List Mgmt. 2023 Draft/Trade/FA thread

[Scythe]

Seems a good time to pin this:


OOC players:

• Michael Hibberd (retired)
• Deakyn Smith (delisted)
• Andy Moniz-Wakefield
• Jake Melksham (delisted, will be re-drafted as a rookie)
• Luke Dunstan (retired)
• James Jordon (signed with Sydney as a Free Agent)
• Kye Turner (delisted)

Traded out:

• James Harmes (Bulldogs)
• Brodie Grundy (Sydney)

Traded in:

• Tom Fullarton (Brisbane)
• Jack Billings (St Kilda)
• Shane McAdam (Adelaide)

Drafted:

• Caleb Windsor (Pick 7)
• Koltyn Tholstrup (Pick 13)
• Kynan Brown (Rookie)

 

[Johnny Karate]

Assume seeing as the risk is on us it's 13 for their future 1st and something else

I reckon it’s more likely to be 25 and 33 they won’t need much more to get Esava and BZT.

 

[Lord Nev]

 

[Topkent]

Yeah fair that does make more sense. Wonder if we are looking to move that future first on with 13 then for a top 10 picks that's very us

 

[Johnny Karate]

I reckon it’s more likely to be 25 and 33 they won’t need much more to get Esava and BZT.

Would be good if we can then package Port’s 2024 R1 and 13 for something though.

 

[Johnny Karate]

Assuming North gets Gold Coast’s pick 5, the bidding war probably transfers to this. Although once FS/compensation/Academy picks are done, their pick 7 probably becomes pick 11 or some shit.

 

[booshboy]

Jordan off to Sydney, wonder if they'd have the cap space to pay him enough for us to trigger banding 1 compo and we give them Grundy for a token pick.

 

[dazzledavey36]

JJ off to Sydney

 

[dazzledavey36]

Jordan off to Sydney, wonder if they'd have the cap space to pay him enough for us to trigger banding 1 compo and we give them Grundy for a token pick.

Haha they're not paying Jordon 800k per year mate.

Late 2nd To early 3rd round pick.

 

[Scythe]

JJ off to Sydney

 

[booshboy]

Haha they're not paying Jordon 800k per year mate.

Late 2nd To early 3rd round pick.

isnt it basically the same shit Essendon and St Kilda are doing with Gresham and Shiel?

 

[Bluelegs]

Haha they're not paying Jordon 800k per year mate.

Late 2nd To early 3rd round pick.

Will be after our 2nd rounder or after our 3rd rounder as a free agent. So 34 or 53

 

[Johnny Karate]

It’s funny, I’m happy that he’s gone but he’s the type of player that could go on to have a good career at the Swans. Blokes like Rhyce Shaw

Rhyce Shaw

Age

44

Ht

182cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.8

4star

K

12.0

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

313.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

1.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.8

3star

, Ted Richards

Ted Richards

Age

42

Ht

193cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.6

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.7

4star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

153.4

2star

No current season stats available

D

5.8

2star

K

3.2

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

0.8

3star

etc looked like absolute potatoes before finding a role in the red and white.

 

[Topkent]

It’s funny, I’m happy that he’s gone but he’s the type of player that could go on to have a good career at the Swans. Blokes like Rhyce Shaw, Ted Richards etc looked like absolute potatoes before finding a role in the red and white.

They were both better than spud Jordan. Hell be delisted within a couple yrs

 

[Scythe]

It’s funny, I’m happy that he’s gone but he’s the type of player that could go on to have a good career at the Swans. Blokes like Rhyce Shaw, Ted Richards etc looked like absolute potatoes before finding a role in the red and white.

I just can't see it with him. What are his strengths? He's slow, a poor kick, has no core strength and can't break a tackle, and takes forever to make decisions.

Even with a good development program around him, I just don't see him having the traits to ever be more than a good VFL player.

 

[Demon 16]

Yeah fair that does make more sense. Wonder if we are looking to move that future first on with 13 then for a top 10 picks that's very us

Cal Twomey said earlier that he thinks the Bulldogs will end up getting GCs pick 4 by using 10 and 17, then Melbourne will come for pick 10.

That would be a good result, although shits me that pick 10 will be 15-16 in reality.

 

[Bluelegs]

It’s funny, I’m happy that he’s gone but he’s the type of player that could go on to have a good career at the Swans. Blokes like Rhyce Shaw, Ted Richards etc looked like absolute potatoes before finding a role in the red and white.

We basically played him out of position his entire time with us. When he was played in the middle he was behind a bunch of other inside mids that he effectively became a receiver. If Sydney play him as an inside mid he should do okay.

 

[Topkent]

I just can't see it with him. What are his strengths? He's slow, a poor kick, has no core strength and can't break a tackle, and takes forever to make decisions.

Even with a good devlopment program around him, I just don't see him having the traits to ever be more than a good VFL player.

Guess you could say he's disciplined. Could play as the defensive mid in a midfield with more attacking players and a rule he's not allowed to kick

 

[Johnny Karate]

I just can't see it with him. What are his strengths? He's slow, a poor kick, has no core strength and can't break a tackle, and takes forever to make decisions.

Even with a good devlopment program around him, I just don't see him having the traits to ever be more than a good VFL player.

I’m happy to see him go for the reasons you outlined above. He’s a worse version of the many inside mids that we have on the list.

Maybe Sydney have a particular role in mind for him? They do seem short on inside/defensive mids. Maybe he only plays particular games as a tagger or defensive forward? They may see him as a defensive forward? Or an upgrade on Ryan Clarke who played a solid role for them in their charge to the Granny last year?

He could well end up delisted but if I were to back any club to get a decent tune out of him, it would be Sydney.

 

[Lord Nev]

Not the score involvement king!

 

[Johnny Karate]

We’re not linked to him and the Saints would probably want a tad more than our pick 25 but I’d take Dougal Howard

20

Dougal Howard

Age

29

Ht

199cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.9

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

176.2

3star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.7

4star

T

0.6

1star

MG

171.9

3star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.8

5star

MG

133.8

3star

as a Tomlinson upgrade if we could strike a decent deal.

 

[Macka1203]

how are casey going to go next year without Jordon, Harmes and Dunstan rocking up for 35 and a goal every week

 

[Johnny Karate]

how are casey going to go next year without Jordon, Harmes and Dunstan rocking up for 35 and a goal every week

That’s ok because they’ll have the 3 headed monster of Schache, T McDonald and BBB up forward with Oliver and Jeffo on the ball.

 

[stEdy]

I hope we don't pick up VFL level players for the sake of it, but you really don't want your VFL team getting trounced each week and we look like we will lose a lot of depth this year.

It's a balancing act that you need to get right for the development of your young guys

 

[00Stinger]

They were both better than spud Jordan. Hell be delisted within a couple yrs

Rhyce Shaw yes, Ted Richards no

But I agree I could see him being delisted in 24 months

 

[Topkent]

Rhyce Shaw yes, Ted Richards no

But I agree I could see him being delisted in 24 months

Think Ted Richards was pretty injury prone at the dons.