought in a pick in the 40s and a pick in the 50s.

Our list is weaker than it was 2 days ago. Hope we turn this around

I wouldnt say that. In my opinion we just unloaded our two worst ball users on our list in Jordon and Harmes. And opened up an opportunity for Blake Howes, who I think offers far more upside then either of those 2 imho.

 

[I Love Lamb]

Lost a little depth. Both weren't the difference in winning a future flag. Getting their $$ off the books is most likely a win.

Only a win if we have somewhere to spend it. Having it sit in the bank isn’t going to win us any flags.

Feels like we are just being picked away at a bit at the moment for **** all return.

 

[Bluelegs]

Only a win if we have somewhere to spend it. Having it sit in the bank isn’t going to win us any flags.

Feels like we are just being picked away at a bit at the moment for * all return.

You can't just save the money and do nothing with it. You just restructure someone elses deal to pay them a bit more earlier and use that extra cap space later.

 

[mrmonkey]

Melbourne is no longer the James Club.

We still have a few Christians

 

[I Love Lamb]

You can't just save the money and do nothing with it. You just restructure someone elses deal to pay them a bit more earlier and use that extra cap space later.

Not sure how that helps us in 2024, in our window.

 

[MarcMaverick]

We still have a few Christians

The only ones in the AFL, ironically playing for the Demons.

 

[Bluelegs]

Not sure how that helps us in 2024, in our window.

Not sure how holding onto list cloggers who are rotting away at Casey helps us next year either.