Analysis 2023 Draft Watch

[WalshistheGOAT]

Don’t think we need another pure small forward. Motlop, Owies and Durdin should be plenty.

I would like a roaming third tall target with good hands who is good on the lead. Someone in the style of Henry/Johnson/George/Fritsch, who will not get in Harry or Charlie’s way but will cause problems on a 3rd defender.

Also, more creative half forwards who will find the ball 15+ times a game and are comfortable finding a target going into the forward 50. Cuningham will be one if he remains fit but let’s see how he goes. Fisher at his best is good enough but some competition for spots would be nice. We have lacked an elite talent at half forward for a long time.

Martin is somewhere in between both of these types. I hope he stays fit.

Duursma Caddy and Moir are the closest thing to a third tall in the draft but all play very differently.

- Duursma pretty similar to a mix of Fritsch and Rozee at his best. Has a good step, good speed and really good in the air. Been played more as a mid this year which hasn't done much for his value imo, I liked him as a 3rd option down forward far more. Good piercing kick and can create seperation as a fwd.

- Caddy is basically like Charlie but a bit more agile and better below his knees. Not as good in the air and don't think he has Charlies tank either but he's a pretty close comparison. Can launch the ball from 60 too.

- Moir plays a bit like Membrey imo but up until todays game vs Country I would have said he's turned into one of the biggest squibs in the draft. Seemed completely allergic to contact and had no pace to find seperation. Coaches mentioned he'd been battling a hip issue during the year. Today he showed much more class. Flew for marks, kicked well on both feet and has a good step, set up a few goals for his team.


- Wilson is the best 'creative half forward' in the draft in regards to creating scoring opportunities for teammates up the field. Best runner in the draft in terms of consistent powerful run, good kick and can take a mark inside 50. I see him as a forward half version of Jack Crisp, though could just as likely end up playing half back like Crisp did to start with.

- Callinan and Tholstrup are probably in that next bracket of creative half forwards ur after. Seem to get to good spots up the ground, kick well inside 50 and have a knack for scoring goals. Don't know if I could say much more about them... Don't think they'll be game changers but also wouldn't say no to either.



End of the day though, Watson gives you what all of these players do. He's the best pressure forward, the best goal kicker, the best '3rd option' and the best playmaker up the field. He's a freak and does it all, he's just very small.

 

[The Return of the Paf]

Don’t think we need another pure small forward. Motlop, Owies and Durdin should be plenty.

I would like a roaming third tall target with good hands who is good on the lead. Someone in the style of Henry/Johnson/George/Fritsch, who will not get in Harry or Charlie’s way but will cause problems on a 3rd defender.

Also, more creative half forwards who will find the ball 15+ times a game and are comfortable finding a target going into the forward 50. Cuningham will be one if he remains fit but let’s see how he goes. Fisher at his best is good enough but some competition for spots would be nice. We have lacked an elite talent at half forward for a long time.

Martin is somewhere in between both of these types. I hope he stays fit.

Yep!

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Duursma Caddy and Moir are the closest thing to a third tall in the draft but all play very differently.

- Duursma pretty similar to a mix of Fritsch and Rozee at his best. Has a good step, good speed and really good in the air. Been played more as a mid this year which hasn't done much for his value imo, I liked him as a 3rd option down forward far more. Good piercing kick and can create seperation as a fwd.

- Caddy is basically like Charlie but a bit more agile and better below his knees. Not as good in the air and don't think he has Charlies tank either but he's a pretty close comparison. Can launch the ball from 60 too.

- Moir plays a bit like Membrey imo but up until todays game vs Country I would have said he's turned into one of the biggest squibs in the draft. Seemed completely allergic to contact and had no pace to find seperation. Coaches mentioned he'd been battling a hip issue during the year. Today he showed much more class. Flew for marks, kicked well on both feet and has a good step, set up a few goals for his team.


- Wilson is the best 'creative half forward' in the draft in regards to creating scoring opportunities for teammates up the field. Best runner in the draft in terms of consistent powerful run, good kick and can take a mark inside 50. I see him as a forward half version of Jack Crisp, though could just as likely end up playing half back like Crisp did to start with.

- Callinan and Tholstrup are probably in that next bracket of creative half forwards ur after. Seem to get to good spots up the ground, kick well inside 50 and have a knack for scoring goals. Don't know if I could say much more about them... Don't think they'll be game changers but also wouldn't say no to either.



End of the day though, Watson gives you what all of these players do. He's the best pressure forward, the best goal kicker, the best '3rd option' and the best playmaker up the field. He's a freak and does it all, he's just very small.

Love your knowledge on the kids this year mate.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

If we go down the path of picking up a young mid - Which id assume would be because Watson, Caddy and Duursma are off the table I really do like this kid.

Could see Walsh Cerra and Mckercher forming a very good trio of link up mids together who can all spread well and chain forward. If we could add Wilson too on the outside and still somehow address our need for options up fwd via FA or trade I'd be ecstatic.

Mckercher is similar to Walsh in that he just doesn't have a bad game. Needs to get a right peg though.

 

[bmaurizio]

Let’s see how the last 11 games pan out, reckon we’ll end up within pick range of 6 to 8, should better performance continue after the bye.
Hopefully a Duursma, Caddy, Moir , or if it’s a midfielder prefer Wilson could still be available.
It would be a great outcome.

 

[DangerousD]

Starting to think this draft is a little over rated as a group. Yes, I have been guilty too. Some excellent prospects, but not sure about wall to wall superstars anymore.

Isn’t this what happens every year?

 

[DangerousD]

Tend to agree.....

Harley Reid first 2 goals were over rated, left in the goal square for a “joe the goose” followed by a very dubious free kick shortly after....

Man size body now playing against kids.... will be very interesting to see how he progresses.

Wasn’t this the knock on Charlie in his draft year?

I remember people were unsure of his best position and that he was more developed than the other players.

 

[DangerousD]

Who’s the stand out key forward this year?

Will any club do a GWS to trade up to not take the best kid in the draft?

 

[DangerousD]

Duursma Caddy and Moir are the closest thing to a third tall in the draft but all play very differently.

- Duursma pretty similar to a mix of Fritsch and Rozee at his best. Has a good step, good speed and really good in the air. Been played more as a mid this year which hasn't done much for his value imo, I liked him as a 3rd option down forward far more. Good piercing kick and can create seperation as a fwd.

- Caddy is basically like Charlie but a bit more agile and better below his knees. Not as good in the air and don't think he has Charlies tank either but he's a pretty close comparison. Can launch the ball from 60 too.

- Moir plays a bit like Membrey imo but up until todays game vs Country I would have said he's turned into one of the biggest squibs in the draft. Seemed completely allergic to contact and had no pace to find seperation. Coaches mentioned he'd been battling a hip issue during the year. Today he showed much more class. Flew for marks, kicked well on both feet and has a good step, set up a few goals for his team.


- Wilson is the best 'creative half forward' in the draft in regards to creating scoring opportunities for teammates up the field. Best runner in the draft in terms of consistent powerful run, good kick and can take a mark inside 50. I see him as a forward half version of Jack Crisp, though could just as likely end up playing half back like Crisp did to start with.

- Callinan and Tholstrup are probably in that next bracket of creative half forwards ur after. Seem to get to good spots up the ground, kick well inside 50 and have a knack for scoring goals. Don't know if I could say much more about them... Don't think they'll be game changers but also wouldn't say no to either.



End of the day though, Watson gives you what all of these players do. He's the best pressure forward, the best goal kicker, the best '3rd option' and the best playmaker up the field. He's a freak and does it all, he's just very small.

Wilson/Watson isn’t he the 169cm player?

How much do you think his height will put off recruiters?

I’m very sceptical of how a guy so small adapts to AFL football, a lot of his weapons are diminished in seniors.

I have always found Daniel for the Bulldogs as being exposed at AFL level and his junior numbers were great.

Not saying small blokes won’t make it but i would be worried if using a top 8 pick.

Who was the last guy that small to go Hugh in the draft and do well?

 

[bmaurizio]

Yup Nick Watson 170cm , excellent speed and smart user of the ball weaves magic & beautiful precise kick.
We could do with Caleb Daniels type.
Another excellent prospect not as highly rated as Nick, is Nathan Philactides taller at 181cm, provides scintillating speed and superb user ball too.
All abilities and skills we desperately need to catch up to the better teams

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Who’s the stand out key forward this year?

Will any club do a GWS to trade up to not take the best kid in the draft?

Gold Coast Academy's Jed Walter by all reports

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Wilson/Watson isn’t he the 169cm player?

How much do you think his height will put off recruiters?

I’m very sceptical of how a guy so small adapts to AFL football, a lot of his weapons are diminished in seniors.

I have always found Daniel for the Bulldogs as being exposed at AFL level and his junior numbers were great.

Not saying small blokes won’t make it but i would be worried if using a top 8 pick.

Who was the last guy that small to go Hugh in the draft and do well?

Kozi Pickett is the closest comparison at 172cm. Caleb Daniel differs in that he needs to play through the middle or down back as a ball user to be effective. That means he has to defend and be a part of the defensive zone which can result in him being on a tall fwd or Petracca etc on occasion... When that happens its game over for him.

As a small forward though Watson and Pickett etc don't have to worry about that at all. Defenders worry about them but in terms of they themselves defending, the only thing a small forward is expected to do is pressure and lock the ball in by causing turnovers.

In Watson's case I think it actually gives him an advantage as he's simply freakishly agile and fast. Defenders struggle to stay with him through traffic and in open field play given his speed. Then add to that they also have to worry about tackles slipping high (Which btw he does plenty, Ginnivan is one of his favourite players) it becomes a nightmare match up for most.

 

[thebluenewdeal]

Don’t think we need another pure small forward. Motlop, Owies and Durdin should be plenty.

I would like a roaming third tall target with good hands who is good on the lead. Someone in the style of Henry/Johnson/George/Fritsch, who will not get in Harry or Charlie’s way but will cause problems on a 3rd defender.

Also, more creative half forwards who will find the ball 15+ times a game and are comfortable finding a target going into the forward 50. Cuningham will be one if he remains fit but let’s see how he goes. Fisher at his best is good enough but some competition for spots would be nice. We have lacked an elite talent at half forward for a long time.

Martin is somewhere in between both of these types. I hope he stays fit.

We need to draft a Martin clone for when he gets injured. He’s our very own version of Gary Rohan.. When he plays we are just better

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

We need to draft a Martin clone for when he gets injured. He’s our very own version of Gary Rohan.. When he plays we are just better

Moir is the closest to Martin in the draft but not convinced on his commitment and physicality. Just seems to avoid big contests and long leads up the ground, seems a bit of a squib despite being capable of the brilliant.

 

[bmaurizio]

Will Lorenz will be a quality midfield option, at 186cm /70kg solid frame , has good footy IQ , poise & smart user, still a school boy, but should evolve into quality footballer, with correct development & mentoring. Top 20 option at this stage still early but has show good glimpses

 

[Sin City]

Will Lorenz will be a quality midfield option, at 186cm /70kg solid frame , has good footy IQ , poise & smart user, still a school boy, but should evolve into quality footballer, with correct development & mentoring. Top 20 option at this stage still early but has show good glimpses

He’s been on the radar for a long time now but he just strikes me as one of those guys that doesn’t have a position. Where do you think his best position is? Not a big contested ball winner but doesn’t have the line breaking ability of a half back or the gut running of a wingman either.

 

[ferrisb]

Wasn’t this the knock on Charlie in his draft year?

I remember people were unsure of his best position and that he was more developed than the other players.

He had some injuries and he was a 'tweener'.

Not big enough to be a key forward, not proven enough as a big midfielder.

An x-factor type with amazing highlight reel, but was a possible boom/bust type. I think was also seen as an athlete first, footballer 2nd.

EDIT: his leap, pack crashing and strong marking was never in doubt though

 

[bmaurizio]

He’s been on the radar for a long time now but he just strikes me as one of those guys that doesn’t have a position. Where do you think his best position is? Not a big contested ball winner but doesn’t have the line breaking ability of a half back or the gut running of a wingman either.

Agree with you, Will isn't a powerhouse mid nor forward as Caddy , but he's gifted with good agility, laser accurate left leg , and loves to kick a goal. I'd reckon his position may end up midfield or just forward of it.
Again very early days, hopefully he can produce more of the earlier glimpses, could be an excellent snare about the 10-18 pick range.

 

[Sector 7G]

If we go down the path of picking up a young mid - Which id assume would be because Watson, Caddy and Duursma are off the table I really do like this kid.

Could see Walsh Cerra and Mckercher forming a very good trio of link up mids together who can all spread well and chain forward. If we could add Wilson too on the outside and still somehow address our need for options up fwd via FA or trade I'd be ecstatic.

Mckercher is similar to Walsh in that he just doesn't have a bad game. Needs to get a right peg though.

Only one game but it seemed like a lot of possession without much impact.

 

[thebluenewdeal]

More flankers, half forwards and intercepting types. Keep building around the spine.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Only one game but it seemed like a lot of possession without much impact.

Not many tend to be in the early games of the champs. Teams aren't playing with any system or familiarity with their teammates. You look out for the ability to accumulate, use it cleanly and their physical capabilities like breaking tackles, leg speed, running power around the ground. Can't really expect too much more from them.

But I do understand what you mean, not much screams superstar talent about Mckercher, he's more ur super consistent 8/10 every game type where as someone like Duursma is more the fluctuates between 3/10 and 10/10 kind of player. Probably more brilliance in his game but equally goes missing for huge periods of games.

 

[dylan_mike1]

Wilson/Watson isn’t he the 169cm player?

How much do you think his height will put off recruiters?

I’m very sceptical of how a guy so small adapts to AFL football, a lot of his weapons are diminished in seniors.

I have always found Daniel for the Bulldogs as being exposed at AFL level and his junior numbers were great.

Not saying small blokes won’t make it but i would be worried if using a top 8 pick.

Who was the last guy that small to go Hugh in the draft and do well?

Daniel is a great AFL player. His height doesn't often get exposed , he has a number of A grade skills, especially his kicking and decision making. Wouldn't surprise me if he makes an all australian list during his career. I personally think he would make any teams best 22.

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[DangerousD]

Daniel is a great AFL player. His height doesn't often get exposed , he has a number of A grade skills, especially his kicking and decision making. Wouldn't surprise me if he makes an all australian list during his career. I personally think he would make any teams best 22.

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My point being with Daniel is that he slipped far in his draft, despite having great U/18 numbers.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Some videos of the SA and VIC C boys I think we'd be having a look at. If Duursma is expected to develop into a mid at the next level I feel like I'd prefer to take Mckercher, but he definitely has some X Factor traits and ability to play forward which Mckercher doesn't.

Credit to Noobermensch on the draft board for making these.

 

[Juice030103]

WalshistheGOAT thanks for keeping us across it all

Keep up the good work